Re: [fossil-users] Help with making a subroutine x-platform to windows
Well thunderbird sure mucked up that formatting. Launch windows command prompt type nslookup at the ">" prompt, type help typing exit will exit out of nslookup ----- Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 6/27/2018 14:22, Scott Doctor wrote: A way may be using the system() command to run nslookup. From the windows command line help for the command: Commands: (identifiers are shown in uppercase, [] means optional)NAME - print info about the host/domain NAME using default serverNAME1 NAME2 - as above, but use NAME2 as serverhelp or ? - print info on common commandsset OPTION - set an option all - print options, current server and host [no]debug - print debugging information [no]d2 - print exhaustive debugging information [no]defname - append domain name to each query [no]recurse - ask for recursive answer to query [no]search - use domain search list [no]vc - always use a virtual circuit domain=NAME - set default domain name to NAME srchlist=N1[/N2/.../N6] - set domain to N1 and search list to N1,N2, etc. root=NAME - set root server to NAME retry=X - set number of retries to X timeout=X - set initial time-out interval to X seconds type=X - set query type (ex. A,,A+,ANY,CNAME,MX,NS,PTR,SOA,SRV) querytype=X - same as type class=X - set query class (ex. IN (Internet), ANY) [no]msxfr - use MS fast zone transfer ixfrver=X - current version to use in IXFR transfer requestserver NAME - set default server to NAME, using current default serverlserver NAME - set default server to NAME, using initial serverroot - set current default server to the rootls [opt] DOMAIN [> FILE] - list addresses in DOMAIN (optional: output to FILE) -a - list canonical names and aliases -d - list all records -t TYPE - list records of the given RFC record type (ex. A,CNAME,MX,NS,PTR etc.)view FILE - sort an 'ls' output file and view it with pgexit - exit the program --------- Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 6/27/2018 12:24, Richard Hipp wrote: If anybody can suggest patches that will get this routine (https://fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/5e083abf6?ln=47) to compile and work on windows, that would really be helpful. Thanks. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Help with making a subroutine x-platform to windows
A way may be using the system() command to run nslookup. From the windows command line help for the command: Commands: (identifiers are shown in uppercase, [] means optional)NAME - print info about the host/domain NAME using default serverNAME1 NAME2 - as above, but use NAME2 as serverhelp or ? - print info on common commandsset OPTION - set an option all - print options, current server and host [no]debug - print debugging information [no]d2 - print exhaustive debugging information [no]defname - append domain name to each query [no]recurse - ask for recursive answer to query [no]search - use domain search list [no]vc - always use a virtual circuit domain=NAME - set default domain name to NAME srchlist=N1[/N2/.../N6] - set domain to N1 and search list to N1,N2, etc. root=NAME - set root server to NAME retry=X - set number of retries to X timeout=X - set initial time-out interval to X seconds type=X - set query type (ex. A,,A+,ANY,CNAME,MX,NS,PTR,SOA,SRV) querytype=X - same as type class=X - set query class (ex. IN (Internet), ANY) [no]msxfr - use MS fast zone transfer ixfrver=X - current version to use in IXFR transfer requestserver NAME - set default server to NAME, using current default serverlserver NAME - set default server to NAME, using initial serverroot - set current default server to the rootls [opt] DOMAIN [> FILE] - list addresses in DOMAIN (optional: output to FILE) -a - list canonical names and aliases -d - list all records -t TYPE - list records of the given RFC record type (ex. A,CNAME,MX,NS,PTR etc.)view FILE - sort an 'ls' output file and view it with pgexit - exit the program ----- Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 6/27/2018 12:24, Richard Hipp wrote: If anybody can suggest patches that will get this routine (https://fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/5e083abf6?ln=47) to compile and work on windows, that would really be helpful. Thanks. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Make Tech Notes work like a Lab Notebook
Looking through my current project fossil UI, it seems that instead of adding a forum module, what about a modification to the Tech Notes module. What I need is a way to simply link and group various tech notes, which may span hundreds of notes over long periods of time. I am thinking like the way emails thread via topic. Having a REPLY type button on a tech note which would create a new tech note but that is linked to the parent note creating a tree of linkages that can be searched, browsed, and adjusted. Need a simple way to link a tech note to one or more tickets and other tech notes (since a note may address more than one issue). I am thinking if a problem re-surfaces in the future, a search or browse can find and resurrect a thread to help with discussion and documentation about a potential solution, or to simply document results of experiments. Need a simple way to add links within the body of a tech note to reference other tech notes and tickets referenced in the text (hyperlinks). Also a simple way to add a link in the body text to specific files in the repository. This may be a data file from an experiment or such. When it comes time to write documentation about the project, all tech notes about a specific issue can then be searched, collected, and organized to reference when writing the documentation and such. My projects involve more than just writing code (I do research). I think a few modifications to the tech notes module would make it usable like a lab notebook. I can make notes about whatever, have multiple threads of unrelated issues, and be able to manipulate linkages later so that I can scavenge and organize my notes when I write a paper or documentation about my project. This would be along the lines of what a writer would do using software such as scrivener. https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener/overview My projects may go on for years and often pivot, morph and get set aside and delayed for extended periods of time. My memory of issues from years ago tends to fade. This would help refresh my memory later when needed. The concepts in Fossil are similar to what a writer would do when researching a book. Many items get written down, some not used, some set aside, some important. But at a later date it is necessary to collect it together and organize. Kind of like the old fashion index card method of writing a research paper (back in the stone age when cursive writing was taught in schools and libraries had physical card catalogs). -- - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Mailing list shutting down...
