[fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Richard Hipp
Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been
uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html

I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things
were compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled
binaries and let me know if you encounter any problems.

I started a wiki page (
http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To) describing
how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need to be made
for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example, will the
Windows8 build using MSVC-x86 work for everybody, or do I need to redo that
build on (say) Windows7 or perhaps using MinGW?  Does the Mac binary work
on all intel-based Mac systems?  Etc.

I'll send out an official release announcement once a few people have
verified the current binaries.

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Michai Ramakers
On 11 September 2013 16:03, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 I started a wiki page
 (http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To) describing
 how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need to be made
 for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example, ...

Thank you for making this release.
For my information: is WinXP still an 'officially supported' platform?
I realise it's a bit old, but I happen to use fossil on that platform,
occasionally.

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Michai Ramakers m.ramak...@gmail.comwrote:


 For my information: is WinXP still an 'officially supported' platform?
 I realise it's a bit old, but I happen to use fossil on that platform,
 occasionally.


I don't have a WinXP system to test on.  But maybe some of the other
developers do
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote:

 Software can't go unmaintained indefinitely without consequences.


The primary consequence being that people eventually upgrade ;).


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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Michai Ramakers
On 11 September 2013 16:03, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:
 Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been
 uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html

 I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things were
 compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled binaries and
 let me know if you encounter any problems.

slightly related question: is there, or will there be, a
regression-test suite for fossil? (I read about the sqlite testing
method, which is truly amazing.)

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Paolo Bolzoni
Maybe it is time to leave Windows?

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote:

 Software can't go unmaintained indefinitely without consequences.


 The primary consequence being that people eventually upgrade ;).


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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Warren Young

On 9/11/2013 08:59, John Long wrote:

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:49:14AM -0600, Warren Young wrote:

Only 7 months left of MS support: http://goo.gl/dtpQj4


So what?


After the EOL date, XP will quickly start bit rotting.  You can predict 
the near future by looking at the state of Windows 2000 now.


I was a big fan of Win2K, but I wouldn't dream of running it today in 
anything but a test VM.


There's a fair chance it won't even boot on a modern PC, due to lack of 
driver support.


Another fun problem with Win2K now is that if you're in a part of the 
world where DST rules changed in the past few years (e.g. USA) the time 
will be off during part of the year, since the time zone DB isn't being 
updated any more.


Software can't go unmaintained indefinitely without consequences.
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Michai Ramakers m.ramak...@gmail.comwrote:

 slightly related question: is there, or will there be, a
 regression-test suite for fossil? (I read about the sqlite testing
 method, which is truly amazing.)


Fossil's testing infrastructure is not as amazing as sqlite's. For each
release we (normally several of us) run through the following checklist:

http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/test/release-checklist.wiki

that said, most of us can only cover 1 or 2 of the more common platforms.

sqlite's testing infrastructure is somewhat of an anomaly (in a good way,
of course) and _extremely_ difficult to achieve.

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Jan Nijtmans
2013/9/11 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org:
 I don't have a WinXP system to test on.  But maybe some of the other
 developers do

WinXP should work fine, I tested fossil 1.25 or so on it.
And as far as I know there are no fundamental differences
in Windows API usage, so it still should work fine.
(If not, you can file a bug!)

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread John Long
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:49:14AM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
 On 9/11/2013 08:36, Michai Ramakers wrote:
 For my information: is WinXP still an 'officially supported' platform?
 I realise it's a bit old, but I happen to use fossil on that platform,
 occasionally.

There are plenty of people still using XP for various reasons and tasks.

 
 Only 7 months left of MS support: http://goo.gl/dtpQj4
 
 After that, no more security patches.

So what? Maybe XP is safer than any of the NSA-approved Windows versions.
My unpatched firewalled copy has been running for over 10 years without any
issues.

  It's time to be migrating off XP.

If you have to use Windows you may as well use XP.

/jl
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Warren Young

On 9/11/2013 08:36, Michai Ramakers wrote:

For my information: is WinXP still an 'officially supported' platform?
I realise it's a bit old, but I happen to use fossil on that platform,
occasionally.


