Re: [Foundation-l] Board elections email adding insult to injury

2009-08-09 Thread Al Tally
Maybe this is related?

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#Unable_to_vote_in_trustees_election

I don't want to seem rude, as I'm sure it's difficult and I understand the
election committee are volunteers, but why is it that things seem to be
going wrong this year?

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Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-09 Thread Al Tally
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi!

  I have a question on this for the tech team: as a rule, do you have a
  high turnover of volunteers on the sysadmin ...

 turn-what?
 Jens is building a house or something, if that was your question.

 Domas


A high turnover rate would indicate a lot of people joining and leaving,
instead of long-term volunteers.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Ombudsman commission

2009-07-27 Thread Al Tally
This is strange - in times past, we have had only 3 ombudsmen at a time, and
now we have five. Are they all fairly active? Do they want to continue this
role? Have they all been contacted? I notice, for example, that the enwiki
based ombudsman, Sam Korn, has made just one edit this month. I think for a
role like this, it is necessary to be more active than that.


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Re: [Foundation-l] Ombudsman commission

2009-07-27 Thread Al Tally
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Al Tallymajorly.w...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  I notice, for example, that the enwiki
  based ombudsman, Sam Korn, has made just one edit this month. I think for
 a
  role like this, it is necessary to be more active than that.
 

 I wouldn't necessarily define active by edits in this role, but I
 definitely agree with you that I haven't seen much activity anywhere
 from the members...

 --
 Casey Brown
 Cbrown1023


Depends. Lack of activity could easily indicate business in real life.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Al Tally
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) 
newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is an Elections Committee being appointed, or has one been?

 Newyorkbrad


Yes, see
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009/Committee/en#Membership

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Re: [Foundation-l] Take a look at the latest rep watches

2009-05-05 Thread Al Tally
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:


 Why would you let this spam through?


Someone let it through?

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[Foundation-l] Non-free content on Commons

2009-03-31 Thread Al Tally
Hi all

I just came across this[1] policy on Commons, which states that from today,
non-free content is going to be allowed to be uploaded on Commons. I'm
rather shocked that this was pushed through without any notice here, or
anywhere, and it has become policy, going against Wikimedia's free content
philosophy. Can people please input on the talk page as soon as possible
please, so we can get this reversed.

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[1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Non-free_content
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Re: [Foundation-l] Non-free content on Commons

2009-03-31 Thread Al Tally
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:59 AM, David Levy lifeisunf...@gmail.com wrote:

  April's fools alredy? *sigh*

 Apparently.  As I have no desire to have my time wasted by such abuse
 of the mailing list, I've created a filter to delete any future
 e-mails from Al Tally (with whom my interactions have been uniformly
 negative).


Hey, some people just lack a sense of humour. David Levy is one of them.
Happy April 1 everyone else :)

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Re: [Foundation-l] Simple English Encyclopedia

2009-02-23 Thread Al Tally
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Brian Salter-Duke b_d...@bigpond.com.auwrote:

 They know about it because of [[Template:Bulletin/News]] on Simple. As
 far as I can see the place(s) that this is transcuded are the only
 places. The question however is how does a Simple WP editor who never
 normally goes to meta know that s/he has to credential themselves before
 they can !vote on this proposal? I fail to see how they can easily. Yes,
 it is on meta somewhere but how would they get to read that? The whole
 process is not really open to them.


It was also announced on Simple talk, the Wikipedia's community page; if an
editor does not know that it is usually required to provide a link to a home
wiki, they can be asked to provide a link. It's not a problem. I don't know
where you get the idea that the process isn't open.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Simple English Encyclopedia

2009-02-23 Thread Al Tally
Proposals to close Simple English projects are like the perennial proposals
of Wikipedia: not going to happen. As long as a project has an active
community, there really is no good reason to close a project. OK, Simple
English might not meet current standards for language, but it has an active
community, and uprooting that for the sake of some policy seems
unproductive.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Simple English Encyclopedia

2009-02-23 Thread Al Tally
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is wrong; the Siberian Wikipedia had an active userbase but was
 closed because it was deemed to be in a fake language.


As long as a project has an active community, there really is no good reason
to close a project.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Simple English Encyclopedia

2009-02-23 Thread Al Tally
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:

 A further argument against having this principally discussed on Meta is
 that those who are best served by Simple do not have the language skills
 to participate fully in a discussion where there is unlimited use of
 language.

 Ec


Meta is a multilingual wiki - though English tends to be used as the lingua
franca.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Simple English Encyclopedia

2009-02-23 Thread Al Tally
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:

 The question of how such a discussion would be closed is what concerns me
 the most - I can't see allowing a meta bureaucrat to close such a poll
 (which is what we would do in en.wp), and since the Foundation would have
 to
 make the changes anyway... Would it be interpreted, then, by a developer?

 Nathan


Normally they are closed by Meta-wiki regulars, who all happen to be trusted
to some extent on Meta and elsewhere. I'd probably give a discussion like
this to a steward to close. Really though, any trusted person who hasn't
voted can close it.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Steward elections: summary, week one

2009-02-09 Thread Al Tally
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de wrote:

 I dislike this argument very much...


You were expecting good arguments? :)

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Re: [Foundation-l] Call for participation in Epistemia, a new wiki encyclopedia

2009-02-03 Thread Al Tally
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:

 Your initial announcement was fine. Continuing to spam is not.

 Fred


Agreed, please don't spam here further.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Call for participation in Epistemia, a new wiki encyclopedia

2009-02-03 Thread Al Tally
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Patton 123 patton...@gmail.com wrote:

 Basically you've just said we're going to be just like wikipdia except we
 won't let incivlity, personal attacks and other bad stuff like that
 happen.
 How will you stop it? Blocking? Then you're just like wikipedia.


No, removing uncivil editors will stop incivility.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Checkuser ombudsmen

2009-01-21 Thread Al Tally
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 In accordance with the recent board decision to increase the number of
 ombudsmen from 3 to 5, we have appointed the following users as
 successor ombudsmen.

 [[User:Schiste]] from frwiki
 [[User:PatrĂ­ciaR]] from commonswiki
 [[User:Tinz]] from dewiki
 [[User:Sam Korn]] from enwiki
 [[User:Shizhao]] from zhwiki

 Please join me in thanking Rebecca, Mackensen, and Hei ber for their
 willingness to take on this commitment over the course of the last year.

 Cary Bass
 Volunteer Coordinator
 Wikimedia Foundation


Thanks to the three former ombudsmen, and congratulations of the
appointments of these five people. Excellent choices, and I'm pleased to see
more of a variety of projects involved, instead of mostly from enwiki.

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