Just my 2 cents. I do not think including a forum module in fossil is a good idea. Forum software is an entire project by itself. Over the years I tried various open source forum software for my various project websites. Simple Machines Forum (SMF) is the go-to one that I use. It has various anti-spam modules and add-ons that work well and is easy to setup, administer, and moderate. Plenty of options to configure with as little or as much protection as desired. https://www.simplemachines.org/ I think a forum is a better way to go. Easy to search and browse topics. Have just a few boards. SQLite, Fossil, FAQ, maybe a couple of others. I find forums that use too many boards annoying and difficult to decide which board I should post a specific question. Email addresses can be hidden so the issue of scrapping goes away. SMF (and most other forum software) allows private messaging. So it is never necessary for anyone to have a specific persons email thereby solving the main issue. - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Ignore files that match mask
Is there a way to make fossil ignore all files that match a mask? It is very annoying to have very long scroll lists of the temporary files from the compiler. I want to set fossil to ignore all files that have a tilde in the extension of its file name *.~* How do I set it to do such? -- - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Where did the skins go
I updated my copy of fossil to the latest version. I created a new repository, launched the fossil ui, opened admin->skins, all I see is the options to create a new skin. What happened to all of the predefined skins? -- ----- Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Error on commit
That worked. According to the changes command, 136 history files removed, 81 new history files added, and 22 files were edited. The commit completed without error this time. So I guess I will make a batch file to do those three commands for when I do a commit. - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 3/26/2018 15:18, Richard Hipp wrote: On 3/26/18, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: I ran the stash command and got the following: no such file: D/water/C/slave/__history/main.c.~15~ Probably this mean that you previously committed the file main.c.~15~ but it was subsequently deleted without you doing "fossil rm". If you want to check-in an *exact* copy of the directory hierarchy as it stands now, try this: fossil addremove fossil changes-- to see what it is you are about to do fossil commit The "addremove" command looks through your directory hierarchy and does the equivalent of "fossil add" for every file it finds that is not currently under control, and "fossil rm" for every file that is under control that is now missing. Is that what you are trying to accomplish? I am writing code for several Atmel (now Microchip) sam4s Arm processora using Atmel Studio IDE. This is built on Microsloths Visual Studio. The system automatically makes many history sub-folders throughout the project directory tree. So it appears that when I created the repository there were these history folders which commited transient files that no longer exist, are hidden, and are read-only. So how do I handle a dynamic system of ever changing history files that are all over the directory tree? Any time I open a file to edit in some subfolder, the IDE creates a hidden sub-folder in that directory to store the history. A quick look around I found 36 of these. I have no need for these history files to be in the fossil repository, but the folders are also transient. ugh. This is a reason why I would like to be able to add/delete/commit from the gui. The tree is too complicated and too many unknown folders to navigate from the command line. - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 3/26/2018 13:47, Richard Hipp wrote: On 3/26/18, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: I just typed: fossil commit All I wanted to do was take a snapshot of the current state in case I wanted to back out of my changes after my forthcoming edit session. Am I doing this wrong? You seem to be doing it right. I don't know what the problem might be. If you tried running "fossil stash" instead? ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Error on commit
I ran the stash command and got the following: no such file: D/water/C/slave/__history/main.c.~15~ I am writing code for several Atmel (now Microchip) sam4s Arm processora using Atmel Studio IDE. This is built on Microsloths Visual Studio. The system automatically makes many history sub-folders throughout the project directory tree. So it appears that when I created the repository there were these history folders which commited transient files that no longer exist, are hidden, and are read-only. So how do I handle a dynamic system of ever changing history files that are all over the directory tree? Any time I open a file to edit in some subfolder, the IDE creates a hidden sub-folder in that directory to store the history. A quick look around I found 36 of these. I have no need for these history files to be in the fossil repository, but the folders are also transient. ugh. This is a reason why I would like to be able to add/delete/commit from the gui. The tree is too complicated and too many unknown folders to navigate from the command line. - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 3/26/2018 13:47, Richard Hipp wrote: On 3/26/18, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: I just typed: fossil commit All I wanted to do was take a snapshot of the current state in case I wanted to back out of my changes after my forthcoming edit session. Am I doing this wrong? You seem to be doing it right. I don't know what the problem might be. If you tried running "fossil stash" instead? ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Error on commit
I just typed: fossil commit All I wanted to do was take a snapshot of the current state in case I wanted to back out of my changes after my forthcoming edit session. Am I doing this wrong? - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 3/26/2018 13:03, jungle Boogie wrote: On 26 March 2018 at 12:27, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: A while back I created a new repository for a project I ressurected. Checked it after creating with the fossil ui that all files included and such. Everything OK. My project contains many folders and a couple hundred files for a multi processor embedded application. Been working on the program for a while. I tried to do a commit as I have not done so in a while and I am getting ready to do some major work on my program. Issued the fossil commit command. What was the exact commit command you issued? ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Error on commit
I emailed you the _FOSSIL_ file for the repository - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 3/26/2018 12:42, Richard Hipp wrote: On 3/26/18, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: A bunch of file names scrolled up the screen then got the message: aborting due to prior errors More details on the error message would be helpful. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Error on commit
That is the entirety of the error message. Such is the problem I am having trying to find what is the error. The error message displayed, then returned to the command line prompt - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 3/26/2018 12:42, Richard Hipp wrote: On 3/26/18, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: A bunch of file names scrolled up the screen then got the message: aborting due to prior errors More details on the error message would be helpful. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Error on commit
A while back I created a new repository for a project I ressurected. Checked it after creating with the fossil ui that all files included and such. Everything OK. My project contains many folders and a couple hundred files for a multi processor embedded application. Been working on the program for a while. I tried to do a commit as I have not done so in a while and I am getting ready to do some major work on my program. Issued the fossil commit command. A bunch of file names scrolled up the screen then got the message: aborting due to prior errors Launching the fossil UI shows only my initial commit from a while back in the timeline. At a loss as to what to check or how to proceed. Should I delete the repository and recreate it? Is there an operation I can run to find out what error it is referencing? -- - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Setting up an internet Fossil server
Putting the repository name into it
https://nousrandom.net/code/Random
the browser tries to download the file. So it seems the issue is
with the location{} statement. Will respond with the complete
nginx.conf file later (got some pay-the-bills work to do at this
moment). The config is the default configuration from a clean
install of debian, nginx, and certbot installation of
letsencrypt.. Except for the ssl stuff added by certbot, it is
all default. There are two include files that are linked from
with the file. The three server statements are in the include
files. I put the location {} in the first server declaration.