Only 7 months left of MS support: http://goo.gl/dtpQj4

After that, no more security patches.  It's time to be migrating off XP.
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread djgoku
This worked on Windows 2008 R2 64-bit, Windows 7 32-bit, Mountain Lion 10.8.4 
64-bit.

Jonathan Otuska 

On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been 
 uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html
 
 I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things were 
 compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled binaries and 
 let me know if you encounter any problems.
 
 I started a wiki page 
 (http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To) describing 
 how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need to be made 
 for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example, will the 
 Windows8 build using MSVC-x86 work for everybody, or do I need to redo that 
 build on (say) Windows7 or perhaps using MinGW?  Does the Mac binary work on 
 all intel-based Mac systems?  Etc.
 
 I'll send out an official release announcement once a few people have 
 verified the current binaries.
 
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Michai Ramakers
On 11 September 2013 16:36, Michai Ramakers m.ramak...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 11 September 2013 16:03, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 I started a wiki page
 (http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To) describing
 how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need to be made
 for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example, ...

 Thank you for making this release.
 For my information: is WinXP still an 'officially supported' platform?
 I realise it's a bit old, but I happen to use fossil on that platform,
 occasionally.

 Michai
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread John Long
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 09:08:05AM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
 On 9/11/2013 08:59, John Long wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:49:14AM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
 Only 7 months left of MS support: http://goo.gl/dtpQj4
 
 So what?
 
 After the EOL date, XP will quickly start bit rotting.

Given my copy is about 13 years old and still perfectly usable and has been
running as-installed with exactly two KBs applied I really don't know what
difference it makes if it's EOLd or not. Auto-update is the first thing that
gets turned off on any Winstall I've ever done. There's a long list after that.

 Another fun problem with Win2K now is that if you're in a part of
 the world where DST rules changed in the past few years (e.g. USA)
 the time will be off during part of the year, since the time zone DB
 isn't being updated any more.

But we're not talking about Win2K which had a much shorter shelf life and was
obsolete a lot faster than XP was. Everything I need XP for (VPN and some
apps for work), and everything a few million other people need it for
already works.

 Software can't go unmaintained indefinitely without consequences.

Each piece of software has an independent and unknown lifetime and in this
case for many if not most users the consequences of going without
maintenance are preferable to throwing money down the toilet on a crappier,
more bloated version. Most people are either going to get something newer
against their will if they buy a new PC or will stay with what they have
until their hardware catches on fire.

Bottom line is a lot of people are using XP and will not upgrade and it is
really not appropriate for anybody to lecture them about doing it.

/jl

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Samuel Debionne
Thank you for this release.
The manifest and manifest.uuid is missing from the source tarball.
Samuel


Le 11/09/2013 16:03, Richard Hipp a écrit :
 Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been
 uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html
 
 I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things
 were compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled
 binaries and let me know if you encounter any problems.
 
 I started a wiki page
 (http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To)
 describing how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments
 need to be made for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For
 example, will the Windows8 build using MSVC-x86 work for everybody, or
 do I need to redo that build on (say) Windows7 or perhaps using MinGW? 
 Does the Mac binary work on all intel-based Mac systems?  Etc.
 
 I'll send out an official release announcement once a few people have
 verified the current binaries.
 
 -- 
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 d...@sqlite.org mailto:d...@sqlite.org
 
 
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Samuel Debionne 
samuel.debio...@ujf-grenoble.fr wrote:

 The manifest and manifest.uuid is missing from the source tarball.


Thanks for the report.  This should be fixed now.  (Please let me know if
you find otherwise.)  I have also updated to release-build wiki with
correct procedures that include manifest and manifest.uuid in the tarball.

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread djgoku
I didn't know there was an official testing document, I just dropped the exe in 
place and ran: fossil server file.fossil

I mostly just use fossil for the wiki which it looked fine so just to clarify I 
just glanced over the Wiki portion of Fossil and nothing else.

Jonathan Otsuka
On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:00 AM, djg...@gmail.com wrote:

 This worked on Windows 2008 R2 64-bit, Windows 7 32-bit, Mountain Lion 10.8.4 
 64-bit.
 
 Jonathan Otuska 
 
 On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:
 
 Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been 
 uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html
 
 I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things were 
 compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled binaries and 
 let me know if you encounter any problems.
 
