Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On Fri, 1 May 2015 14:34:46 -0400 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: We need the signed Contributors Agreement (CA) so that we can prove that your code is open source if that fact is ever disputed. All CAs are kept in a (physical) file in the firesafe here at the SQLite.org headquarters. The CA says, in essence, yes my contributions to this project are open-source too. CAs are common practice for all (non-GPL) open-source software. You must sign a CA before contributing to any apache foundation project, for example. Print the document onto paper, then sign the piece of paper, then scan the paper and email me the scan. Richard, sorry, but I will not sign this CA. This way, using or not this skin is only up to you. My task was to create it and to release it under Free, Open Source license. This is the way open source community works, at least from my point of view. I created separate repository for the skin, with explicitly specified license: http://chiselapp.com/user/johnfound/repository/ProgrammersClassic/index If someone wants to use it, simply clone it. Best Regards! -- http://fresh.flatassembler.net http://asm32.info John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On 5/4/15, John Found johnfo...@asm32.info wrote: Richard, sorry, but I will not sign this CA. OK. Thanks for letting me know. We'll miss having your new skin as a standard part of Fossil... -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On Thu, 30 Apr 2015 15:05:57 -0700 jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 April 2015 at 14:57, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: I like it. The maximum width of the main text area (the paper) is a little low, so I see a lot of border background. (my browser width is set for websites with sidebars on both sides, like Gmail) It's a cool skin but I agree with Ron: http://fresh.flatassembler.net/fossil/repo/fresh/wdiff?name=Fresh+IDEa=6759 The problem with the above example was a missing overflow: auto style. It is fixed now. But the problem with the paper width still exists. But this is a very common problem in the web design with the wide screen displays. On the one hand, increasing the width, you are increasing the use of the screen area which is good. On the other hand, the readability of the plain text articles decreases for very wide texts. Anyway, for the purposes of source code management, the screen use is more important, so I removed the max-width and now the paper will occupy the whole screen. Regards -- http://fresh.flatassembler.net http://asm32.info John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On Fri, 1 May 2015 10:10:36 -0400 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Off-list reply. Do we have a CA for you on file? If not, can you send one in (https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/trunk/www/copyright-release.html) so that we can add your new skin as one of the options in standard Fossil builds? -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org The skin itself is open-source, so you can freely use it. I am not sure where I have to write the license, but it is permissive and compatible with BSD. But there are some technical problems. I used some tricks that will make it hard to pack the skin as a stand alone skin for Fossil. For example, it uses images attached to a wiki article. Embedding these images to the CSS will not be convenient, because of their size. -- http://fresh.flatassembler.net http://asm32.info John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On 5/1/15, John Found johnfo...@asm32.info wrote: I missed the point here. Probably my English... It is open source. Why I have to sign this CA document? In addition, I can't sign it because I don't use PGP and don't have private/public key at all. We need the signed Contributors Agreement (CA) so that we can prove that your code is open source if that fact is ever disputed. All CAs are kept in a (physical) file in the firesafe here at the SQLite.org headquarters. The CA says, in essence, yes my contributions to this project are open-source too. CAs are common practice for all (non-GPL) open-source software. You must sign a CA before contributing to any apache foundation project, for example. Print the document onto paper, then sign the piece of paper, then scan the paper and email me the scan. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On Fri, 1 May 2015 12:46:46 -0400 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: If you will just sign and send in a Fossil CA, I can then pull your code. Then we can figure out what enhancements are needed in Fossil to make it convenient to use your skin without using dirty tricks like putting images in Wiki attachments. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org I missed the point here. Probably my English... It is open source. Why I have to sign this CA document? In addition, I can't sign it because I don't use PGP and don't have private/public key at all. -- http://fresh.flatassembler.net http://asm32.info John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On 30/04/15 22:12, John Found wrote: On Fri, 1 May 2015 00:03:01 +0300 John Found johnfo...@asm32.info wrote: Well, the first version of my new skin is ready and uploaded. I named it ProgrammingClassic. And the URL is: http://fresh.flatassembler.net/fossil/repo/fresh It is published below, but I decided to post it explicitly. Wow, that is fab, I like it a lot. Thanks for posting the link. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On Fri, 1 May 2015 10:43:45 +0200 Martin S. Weber ephae...@gmx.net wrote: By giving the user the control over the width of the rendered page back by making it a function of the browser's client width, the user can easily adjust the width of the browser for prose reading, often with a single keystroke (e.g. on windows, win+{left,right}, for me on awesome it mostly is one keystroke, sometimes two, depending on my active tags etc., but I digress). This is more user-friendly than deciding an optimal reading width for them (that may or may not pay attention to user-styles, user-selected fonts, one of the ways a document can be scaled on the user-end, etc.), so here's a tip to the hat for you: *. Well, maybe it is a bad practice, but my browser is always maximized. Also, all people I know maximize their browsers... -- http://fresh.flatassembler.net http://asm32.info John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On 2015-05-01 4:43, Martin S. Weber wrote: This is more user-friendly than deciding an optimal reading width for them (that may or may not pay attention to user-styles, user-selected fonts, one of the ways a document can be scaled on the user-end, etc.), so here's a tip to the hat for you: *. +100 People have different hardware; use their systems differently; configure their systems differently; run different sets of applications. Let users decide how big the window should be for their usage and preferences, both for browsers and for GUI apps. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On 2015-05-01 11:58:30, John Found wrote: (...) Well, maybe it is a bad practice, but my browser is always maximized. Also, all people I know maximize their browsers... Which is why I was saying, one keystroke and you're ready for prose-reading-mode, but the other way around, there's no way for you to reach that. If your windowing environment STILL doesn't support at least basic tiling, it's time to change ;) Regards, -Martin ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On Fri, 01 May 2015 08:49:30 -0400 Doug Franklin nutdriverle...@comcast.net wrote: On 2015-05-01 4:43, Martin S. Weber wrote: This is more user-friendly than deciding an optimal reading width for them (that may or may not pay attention to user-styles, user-selected fonts, one of the ways a document can be scaled on the user-end, etc.), so here's a tip to the hat for you: *. +100 People have different hardware; use their systems differently; configure their systems differently; run different sets of applications. Let users decide how big the window should be for their usage and preferences, both for browsers and for GUI apps. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users I agree and you can see that my skin scales pretty good for the different window sizes. But my observations are that the majority of the users use the browser in one single mode - maximized. This way, it is good for the web designer to take into consideration this fact, instead to blame his visitors to not use the computer in a proper way. -- http://fresh.flatassembler.net http://asm32.info John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
Well, the first version of my new skin is ready and uploaded. I named it ProgrammingClassic. I am not sure it can be used as a general purpose skin, because it depends of some images attached to wiki article, i.e. contains other elements than CSS, Header and Footer elements (some images). But maybe the ideas can be useful for someone. Any opinions about improvements are welcome. Regards. On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:24:29 +0300 John Found johnfo...@asm32.info wrote: I am trying to make fossil repository [2] to look like the home site of the project [1], but unfortunately in order to make the borders as on the site, I need div.content to has transparent background. In the same time, the background of the page must be white. In [1] I made it by using div.paper that contain no text and only serve to provide the proper border. It has transparent background and border-image with transparency (the tractor holes). All elements contained in div.paper have margin:0px in order to not have transparent gaps. Unfortunately, in the fossil generated HTML, the div.content element contains some text, not enclosed in any tags. This way, I can't make this text background white and it remains transparent. Any ideas how to make the trick? Is it possible at all? [1] http://fresh.flatassembler.net/ [2] http://fresh.flatassembler.net/fossil/repo/fresh/index -- John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users -- http://fresh.flatassembler.net http://asm32.info John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On Fri, 1 May 2015 00:03:01 +0300 John Found johnfo...@asm32.info wrote: Well, the first version of my new skin is ready and uploaded. I named it ProgrammingClassic. And the URL is: http://fresh.flatassembler.net/fossil/repo/fresh It is published below, but I decided to post it explicitly. I am not sure it can be used as a general purpose skin, because it depends of some images attached to wiki article, i.e. contains other elements than CSS, Header and Footer elements (some images). But maybe the ideas can be useful for someone. Any opinions about improvements are welcome. Regards. On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:24:29 +0300 John Found johnfo...@asm32.info wrote: I am trying to make fossil repository [2] to look like the home site of the project [1], but unfortunately in order to make the borders as on the site, I need div.content to has transparent background. In the same time, the background of the page must be white. In [1] I made it by using div.paper that contain no text and only serve to provide the proper border. It has transparent background and border-image with transparency (the tractor holes). All elements contained in div.paper have margin:0px in order to not have transparent gaps. Unfortunately, in the fossil generated HTML, the div.content element contains some text, not enclosed in any tags. This way, I can't make this text background white and it remains transparent. Any ideas how to make the trick? Is it possible at all? [1] http://fresh.flatassembler.net/ [2] http://fresh.flatassembler.net/fossil/repo/fresh/index -- John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users -- http://fresh.flatassembler.net http://asm32.info John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users -- http://fresh.flatassembler.net http://asm32.info John Found johnfo...@asm32.info ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 5:03 PM, John Found johnfo...@asm32.info wrote: Well, the first version of my new skin is ready and uploaded. I named it ProgrammingClassic. Any opinions about improvements are welcome. I like it. The maximum width of the main text area (the paper) is a little low, so I see a lot of border background. (my browser width is set for websites with sidebars on both sides, like Gmail) ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Skin almost finished.
On 30 April 2015 at 14:57, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 5:03 PM, John Found johnfo...@asm32.info wrote: Well, the first version of my new skin is ready and uploaded. I named it ProgrammingClassic. Any opinions about improvements are welcome. I like it. The maximum width of the main text area (the paper) is a little low, so I see a lot of border background. (my browser width is set for websites with sidebars on both sides, like Gmail) It's a cool skin but I agree with Ron: http://fresh.flatassembler.net/fossil/repo/fresh/wdiff?name=Fresh+IDEa=6759 -- --- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboo...@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boo...@jit.si ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users