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On 3/7/2018 09:08, John Found wrote:
On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 16:30:58 -0800
Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote:
Well I did everything in the list. Triple checked eveything.
Keep getting a 403 error (forbidden) when I try to access
through the browser.
https://nousrandom.net/code/
I created a new repository in that folder, opened it and did an
empty commit. Must be missing some setting somewhere. I have the
fossil executable in /usr/bin with permissions at 755. I can
execute fossil from the command line (via putty). I think a
problem may be where I put the location {...}.
Any suggestions what to check?
Very hard to say... Can you download the created .fossil files, by specifying
them in the URL? If so, then the
location {} settings are wrong and this directory is served as an usual web
site directory.
Think about publishing the nginx.conf files. I don't think it is a big security
risk.
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On 3/3/2018 15:17, John Found wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:57:58 -0800
Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote:
I am trying to setup an internet server for one of my projects
that I am going to make open source using fossil. I have a new
Linode server account with a clean install (and fully updated)
of debian and nginx with letsencrypt https working properly. I
am having trouble getting fossil to work.
Is there a step-by-step how to get fossil to work from an
internet page?
My website I am trying to do this on is:
If you have working nginx with https, the remaining is straightforward:
1. Make fossil to work like a scgi server. I have done it through systemd
service;
1.1 create file "/etc/systemd/system/fossil.service" with the following text:
[Unit]
Description=Fossil scm SCGI script.
After=network.target network-online.target nss-lookup.target nginx.service
[Service]
Type=simple
User=THE_USER_YOU_WANT
WorkingDirectory=/DOCUMENT_ROOT/fossil/
ExecStart=/usr/bin/fossil server /DOCUMENT_ROOT/fossil/ --scgi --localhost
--port 9000 --repolist
Restart=on-failure
[Install]
WantedBy=nginx.service
1.2 Execute:
$sudo systemctl enable fossil
$sudo systemctl start fossil
2. Configure nginx.
Include in the server{} section of your config file:
location /fossil/ {
scgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000;
include scgi_params;
scgi_param SCRIPT_NAME "/fossil";
client_max_body_size 20M;
}
3. Now every .fossil repo, located in the /fossil/ directory will be accessible
on:
https://your.web.site/fossil/repo_name/
Hope will be helpful.
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Re: [fossil-users] Setting up an internet Fossil server
Well I did everything in the list. Triple checked eveything.
Keep getting a 403 error (forbidden) when I try to access
through the browser.
https://nousrandom.net/code/
I created a new repository in that folder, opened it and did an
empty commit. Must be missing some setting somewhere. I have the
fossil executable in /usr/bin with permissions at 755. I can
execute fossil from the command line (via putty). I think a
problem may be where I put the location {...}.
Any suggestions what to check?
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Scott Doctor
sc...@scottdoctor.com
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On 3/3/2018 15:17, John Found wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:57:58 -0800
Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote:
I am trying to setup an internet server for one of my projects
that I am going to make open source using fossil. I have a new
Linode server account with a clean install (and fully updated)
of debian and nginx with letsencrypt https working properly. I
am having trouble getting fossil to work.
Is there a step-by-step how to get fossil to work from an
internet page?
My website I am trying to do this on is:
If you have working nginx with https, the remaining is straightforward:
1. Make fossil to work like a scgi server. I have done it through systemd
service;
1.1 create file "/etc/systemd/system/fossil.service" with the following text:
[Unit]
Description=Fossil scm SCGI script.
After=network.target network-online.target nss-lookup.target nginx.service
[Service]
Type=simple
User=THE_USER_YOU_WANT
WorkingDirectory=/DOCUMENT_ROOT/fossil/
ExecStart=/usr/bin/fossil server /DOCUMENT_ROOT/fossil/ --scgi --localhost
--port 9000 --repolist
Restart=on-failure
[Install]
WantedBy=nginx.service
1.2 Execute:
$sudo systemctl enable fossil
$sudo systemctl start fossil
2. Configure nginx.
Include in the server{} section of your config file:
location /fossil/ {
scgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000;
include scgi_params;
scgi_param SCRIPT_NAME "/fossil";
client_max_body_size 20M;
}
3. Now every .fossil repo, located in the /fossil/ directory will be accessible
on:
https://your.web.site/fossil/repo_name/
Hope will be helpful.
Regards
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Re: [fossil-users] Setting up an internet Fossil server
Ugh, mail program seems to have word wrapped the quoted section
of your post.
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On 3/3/2018 15:17, John Found wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 10:57:58 -0800
Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote:
I am trying to setup an internet server for one of my projects
that I am going to make open source using fossil. I have a new
Linode server account with a clean install (and fully updated)
of debian and nginx with letsencrypt https working properly. I
am having trouble getting fossil to work.
Is there a step-by-step how to get fossil to work from an
internet page?
My website I am trying to do this on is:
If you have working nginx with https, the remaining is straightforward:
1. Make fossil to work like a scgi server. I have done it through systemd
service;
1.1 create file "/etc/systemd/system/fossil.service" with the following text:
[Unit]
Description=Fossil scm SCGI script.