 I started a wiki page 
 (http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To) describing 
 how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need to be made 
 for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example, will the 
 Windows8 build using MSVC-x86 work for everybody, or do I need to redo that 
 build on (say) Windows7 or perhaps using MinGW?  Does the Mac binary work on 
 all intel-based Mac systems?  Etc.
 
 I'll send out an official release announcement once a few people have 
 verified the current binaries.
 
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread James Turner
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:52:44AM -0500, djg...@gmail.com wrote:
 I didn't know there was an official testing document, I just dropped the exe 
 in place and ran: fossil server file.fossil
 
 I mostly just use fossil for the wiki which it looked fine so just to clarify 
 I just glanced over the Wiki portion of Fossil and nothing else.
 
 Jonathan Otsuka

Fossil has tons of regressions tests. Download the source, tclsh
/path/to/fossil/source/test/tester.tcl /path/to/fossil

 On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:00 AM, djg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  This worked on Windows 2008 R2 64-bit, Windows 7 32-bit, Mountain Lion 
  10.8.4 64-bit.
  
  Jonathan Otuska 
  
  On Sep 11, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:
  
  Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been 
  uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html
  
  I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things 
  were compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled 
  binaries and let me know if you encounter any problems.
  
  I started a wiki page 
  (http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To) 
  describing how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need 
  to be made for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example, 
  will the Windows8 build using MSVC-x86 work for everybody, or do I need to 
  redo that build on (say) Windows7 or perhaps using MinGW?  Does the Mac 
  binary work on all intel-based Mac systems?  Etc.
  
  I'll send out an official release announcement once a few people have 
  verified the current binaries.
  
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Hakki Dogusan

Hi,

11-09-2013 17:03 tarihinde, Richard Hipp yazdı:

Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been
uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html

I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things
were compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled
binaries and let me know if you encounter any problems.

I started a wiki page (
http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To) describing
how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need to be made
for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example, will the
Windows8 build using MSVC-x86 work for everybody, or do I need to redo that
build on (say) Windows7 or perhaps using MinGW?  Does the Mac binary work
on all intel-based Mac systems?  Etc.

I'll send out an official release announcement once a few people have
verified the current binaries.




I'm getting fossil.exe is not a valid Win32 application error in WinXP.


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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Hakki Dogusan

Hi,

11-09-2013 18:40 tarihinde, Hakki Dogusan yazdı:

Hi,

11-09-2013 17:03 tarihinde, Richard Hipp yazdı:

Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been
uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html
[snip]


I'm getting fossil.exe is not a valid Win32 application error in WinXP.




DependencyWalker gives following:

Error: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing 
export function in an implicitly dependent module.


Missing functions in KERNEL32.EXE:
CompareStringEx
FlsAlloc/Free/GetValue/SetValue
GetTickCount64
LCMapStringEx


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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Matt Welland
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been
 uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html

 I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things
 were compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled
 binaries and let me know if you encounter any problems.

 I started a wiki page (
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To)
 describing how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need
 to be made for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example,
 will the Windows8 build using MSVC-x86 work for everybody, or do I need to
 redo that build on (say) Windows7 or perhaps using MinGW?  Does the Mac
 binary work on all intel-based Mac systems?  Etc.

 I'll send out an official release announcement once a few people have
 verified the current binaries.


From a quick browse of the timeline it looks like the ssh changes did not
make it in to this release. What needs to be done to make adding those
changes to the next release possible?

Also, a change summary would be helpful to direct testing efforts.


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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Matt Welland
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been
 uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html

 I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things
 were compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled
 binaries and let me know if you encounter any problems.

 I started a wiki page (
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To)
 describing how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need
 to be made for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example,
 will the Windows8 build using MSVC-x86 work for everybody, or do I need to
 redo that build on (say) Windows7 or perhaps using MinGW?  Does the Mac
 binary work on all intel-based Mac systems?  Etc.

 I'll send out an official release announcement once a few people have
 verified the current binaries.


 From a quick browse of the timeline it looks like the ssh changes did not
 make it in to this release. What needs to be done to make adding those
 changes to the next release possible?

 Also, a change summary would be helpful to direct testing efforts.


