Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Please feel free to contribute design ideas or implementation suggestions. What comes to mind: - with a bit of JS it could be made interactive (collapsible/openable) - it could be a supplement or replacement for the /dir view, with the links working like they do now for /dir. - it might not be practical for repos with many thousands of files (then again, maybe it would be especially useful on such repos). On a related note: i had intended to add an ls -1 style output to /dir over the holidays (based on an ML suggestion back in November), but the hydraulic part of my computer chair is failing and the chair now sinks to the floor when i sit it for more than a few minutes, so i won't be doing any notable hacking until i get a replacement chair or can figure out how to fix this one. (God bless tablets, otherwise i'd be almost completely offline!) -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, 30 Dec, Stephan Beal wrote: - it might not be practical for repos with many thousands of files (then again, maybe it would be especially useful on such repos). If you open collapsed by default, this should not be a problem as you can drill down the path you're interested in without having thousands of files being displayed at once. -- Stefan Bellon ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On 30 December 2013 20:12, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Wouldn't it be nice to have a tree view of the files under control, similar to this: http://www.sqlite.org/customandroid/doc/trunk/www/tree.wiki ... Please feel free to contribute design ideas or implementation suggestions. As for the visual appearance: what would be very useful already for me is a clear visual difference between a dir- and file-name (in any file-manager, for that matter). I agree with Stephan's comment that it might be less useful for repos with many files (which I have here). Perhaps a 'show as tree' (or 'tree') link, showing a dir-tree with currently displayed flat directory as root would be useful. Michai ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On 30 December 2013 20:41, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Please feel free to contribute design ideas or implementation suggestions. What comes to mind: - with a bit of JS it could be made interactive (collapsible/openable) I'm not a greybeard console-only type, but occasionally use 'links' to browse fossil repos; perhaps JS collapse/expand should not get too much in the way there. Or if I'm the only links-/lynx-user out there, go ahead :) Michai ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Michai Ramakers m.ramak...@gmail.comwrote: I'm not a greybeard console-only type, but occasionally use 'links' to browse fossil repos; perhaps JS collapse/expand should not get too much in the way there. Or if I'm the only links-/lynx-user out there, go ahead :) AFAIR, we have no (important/major) functionality which _requires_ JS in order to work. There are some bits which benefit from it (e.g. try clicking on two of the little boxes in the timeline, and the wysiwyg editor), but nothing major which relies on it. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Stefan Bellon sbel...@sbellon.de wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec, Stephan Beal wrote: - it might not be practical for repos with many thousands of files (then again, maybe it would be especially useful on such repos). If you open collapsed by default, this should not be a problem as you can drill down the path you're interested in without having thousands of files being displayed at once. i was thinking more about the computational cost of generating the list, not actually the rendering (which certainly wouldn't be really usable for 1 files). Generating that list must be done at one time, and delivered in the HTML response, unless the feature is AJAX-based (so far we have no AJAX-based functionality in the default build). -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
Thus said Stephan Beal on Mon, 30 Dec 2013 20:41:38 +0100: On a related note: i had intended to add an ls -1 style output to /dir over the holidays (based on an ML suggestion back in November), Isn't this already possible with CSS? Thanks, Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 400052c1dcd7 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 21:25:36 +0100 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Michai Ramakers m.ramak...@gmail.comwrote: I'm not a greybeard console-only type, but occasionally use 'links' to browse fossil repos; perhaps JS collapse/expand should not get too much in the way there. Or if I'm the only links-/lynx-user out there, go ahead :) AFAIR, we have no (important/major) functionality which _requires_ JS in order to work. There are some bits which benefit from it (e.g. try clicking on two of the little boxes in the timeline, and the wysiwyg editor), but nothing major which relies on it. Unless it's something else causing it here, clicking anything in the timeline without javascript enabled will take you to the honeypot... I've gotten used to browsing fossil repositories with javascript enabled as too much breaks without it. M ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.orgwrote: Thus said Stephan Beal on Mon, 30 Dec 2013 20:41:38 +0100: On a related note: i had intended to add an ls -1 style output to /dir over the holidays (based on an ML suggestion back in November), Isn't this already possible with CSS? Partially - i'd actually like to do something more akin to (ls -la). A simple single-column list could (it seems) be done with CSS. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.comwrote: Partially - i'd actually like to do something more akin to (ls -la). A simple single-column list could (it seems) be done with CSS. i spoke too soon - the columns are done with TDs, and CSS isn't enough to make those single-column. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:04 PM, org.fossil-scm.fossil-us...@io7m.comwrote: Unless it's something else causing it here, clicking anything in the timeline without javascript enabled will take you to the honeypot... I've gotten used to browsing fossil repositories with javascript enabled as too much breaks without it. It's apparently not detecting your browser as human - fossil tries to curtail access by anything which it thinks might be a bot. One of the reasons (if not the main reason) is to keep bots from crawling the timeline history and downloading a full ZIP copy of every version of the repo. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 4:04 PM, org.fossil-scm.fossil-us...@io7m.comwrote: Unless it's something else causing it here, clicking anything in the timeline without javascript enabled will take you to the honeypot... I've gotten used to browsing fossil repositories with javascript enabled as too much breaks without it. This is a defense against spiders trying to index the entire repository, and downloading all possible diffs between any two check-ins, all possible annotations, all possible historical tarballs and ZIP archives, and so forth, and thereby soaking up far more than their fair share of CPU cycles and bandwidth. Further information here: http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/tip/www/antibot.wiki You can disable the robot defenses by logging in using username anonymous. Note also that the timeline graph is drawn using javascript, and so if you have javascript disabled, you do not see the timeline graph at all. There is no work-around for this second problem. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
Stephan Beal wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com mailto:sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: Partially - i'd actually like to do something more akin to (ls -la). A simple single-column list could (it seems) be done with CSS. i spoke too soon - the columns are done with TDs, and CSS isn't enough to make those single-column. Is there a glitch in the Matrix? ;) http://www.mail-archive.com/fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org/msg13955.html ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Joel Bruick j...@joelface.com wrote: Stephan Beal wrote: i spoke too soon - the columns are done with TDs, and CSS isn't enough to make those single-column. Is there a glitch in the Matrix? ;) http://www.mail-archive.com/fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org/msg13955.html Good find! Once again, it is proven that i have the memory of a goldfish! -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 22:25:58 +0100 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: It's apparently not detecting your browser as human... On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 16:28:17 -0500 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: This is a defense against spiders trying to index the entire repository, Oh, I'm aware, don't worry. I was specifically commenting on the statement: AFAIR, we have no (important/major) functionality which _requires_ JS in order to work. ... Which isn't strictly true in the default setup. Browsing a fossil repository with default settings with javascript disabled is not a great experience. I see how the original statement can be taken more than one way though. I'll shut up now. M ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed Fossil interface enhancement.
Thus said Stephan Beal on Mon, 30 Dec 2013 22:34:24 +0100: Good find! Once again, it is proven that i have the memory of a goldfish! Hence my suggestion on the other thread that we have some skins that actually represent these things. I too forget them and have to continually search the archives. One day I may forget which search terms I need to enter. :-) Perhaps a skin called: Default Single Column Files And another for the / at the end of directories listings: Default ls -F Style Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 400052c1ea98 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