After=network.target network-online.target nss-lookup.target nginx.service
[Service]
Type=simple
User=THE_USER_YOU_WANT
WorkingDirectory=/DOCUMENT_ROOT/fossil/
ExecStart=/usr/bin/fossil server /DOCUMENT_ROOT/fossil/ --scgi --localhost
--port 9000 --repolist
Restart=on-failure
[Install]
WantedBy=nginx.service
1.2 Execute:
$sudo systemctl enable fossil
$sudo systemctl start fossil
2. Configure nginx.
Include in the server{} section of your config file:
location /fossil/ {
scgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000;
include scgi_params;
scgi_param SCRIPT_NAME "/fossil";
client_max_body_size 20M;
}
3. Now every .fossil repo, located in the /fossil/ directory will be accessible
on:
https://your.web.site/fossil/repo_name/
Hope will be helpful.
Regards
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Re: [fossil-users] Setting up an internet Fossil server
This is the first time I am using nginx so I am learning this as
I go.
A couple of questions. Under your 1.1 the [service] section,
what do I use for THE_USER_YOU_WANT since the access will be
from the internet?
The default location for web pages is /var/www/html/
is this what I should use for DOCUMENT_ROOT?
I assume from the ExecStart I should place the fossil executable
in /usr/bin,
correct?
If I reboot the server, is it necessary for me to login and
manually start by your 1.2 Execute commands?
I assume the config file you refer in your 1.2 is the
/etc/nginx/nginx.conf
Correct?
the file has three declared server sections, each follows each.
Do these catenate? or does each one have a specific use?
simply, which one am I supposed to insert the location stuff?
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On 3/3/2018 15:17, John Found wrote
If you have working nginx with https, the remaining is
straightforward: 1. Make fossil to work like a scgi server. I
have done it through systemd service; 1.1 create file
"/etc/systemd/system/fossil.service" with the following text:
[Unit] Description=Fossil scm SCGI script.
After=network.target network-online.target nss-lookup.target
nginx.service [Service] Type=simple User=THE_USER_YOU_WANT
WorkingDirectory=/DOCUMENT_ROOT/fossil/
ExecStart=/usr/bin/fossil server /DOCUMENT_ROOT/fossil/ --scgi
--localhost --port 9000 --repolist Restart=on-failure
[Install] WantedBy=nginx.service 1.2 Execute: $sudo systemctl
enable fossil $sudo systemctl start fossil 2. Configure nginx.
Include in the server{} section of your config file: location
/fossil/ { scgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000; include scgi_params;
scgi_param SCRIPT_NAME "/fossil"; client_max_body_size 20M; }
3. Now every .fossil repo, located in the /fossil/ directory
will be accessible on: https://your.web.site/fossil/repo_name/
Hope will be helpful. Regards
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Re: [fossil-users] Setting up an internet Fossil server
Regarding setting up https in nginx, certbot now supports nginx. the letsencrypt website has a link to the certbot page where you choose the operating system and server. do a few simple command line operations, answer a few questions, wait a few seconds, and done. - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 2/26/2018 05:17, Warren Young wrote: On Feb 24, 2018, at 11:57 AM, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: Is there a step-by-step how to get fossil to work from an internet page? I’ve posted this here several times now: https://www.mail-archive.com/fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org/msg22907.html Since you’ve already got Let’s Encrypt working with nginx, you can skip all of that. The HOWTO was written before Let’s Encrypt had built-in support for nginx. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Setting up an internet Fossil server
Going to give this a try. (also busy with other pay-the-bills work so I tend to do this one in my spare (ha) time). The issue I am trying to figure out is that it seems it is an all or nothing setup. Either the website is using fossil as the website or not at all. Most of the website is HTML5 and php pages that have nothing to do with the fossil archive. It is the functionality of the random number generator, api, and website UI I designed that I am packaging up as an open source project. Hence the use of fossil. What I want is for fossil to activate when I access a specific directory to use fossil. https://nousrandom.net/code/ But it appears I am going to have to make a sub-domain to do this. I put the fossil program in that folder, and through the command line interface (via putty) created a new archive in that folder. However, when I issue the command fossil server --scgi the program runs in the foreground and the command line control is unusable until I ctrl-c. So I guess I need to create a sub-domain to use fossil. Still have not yet got it to work even as a stand-alone. To be continued... - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 2/26/2018 05:17, Warren Young wrote: On Feb 24, 2018, at 11:57 AM, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: Is there a step-by-step how to get fossil to work from an internet page? I’ve posted this here several times now: https://www.mail-archive.com/fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org/msg22907.html Since you’ve already got Let’s Encrypt working with nginx, you can skip all of that. The HOWTO was written before Let’s Encrypt had built-in support for nginx. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Setting up an internet Fossil server
I am trying to setup an internet server for one of my projects that I am going to make open source using fossil. I have a new Linode server account with a clean install (and fully updated) of debian and nginx with letsencrypt https working properly. I am having trouble getting fossil to work. Is there a step-by-step how to get fossil to work from an internet page? My website I am trying to do this on is: https://nousrandom.net/ -- - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] How to disable crlf warning permanently
How can I permanently turn off the crlf warning that occurs when I do I do a commit without having to use the crlf-glob command each time? I do not get why that warning even exists. -- - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] How to ignore hidden folders
The C compiler IDE creates hidden folders in each directory with my source code which the IDE uses for storing history and recovery information. A compile creates a non-hidden folder, usually called DEBUG where the compiled object files and such are placed. When I do a "fossil extras" I get a very long list of those transient files, all which I do not want in the repository. How do I set a permanent ignore for hidden folders, or a specific folder? -- ----- Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Adding binary files to fossil
I added my binary files. Did not get any warning. Should I get a warning if fossil detects that a file is binary? Alloptions are the default except for the skin (I like the Blitz no logo skin). The files are partial text with a bunch of embedded binary control codes. Should I force fossil to recognize a file as being binary (How to do that?)? On a separate topic: How do I change a previously added file into an unversioned file? I cannot seem to find a command that does that. Regarding unversioned files. I am a bit unclear how they are handled. Usually those files do not change (they are specific to the hardware), but they might if the hardware is modified. From what I read, an unversioned file will be replaced by a newer version and the older version disappears. Correct? As a side note, I am starting to get the hang of using fossil. The ticket/wiki/tech note system is very handy for tracking issues, to-do's, and documenting the how-to instructions during development. Much better than any other program I tried including Git, Subversion, and Mercurial. (I really hate Git). - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Adding binary files to fossil
I have a repository with typical C source text files (about 100 files across several sub-folders). There are a few binary files that are needed to compile and use the program. The files are part of the program, but the contents need to stay as-is binary. What is the proper way to add binary files to a repository? I want the others to be able to simply unzip and have the full set of files without having to do a separate download and unzip for the binaries. -- - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] private branches
