Re: [fossil-users] Providing fossil as a vcs, wiki or blog for 'users'

2011-11-16 Thread Remigiusz Modrzejewski

On Nov 13, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Julian Fagir wrote:

 For people who dislike fossil as a wiki or vcs, there are still other
 solutions, but they're not automated, so that wouldn't stop me.
 
 So, my question: Do you think fossil is appropriate?

As a vcs yes. The ticketing system needs some setup to fit my taste, but that's 
not hard. But, sadly, the wiki is way too simplistic to be practical. But this 
probably will be resolved one day.

 As I said, I'm relatively new to fossil, and may not have tried out all
 features.
 Would you have security concerns about that?

Nope, Fossil is not dangerous to the machine it runs on. You can put it into 
chroot to feel extra safe in case of security breach.

 And do you have any suggestions what might help me with that?
 Are there standard settings you would suggest?

Look into WAL mode for the database.


Kind regards,
Remigiusz Modrzejewski



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Re: [fossil-users] Providing fossil as a vcs, wiki or blog for 'users'

2011-11-16 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Remigiusz Modrzejewski l...@maxnet.org.pl
 wrote:

 As a vcs yes. The ticketing system needs some setup to fit my taste, but
 that's not hard. But, sadly, the wiki is way too simplistic to be
 practical. But this probably will be resolved one day.


Actually the JSON API is far enough along that a completely custom wiki
could be based on it, using one's own custom wiki syntax, provided a
client-side renderer is available for it. The user management and wiki APIs
are feature-complete enough to support this, and implementing a
proof-of-concept for this is on my (long) list of TODOs for the JSON API.
The only (IMO) significantly missing feature in this area is the ability to
get historical versions of the wiki pages - currently we only serve the
latest version in the JSON API (fixing that is of course also on the TODO
list).

 As I said, I'm relatively new to fossil, and may not have tried out all
  features.
  Would you have security concerns about that?

 Nope, Fossil is not dangerous to the machine it runs on. You can put it
 into chroot to feel extra safe in case of security breach.


i'll second that heartily. Fossil requires no special privileges, and can
run as an arbitrary unprivileged user provided that user has access to the
repo file and the dir containing it.

-- 
- stephan beal
http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/
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Re: [fossil-users] Providing fossil as a vcs, wiki or blog for 'users'

2011-11-16 Thread Remigiusz Modrzejewski

On Nov 16, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Stephan Beal wrote:

 As a vcs yes. The ticketing system needs some setup to fit my taste, but
 that's not hard. But, sadly, the wiki is way too simplistic to be
 practical. But this probably will be resolved one day.
 
 
 Actually the JSON API is far enough along that a completely custom wiki
 could be based on it, using one's own custom wiki syntax, provided a
 client-side renderer is available for it. The user management and wiki APIs
 are feature-complete enough to support this, and implementing a
 proof-of-concept for this is on my (long) list of TODOs for the JSON API.
 The only (IMO) significantly missing feature in this area is the ability to
 get historical versions of the wiki pages - currently we only serve the
 latest version in the JSON API (fixing that is of course also on the TODO
 list).

Actually, I'm not sure if that's that good idea. This way you can bring client 
incompatibility, unless you mean writing in a better markup, but saving (and 
loading from) the plain Fossil thingy. It surely can be done, just is not as 
trivial as we'd like it to be.

Kind regards,
Remigiusz Modrzejewski



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Re: [fossil-users] Providing fossil as a vcs, wiki or blog for 'users'

2011-11-14 Thread Ron Wilson
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Julian Fagir listensamm...@komkon2.de wrote:

 So, my question: Do you think fossil is appropriate?

It really depends on your and your customers' needs. It works well for
decent number of projects. Certainly has has served the needs of the
projects my coworkers and I work on. I was able to implement a few
features we wanted through Fossil's built in scripting language.

Really, only you can determine of it meets your needs. As you continue
to explore its features, you should become obvious whether it will
meet your needs. In some cases, you can find solutions (or partial
solutions) either on this list, or in the Fossil cook book.

Good Luck.
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[fossil-users] Providing fossil as a vcs, wiki or blog for 'users'

2011-11-13 Thread Julian Fagir
Hi,

I'm somewhat new to fossil, but I'm absolutely astonished by the features it
provides despite its simplicity.

I'd like to provide fossil for our (ISPs) users because of its ease of
automation:
 1. fossil init
 2. fossil user password
 3. Generate DNS records, config and CGI for webserver

Users would access the repository only via http or https, but they can also
(though not automatically) get shell access.
This way, we could simply provide an automated wiki and vcs creation.

For people who dislike fossil as a wiki or vcs, there are still other
solutions, but they're not automated, so that wouldn't stop me.

So, my question: Do you think fossil is appropriate?
As I said, I'm relatively new to fossil, and may not have tried out all
features.
Would you have security concerns about that?
And do you have any suggestions what might help me with that?
Are there standard settings you would suggest?


Regards, Julian
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