Sorry, of course the change summary is on the web page. I think it would be
helpful to paste it into announcement emails.





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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote:


 From a quick browse of the timeline it looks like the ssh changes did not
 make it in to this release. What needs to be done to make adding those
 changes to the next release possible?


I'd like to start moving those changes into trunk straight away.

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry, of course the change summary is on the web page. I think it would
 be helpful to paste it into announcement emails.


See the bottom half of the download page link he sent:

http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html


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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Jarek Lewandowski


On Windows platform.

W dniu 2013-09-11 21:00, Jarek Lewandowski pisze:

I have problem with https:

HTTPS: Fossil has been compiled without SSL support

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread David Mason
On 11 September 2013 11:00,  djg...@gmail.com wrote:
 This worked on Windows 2008 R2 64-bit, Windows 7 32-bit, Mountain Lion 10.8.4 
 64-bit.

and Snow Leopard 10.6.8 (and it's i386 so should work everywhere)

Well done!  Thanks  ../Dave
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Jarek Lewandowski

I have problem with https:

HTTPS: Fossil has been compiled without SSL support

jl

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Jarek Lewandowski maxja...@softleg.plwrote:

 I have problem with https:

 HTTPS: Fossil has been compiled without SSL support


I new windows binary with SSL support has been uploaded.

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Jarek Lewandowski

This version works ok.

W dniu 2013-09-11 21:42, Richard Hipp pisze:




On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Jarek Lewandowski maxja...@softleg.pl
mailto:maxja...@softleg.pl wrote:

I have problem with https:

HTTPS: Fossil has been compiled without SSL support


I new windows binary with SSL support has been uploaded.

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Kees Nuyt
[Default] On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:03:58 -0400, Richard Hipp
d...@sqlite.org wrote:

Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been
uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html

Thanks a ton, Richard!

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Re: [fossil-users] RFC before trunking 'usage' command

2013-09-11 Thread Kees Nuyt
[Default] On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 22:58:56 +0200, Stephan Beal
sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi, all,

Once 1.27 officially goes out the door, i plan on pulling the new 'usage'
command into the trunk (for 1.28). My question to you is: is there anyone
who finds the idea of fossil recording which commands (not their arguments)
and the times of their usage in the local checkout database offensive or
insecure? These data are _only_ local to the current checkout and are never
synchronized. The 'usage' command is only intended for informal personal
statistics gathering, and not for spying on developer's activity within a
given tree (that would be possible if devs have access to each others'
checkout directories).

I wouldn't mind logging the arguments as well, especially for commands
that modify the repository or a stash.
I wouldn't be interested in logging query-class commands, like 
fossil ls, fossil status, fossil timeline

If you don't find the idea offensive/abusive, you needn't say anything. If
you do, please voice your concerns. If there is sufficient outcry i'll drop
that branch instead of integrating it. If we do decide to add it, i will
add a config option to toggle it on and off (disabled by default).

PS: feel free to suggest a better command name than 'usage'. 'history'
would be the obvious choice (due to it's analog in Unix shells), but that
command name potentially has better uses in a future fossil version, so i
don't want to steal that one.

usage - commandtrace or commandhistory or cmdtrace or cmdhistory

Note: on Linux/unix, it doesn't add much, 
  history [-OPTIONS] | grep fossil
will do fine, on MS Windows, I think it really adds value.

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[fossil-users] RFC before trunking 'usage' command

2013-09-11 Thread Stephan Beal
Hi, all,

Once 1.27 officially goes out the door, i plan on pulling the new 'usage'
command into the trunk (for 1.28). My question to you is: is there anyone
who finds the idea of fossil recording which commands (not their arguments)
and the times of their usage in the local checkout database offensive or
insecure? These data are _only_ local to the current checkout and are never
synchronized. The 'usage' command is only intended for informal personal
statistics gathering, and not for spying on developer's activity within a
given tree (that would be possible if devs have access to each others'
checkout directories).

If you don't find the idea offensive/abusive, you needn't say anything. If
you do, please voice your concerns. If there is sufficient outcry i'll drop
that branch instead of integrating it. If we do decide to add it, i will
add a config option to toggle it on and off (disabled by default).