Reading through the fossil documentation about private branches. It states that There is no way to convert a private branch into a public branch. But all of the changes associated with the private branch are folded into the public branch and are hence visible to other users of the project. I am confuzzled. Seems the private branch becomes public by folding into the public branch. I am inheriting some 20 year old C code for a device that is being completely redesigned with modern everything. The algorithms used in the old code required going through many months of verification and certification (government mandated). I need to track all changes (I am going to be gut it using a facsimile of the core algorithm) so I figure this is a good candidate for using Fossil. They are currently using an ancient CVS system that, well I could not find a single reference to it anywhere. So I am going to try to convince them to use a different system since we are effectively starting from scratch. So I am back again trying to figure out the details how to use fossil before I am forced to use some other system. Fossil seems to be the least painful of the alternatives. -- - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] remote check in
Just to clear up some confusion. The issues I initially had with fossil were due to a misunderstanding about how fossil works. An issue is that clicking the help button in the fossil UI gives a wall of commands. That is fine if you already understand the concept of the base operations and just need a quick syntax reference. But when trying to learn fossil from scratch, confusion sets in when looking at most of the commands without an understanding of why/when/should it be used. As it turns out, most of the commands are not used on a normal basis which just confuses a newbie without knowing what is/not important. I think the documentation should group the most commonly used commands from the master list. Maybe make several groups presented in most-used to rarely-used groupings. A primer should avoid permuting the possible operations until later (it just adds to the confusion) and focus on a complete real example with the concepts explained as though the reader is seeing it for the very first time. Regarding my command line comment. Originally I misinterpreted how fossil works. Here is how I thought it worked based on the explanations how to use it. (Note this was my original interpretation and have since figured out how it really works). It seemed as though fossil was basically a ticket/wiki database that had a fancy way of zipping groups of files together. Without understanding the concept how it works, I derived that clone basically sent a zipped package of files, you work on the files, then zip them back up and then someone manually has to conditionally decide what to merge back into the main repository. That is what I derived from the documentation. As such I initially saw fossil as a burden to use that did not really add any value to my workflow. I was not aware that doing a commit or sync automatically updated the main repository. That should be the very first topic of discussion in the documentation (with a better explanation and example). The documentation seems to imply that only the local copy is modified, which is why I was confused about the server command line issue. I was trying to figure out how changes to my local copy made it back into the main copy on the server. The command line I was referring to was the command line on the server not the local workstation. The documentation seems to read as though to get the local copy back into the main repository requires a bunch of commands need to be executed on the server command line. The documentation needs a newbie primer that better explains how commits and syncing works. I now mostly figured it out, but was initially discouraged because of the seemingly (incorrect) concept of operation for syncing with the main repository. A problem with most manuals for many software products is that an assumption is made that the reader already understands the concept of operation. If the reader is confuzzled at the start, then explanations of the commands do not absorb without an understanding why it is being done. - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 10/24/2016 08:18, Warren Young wrote: On Oct 22, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: How do they do such over the internet without having command line access? Are you actually saying that your fellow researchers don’t have access to the command line on their own workstations? I do understand that some managed PC installations do try to turn off the local OS command terminal. An IT industry columnist I follow calls such people the Value Prevention Society, because they frequently take actions to remove the value we should expect to get from user-owned PCs over mainframes and such. If you actually do find yourself operating in such a benighted environment, you could build a GUI wrapper program around the fossil.exe binary. I’m not talking about anything grandiose; maybe half a day of time in your favorite GUI builder. You could do this in anything from VB to Tcl/Tk to HTML Applications. You could probably even do it in FileMaker. :) (Yes, I’m making a leap here that you’re using Windows. Organizations that allow use of other OSes generally don’t even *try* to lock their users out of the local command line.) Seems adding files, doing check-ins, merges, should all be part of the UI. Someone has to do it. Patches will be thoughtfully reviewed. :) ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] remote check in
On 10/23/2016 13:59, Artur Shepilko wrote: It's not clear what type of project the OP is trying to setup, whether it's a programming-related project, or general document-repo type. I am doing research where we may do a dozen iterations a day generating about 10-100MB of files per iteration. within a short period of time we will have well over a terabyte of information. My current workflow uses a database (was filemaker but switched to sqlite a while ago) like a library card catalog with notes and status fields. The files are a combination of analysis code, text csv, binary, and documentation. Occasionally we find something and want to go back to older data and re-run the experiment with a few tweaks, or modify the analysis program. I have information overload and finding stuff, even with it cataloged in a database, is becoming a significant chore. So I am trying out different techniques, such as using fossil, to track the experiments and the large volume of information. - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] remote check in
I am trying to figure out how to use fossil for an upcoming project. I keep coming back to fossil as the alternatives (git, mercurial,...) are just... well I will go bald trying to figure them out. I made a test repository to play with and mostly figured out the command line commands. The problem I am having is how to add files, do check-ins and such via the UI, mostly regarding doing it remotely without command line access. My question is, for example the sqlite fossil system, someone wants to check-in a change of a file, or add a new file. How do they do such over the internet without having command line access? I do not see any operations from the UI that does that. Seems adding files, doing check-ins, merges, should all be part of the UI. So do people who have a check-in or a new file email the file to the administrator and they add/check-in, or do those people have command line access? -- - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Repository question
The fossil wiki states that Check-ins are normally stored in the repository in a highly space-efficient compressed format (delta encoding). Assume many check-ins occurred with many changes over many files. Seems that if something glitches everything can become out of sync and hard to recover. My question, is there is a way to tell fossil to store the complete versions of the documents instead of it recreating the documents by piecing all those fragments together. My concern is that something goes wrong, perhaps a bad disk sector not necessarily a software issue, that would further complicate recover. -- - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] disabled due to excessive bounces (again?)
Could it be a virus or some sort of malware? - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 10/17/2016 19:12, Richard Hipp wrote: I was just now booted from my own mailing list for excessive bounces. ;-) Dunno what that is about... It was easy enough to click on the link in the notification message to resubscribe. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] www.fossil-scm.org down?
Using a rewrite in .htaccess on the home page will push everyone
to https. Seems that the server should auto push to the https
from http, but it does not. On my website I put the following at
the top of the .htaccess file
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTPS} off
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ https://%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI} [L,R=301]
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Scott Doctor
sc...@scottdoctor.com
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On 10/15/2016 18:47, Richard Hipp wrote:
On 10/15/16, Johan Kuuse <jo...@kuu.se> wrote:
Hi,
I cannot acces www.fossil-scm.org
Anyway, www.fossil-scm.org:8080 responds, so it seems to be a problem
with the web server.
xinitd, which manages inbound connections on port 80, had crashed. I
restarted it. Things should be working again. Thanks for the report.
I had not noticed it before because I always use https instead of
http.
https on port 443 is managed by stunnel4. It was still running.
Apache manages port 8080 and it was still running. Backup servers at
http://www2.fossil-scm.org/ and http://www3.fossil-scm.org/ were both
still running.
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Re: [fossil-users] www.fossil-scm.org down?
I jsut tried it. Firefox reports an unable to connect error - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - On 10/15/2016 16:55, Johan Kuuse wrote: Hi, I cannot acces www.fossil-scm.org Anyway, www.fossil-scm.org:8080 responds, so it seems to be a problem with the web server. BR, Johan ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Further mailing list configuration changes.
Yay. - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com On 06/26/2016 21:14, Steve Stefanovich wrote: Works, don't touch it anymore :) Cheers, Steve --- Original Message From: Richard Hipp Sent: Monday, 27 June 2016 14:13 To: fossil-users Reply To: Fossil SCM user's discussion Subject: [fossil-users] Further mailing list configuration changes. The "From:" removal has been turned off and in its place "Reply-To:" removal has been turned on. This is a test message to verify the new configuration. Further changes might occur depending on how this one goes. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] fossil as a website content manager
Poking around my godaddy interface, it states my service has support for Perl w/FASTCGI, Python CGI, and Ruby on Rails w/FASTCGI. Usually I make a web page in html then upload it into a folder. the index.html file automatically loads when the web browser url is set to that folder. A while back I played with some experimental php written pages to learn php. most web applications, like wordwpress, drupal,... seem to be written in php. I do not seem to have command line root access, so I cannot execute gcc. So I... well... hmmm... I can ftp files into a folder, create folders, set some options. Certain file types seem to automatically work. Guess I need to get cpanel added to my account to do this which supposedly gives me command line control. Anybody out there ever get Fossil to work on a godaddy shared server? Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- On 4/5/2016 8:28 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 4/5/16, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: I am starting yet another project, ... I am going to give fossil a shot at being the content manager for this one. It looks like the sqlite and fossil website are using fossil for doing such. I would like to know how much modification and special code you use in addition to the built-in fossil stuff. (referring mostly to the wiki and download pages) The SQLite website is mostly static pages. The repositories use CGI. The main SQLite website uses a custom web-server, the source code for which can be seen at (https://www.sqlite.org/docsrc/finfo?name=misc/althttpd.c) (Yes, the complete web-server is implemented as a single file of C code.) The Fossil website, on the other hand, is mostly just a running instance of Fossil. For the main website, it is hosted on the same server and using the same custom web-server as SQLite. But the backup site at www3.fossil-scm.org is on a shared-hosting account a Hurricane Electric running Apache. See https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/cd58f59a474c7ef773d1/www/selfhost.wiki for additional information. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] fossil as a website content manager
I am starting yet another project, well an offshoot of a current one (like I don't have too many already). This one I need to put some stuff on a password protected page (usually using .htaccess) on my website so that others on the project can have access to the files. So I am going to give fossil a shot at being the content manager for this one. It looks like the sqlite and fossil website are using fossil for doing such. I would like to know how much modification and special code you use in addition to the built-in fossil stuff. (referring mostly to the wiki and download pages) I have a GoDaddy shared server website account. Still trying to figure out what I ftp to the page and what to configure to get a clean install of fossil working on it. My website server account uses linux and has php 5.5. I usually just make my web pages offline with a web page creator program in html then upload them to whatever directory. But this one is more complicated. was looking at using Drupal, but I think fossil might be a better fit, if I can get it working on my website. -- - Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] The "fbapp:" scheme in the HTTP REFERER
here are three references that use that number. looks like it is due to java code for accessing facebook. https://jrcorner.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/fetching-facebook-graph-data-with-go/ https://github.com/yappbox/FacebookConnect/blob/master/src/android/facebook/Facebook.java https://code.google.com/a/eclipselabs.org/p/android-sharing-function/source/browse/src/com/google/code/sharing/facebook/Facebook.java?spec=svn6da0b6e7ab022c4a23cadda7862c5292eaefdc35=6da0b6e7ab022c4a23cadda7862c5292eaefdc35 On 01/18/2016 05:33, Richard Hipp wrote: The #1 source of external visits to the Fossil website over the past 48 hours (according to webserver logs) has been: fbapp://350685531728/newsfeed_image_share_view Can anybody tell me how to view that content? Presumably "fbapp" is shorthand for "Facebook Application". But what does the rest mean? -- --------- Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] VCS Theory
I am looking for information about the theory of VCS that is being used for systems such as Fossil, Git... Not so much the how-to-use, but the concepts and issues. Any suggestions of either links to something like wikipedia pages or a well written book I can find at the university library. -- Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] fossil v1.34 unexpected CLEAN command changes from v1.33