PS: feel free to suggest a better command name than 'usage'. 'history'
would be the obvious choice (due to it's analog in Unix shells), but that
command name potentially has better uses in a future fossil version, so i
don't want to steal that one.

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Re: [fossil-users] RFC before trunking 'usage' command

2013-09-11 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Kees Nuyt k.n...@zonnet.nl wrote:

 I wouldn't mind logging the arguments as well, especially for commands
 that modify the repository or a stash.


i considered it, but the code overhead just wasn't worth it at that time of
night. One of these days i'll miss having that, add it, and add a -verbose
option which also shows the args.


 I wouldn't be interested in logging query-class commands, like
 fossil ls, fossil status, fossil timeline


Do you mean the SQL code itself? If so, try:

f time -n 1 -sqltrace

One can learn a lot about how fossil works by using that.

usage - commandtrace or commandhistory or cmdtrace or cmdhistory


i think 3 of those might mess up the column alignment in 'help' ;).


 Note: on Linux/unix, it doesn't add much,
   history [-OPTIONS] | grep fossil
 will do fine, on MS Windows, I think it really adds value.


Me, too, but i'm aware that many other people have much greater concerns
regarding any sort of usage protocols. For me it's harmless, but it's not
just about me.

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Re: [fossil-users] RFC before trunking 'usage' command

2013-09-11 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Ron Wilson ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM, B Harder brad.har...@gmail.com wrote:

 fossil set tracker [on|off] ?

 Or 'fossil set cmdhist [on|off]'


i like cmdhist but my fingers don't like typing it :/. cmdhist. Just feels
awkward to type. Kind of like the word awkward. cmdhist. cmdhist. Maybe
it'll grow on me after a while. cmdhist. It's a bit better now, anyway.

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Re: [fossil-users] RFC before trunking 'usage' command

2013-09-11 Thread Ron Wilson
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM, B Harder brad.har...@gmail.com wrote:

 fossil set tracker [on|off] ?

Or 'fossil set cmdhist [on|off]'

Good idea.
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Re: [fossil-users] RFC before trunking 'usage' command

2013-09-11 Thread Ron Wilson
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Kees Nuyt k.n...@zonnet.nl wrote:

 [Default] On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:32:10 +0200, Stephan Beal
 sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
  usage - commandtrace or commandhistory or cmdtrace or cmdhistory
 
  i think 3 of those might mess up the column alignment in 'help' ;).

 Yeah, I'm happy with 'cmdhist' or 'chghist' or 'modhist' or 'shhist' ;)


I'd say 'cmdhist'. Is both short and clear what it does. While 'usage' is
technically correct as well, in Unix/Linux/POSIX, usage generally refers to
how-to-use, not history if use.
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Re: [fossil-users] RFC before trunking 'usage' command

2013-09-11 Thread B Harder
fossil set tracker [on|off] ?
On Sep 11, 2013 2:32 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Kees Nuyt k.n...@zonnet.nl wrote:

 I wouldn't mind logging the arguments as well, especially for commands
 that modify the repository or a stash.


 i considered it, but the code overhead just wasn't worth it at that time
 of night. One of these days i'll miss having that, add it, and add a
 -verbose option which also shows the args.


 I wouldn't be interested in logging query-class commands, like
 fossil ls, fossil status, fossil timeline


 Do you mean the SQL code itself? If so, try:

 f time -n 1 -sqltrace

 One can learn a lot about how fossil works by using that.

 usage - commandtrace or commandhistory or cmdtrace or cmdhistory


 i think 3 of those might mess up the column alignment in 'help' ;).


 Note: on Linux/unix, it doesn't add much,
   history [-OPTIONS] | grep fossil
 will do fine, on MS Windows, I think it really adds value.


 Me, too, but i'm aware that many other people have much greater concerns
 regarding any sort of usage protocols. For me it's harmless, but it's not
 just about me.

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Re: [fossil-users] RFC before trunking 'usage' command

2013-09-11 Thread Kees Nuyt
[Default] On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:32:10 +0200, Stephan Beal
sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:


 I wouldn't be interested in logging query-class commands, like
 fossil ls, fossil status, fossil timeline


Do you mean the SQL code itself? 

No, I now realize query is a confusing word.