why is 10mb a magic number? Why have a magic number at all? Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- On 11/3/2015 5:20 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 11/3/15, Tony Papadimitriou <to...@acm.org> wrote: Thanks. BTW, the help for clean shows this (which is a bit misleading): --no-prompt This option disables prompting the user for input and assumes an answer of 'No' for every question. But, if prompting is disabled by default, how does that disable it further? By default it still prompts to confirm deletes of files that cannot be undone - specifically files larger than 10MB. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git
Which is why I like my process. Redundancy is good. Not dependent on some algorithm to piece things back together. Disks are so frikkin large now that it is not an issue to have multiple copies of the same file. If one set gets corrupted, just use the one behind it. Fully self contained archived snapshots not needing any program to access it. Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- On 10/31/2015 1:53 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Michal Suchanek <hramr...@gmail.com <mailto:hramr...@gmail.com>> wrote: Unless you delete .git your checkout is always in well defined state. No, it's not. i once literally had one of the libgit maintainers at my desk for a full hour trying to get my repo (of a project we were both working on for our employers) back in a pushable state after it got jumbled up by me copy/pasting commands suggested by StackOverflow (about the worst place to get git advice). If one of the developers takes that long to straighten it out, then something is (IMO) fundamentally wrong. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal "Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git
I did not say I did not use version control. By VCS I refer to the programs such as fossil, git, mercurial... used for doing such. I am using Fossil for my current project in parallel with my own way of handling versions. Embarcadero RAD Studio incorporates Git, Mercurial, and Subversion into the IDE. Had issues with them, so I tried fossil. Still evaluating its utility. What I meant was I end up spending much time trying to get the tools to do what I want it to do versus how it wants to do it. Especially when new to the system, a GUI interface is much better than having to work with yet another list of command line formats. I fully see the utility of a VCS on collaborative projects. My project is for my own research work and is not used by any clients. I am also the only one who plays with my code. So some of the utility needed for collaborative efforts becomes cumbersome for a solo project. I have a directory tree on various backup drives of my old versions, one-off programs, and a huge library of my own utilities. The development system I use (Embarcadero RAD Studio) has a built-in program manager which juggles the various files required for the build. Before I start writing a new function, process, or other modification, I create a sub-folder of my backup folder which are numbered in sequence. The file system applies a date to the creation time of the folder which identifies when the backup was made. I then simply copy my entire project folder into the backup folder. If I break the code, or decide to revert the changes, I restore the project from the desired backup folder. This is a bit cumbersome way of handling versions, especially given my main program consists of more than 250 files. Such is why I am trying out various VCS systems. I am finding them just as cumbersome of a process with an added layer of things to go wrong. Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- On 10/30/2015 12:59 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 10/30/15, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: That is my experience with all VCS systems. Even with fossil, I am having trouble justifying why the hassle is worth the effort. What do you do when a customer calls to ask about code you sent them 18 months ago? How do you figure out what version of the code they are running? When you find an obscure bug that you know was not in the release from December 2012 but might have been introduced anytime between then and now, how do you figure out when it was introduced? How do you add experimental features and make experimental changes? Do you just start hacking away and hope the changes don't break anything? How do you identify versions of your code to your customer? How do you verify that no stray changes have been introduced into your code? How do you backup your code? When you have multiple people collaborating on the same project, how do you coordinate their changes and ensure that features added by one developer don't get overwritten and erased by another developers. How do you know who is working on what? Can you even identify what you code is? Seriously. I don't understand how it is possible to make reliable software without good version control. Is the foundation of everything. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git
It is sort of the "Lightbulb Problem": Scenario 1: I want to design a lightbulb. So I study metallurgy, thermodynamics, electronics, manufacturing processes... Study what others succeded/failed at,... and so forth. Scenario 2: I want to use that lightbulb in my project. I only need to study a subset, or simply how to wire it up from the manual. Sceanario 3: I want to turn on the light bulb. -------- Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- On 10/30/2015 11:44 AM, Gour wrote: On Pet, 2015-10-30 at 21:33 +0300, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: I'm a programmer, and after having used a bunch of centralized and distributed VC systems I've come to a temporary conclusion that the set of problems [D]VC systems are trying to solve has certain irreducible complexity, and hence these systems either throw it onto the heads of the users (Git) or sweep it under the rug (Mercurial, Fossil). I do use Fossil for *all* my private projects and intend to use it for open-source one as well...however, in my experience using different (D)VCS, I still believe that Darcs was the easiest one to use, but, it had some peformance problems as well as lack of reliable public hosting. Sincerely, Gour ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] xkcd on git
That is my experience with all VCS systems. Even with fossil, I am having trouble justifying why the hassle is worth the effort. Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- On 10/30/2015 10:07 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Eric Rubin-Smith <eas@gmail.com <mailto:eas@gmail.com>> wrote: I suspect Fossil folks will appreciate this :-) http://xkcd.com/1597/ http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/227b837a6c686972 :) -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal "Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] SHA1 and security
I thought this topic was beat to death a couple times already. Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Why Hash