I mean the class of commands that doesn't change anything to a
repository or a checkout is not interesting for logging.

So,
fossil {ls|status|timeline|changes|extra| ... }
don't have to be logged,

fossil {pull|push|sync|open|commit|stash| ... }
are interesting though.


 usage - commandtrace or commandhistory or cmdtrace or cmdhistory

 i think 3 of those might mess up the column alignment in 'help' ;).

Yeah, I'm happy with 'cmdhist' or 'chghist' or 'modhist' or 'shhist' ;)

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[fossil-users] Autosync: Too bad git doesn't have it...

2013-09-11 Thread Richard Hipp
It appears that autosync would have saved Linus Torvalds from losing some
work yesterday.  See
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1309.1/01669.html for
details.  Bummer.

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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Martin Gagnon
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been
 uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html

 I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things
 were compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled
 binaries and let me know if you encounter any problems.

 I started a wiki page (
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To)
 describing how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need
 to be made for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example,
 will the Windows8 build using MSVC-x86 work for everybody, or do I need to
 redo that build on (say) Windows7 or perhaps using MinGW?  Does the Mac
 binary work on all intel-based Mac systems?  Etc.

 I'll send out an official release announcement once a few people have
 verified the current binaries.


Hi Richard,

I notice from your Release+Build+How+To wiki, you build the OpenBSD release
from devious free shell service. I also have an account on devious and I
just notice they recently upgrade from OpenBSD 4.7 to 4.8. So I guess we
should change 4.7 to 4.8 on the download page too..


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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Christopher Vance
Versions of OpenBSD before 5.2 are obsolete and unsupported.


On 12 September 2013 10:35, Martin Gagnon eme...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 Fossil version 1.27 has been tagged and precompiled binaries have been
 uploaded to http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html

 I do this infrequently enough that I keep forgetting exactly how things
 were compiled the previous time.  So please try out the precompiled
 binaries and let me know if you encounter any problems.

 I started a wiki page (
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/wiki?name=Release+Build+How-To)
 describing how the precompiled binaries are produced.  If adjustments need
 to be made for compatibility purposes, please let me know.  For example,
 will the Windows8 build using MSVC-x86 work for everybody, or do I need to
 redo that build on (say) Windows7 or perhaps using MinGW?  Does the Mac
 binary work on all intel-based Mac systems?  Etc.

 I'll send out an official release announcement once a few people have
 verified the current binaries.


 Hi Richard,

 I notice from your Release+Build+How+To wiki, you build the OpenBSD
 release from devious free shell service. I also have an account on devious
 and I just notice they recently upgrade from OpenBSD 4.7 to 4.8. So I guess
 we should change 4.7 to 4.8 on the download page too..


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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Martin Gagnon eme...@gmail.com wrote:


 I notice from your Release+Build+How+To wiki, you build the OpenBSD
 release from devious free shell service. I also have an account on devious
 and I just notice they recently upgrade from OpenBSD 4.7 to 4.8. So I guess
 we should change 4.7 to 4.8 on the download page too..


Changed to a more generic 4.x.  Updated version numbers for MacOS and
Linux in the same way.


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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Carson Chittom
Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com writes:

 Fossil's testing infrastructure is not as amazing as sqlite's. For each
 release we (normally several of us) run through the following checklist:

 http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/test/release-checklist.wiki

Can I just say, the inclusion of OpenBSD on that checklist as an,
apparently, first-tier platform is one of the the things that makes me
want to continue to use Fossil. 


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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.27

2013-09-11 Thread Carson Chittom
Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org writes:

 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Martin Gagnon
 eme...@gmail.com wrote:


 I notice from your Release+Build+How+To wiki, you build the OpenBSD
 release from devious free shell service. I also have an account on devious
 and I just notice they recently upgrade from OpenBSD 4.7 to 4.8. So I guess
 we should change 4.7 to 4.8 on the download page too..


 Changed to a more generic 4.x.  Updated version numbers for MacOS and
 Linux in the same way.

Given that the most recent version of OpenBSD is 5.3, and that only the
current and previous releases are supported, is there anything--other
than what James Turner (who I see is the port maintainer) is already
doing--that I can do to ensure that Fossil works properly on OpenBSD?

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