What are the items that are used to calculate the hash? Is the hash salted? Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- On 9/14/2015 10:53 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Warren Young <w...@etr-usa.com <mailto:w...@etr-usa.com>> wrote: output, and Fossil would be free to switch to a different algorithm later if that seemed like a good idea. Indeed, fossil's model allows any hash to be used, but it is not possible to change the hash without a near-complete overhaul of fossil (and its docs), nor without invalidating every repo in existence, so it's highly unlikely to ever happen. Supporting two hash variants in one fossil binary would likely prove to be problematic (and would require a major overhaul). And indeed, maybe it is a good idea, since SHA-1 is nearing its EOL for cryptographic use: https://www.google.com/?q=sha-1%20end%20of%20life Fossil does not use it in a cryptographic context, so i would argue that that's not relevant for fossil's continued use. Fossil only uses sha-1 to define/determine content identity. (There are long threads somewhere in the list archives about the changes of hash collision. Management summary: not likely to happen for many human generations.) -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal "Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] merge after cherrypick plus edit does not identify GCA as I would like
a sideways question on this topic. Assume in my C editor I run the code formatter operation which indents and parses certain tokens for cosmetic, but not functional, changes in the file. By parsing I mean operations such as adding/removing linefeeds before/after a token such as a bracket or semicolon, and removing/adding blanks lines and spaces. Will the merge and diff operations see the file as completely changed? Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- On 9/15/2015 5:13 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 9/15/15, Eric Rubin-Smith <eas@gmail.com> wrote: The merge algorithm does *not* consider cherry-picks. It looks for the most recent common ancestor without taking cherry-picks into account. Another popular version control tool whose name I won't mention (hint: rhymes with "zit") behaves identically to fossil in this scenario. Is there some deeper reason for not using the cherry pick "arrow", or is it simply that yall haven't had a need to improve the behavior here yet so haven't bothered? Merge is done by a classic 3-way diff. It looks at all the changes that occurred on the path from A to B and applies those same changes to C. (A in this case would be the most recent common ancestor of B and C). How would cherry-picks factor into this? ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] diff after update
diff --erent or diff --erance Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com On 9/11/2015 10:27 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 9/11/15, Warren Young <w...@etr-usa.com> wrote: diff --undo sounds like you’re asking it to undo the diff, which makes no sense. I agree. I'm just having trouble coming up with an alternative. How does “fossil diff --last” strike you? Still a little generic, I think, but moving in the right direction. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Why Hash
I am getting confuzzled. Could someone explain the difference between a leaf, branch, and fork. Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- On 9/11/2015 1:04 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote: On 11 September 2015 at 17:13, Noam Postavsky <npost...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Michal Suchanek <hramr...@gmail.com> wrote: On 10 September 2015 at 19:23, Noam Postavsky <npost...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: For example see figure 3 of http://fossil-scm.org/xfer/doc/trunk/www/branching.wiki Both check-ins 3 and 4 are equidistant from the root. And each is on a differnt branch. This is a fork, not an intentional branch, so both sides are on the same branch. Figure 4 shows intentional branching. That does not really matter. Intentional or not it is a branch and has to be merged before both commits appear on the same branch. Then they both get unique number, too. Thanks Michal ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] diff after update
diff --erence misspelled it Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com On 9/11/2015 10:38 AM, Scott Doctor wrote: diff --erent or diff --erance Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com On 9/11/2015 10:27 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 9/11/15, Warren Young <w...@etr-usa.com> wrote: diff --undo sounds like you’re asking it to undo the diff, which makes no sense. I agree. I'm just having trouble coming up with an alternative. How does “fossil diff --last” strike you? Still a little generic, I think, but moving in the right direction. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Why Hash
Why does Fossil use a hash for an entries identity instead of sequential numbering? Seems simply using the rowid of the associated database table would be more meaningful and practical than those long strings of arbitrary numbers. -- Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com - ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Modifying button bar
I am new to using Fossil, so I created a dummy project to play with the various features. For the most part I think Fossil is a huge improvement over the alternatives. I can see using this as my support website framework along with handling development issues., which leads me to the following question. How do I change the button bar? While the home-timeline-files- entries are fine for the base operations, what I want is an easy way to customize that bar. Mainly for the first page or custom wiki pages. I can hack the pages code, but that is not a preferred way to do that. So simply, how can I customize the buttons on the button bar at the top of the page to use my combination of button, or to add/remove a button? Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Modifying button bar
Hmm. I guess that will work. but would be nice to have a simple GUI-ish type editor where I just have a list in order of appearance that is the name of the button and its link, instead of basically hacking code, thereby isolating language syntax from the user. I see it working as such. User wants to add (or delete) a button. Clicks ADD BUTTON button. Prompt for name of button, prompt for link or select from tree (I think tree is better). the appropriate code is then inserted into the HTML where the user never sees the underlying code. Scott Doctor sc...@scottdoctor.com -- On 8/31/2015 10:51 AM, Warren Young wrote: On Aug 31, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Scott Doctor <sc...@scottdoctor.com> wrote: how can I customize the buttons on the button bar at the top of the page Admin -> Skins -> Header. That gets you a text editor containing the current HTML + TH1 code combination that generates the header portion of each page Fossil serves. The footer and CSS files also play into it. If you want to dig deeper into it, the stock skins are in the skins subidrectory of the Fossil code repo. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
