[Foundation-l] Inviting some 'outsider candidates' into the movement in the way they wanted

2011-06-12 Thread Alec Conroy
A few candidates are what I might call 'outsider candidates' in that
they weren't well known across projects before the election and thus
may not be likely to win election to such a democratically-elected
position--  but they seem to have quite a lot to offer us.

If they are elected, we'll have their skills and their contributions
at the foundation level.   But why deprive ourselves of their skills
and contributions at the foundation level just because they weren't a
perfect fit for board member?

To me, this question was prompted by the skills of  Jane S. Richardson
(Dcrjsr) and William H. DuBay (Bdubay).   Both have special expertise,
both propose specific projects that I think are utterly
non-controversial and they don't necessarily need the 'full force of
the office' to help the foundation with them.

An election is always an emotional risk, not winning sometimes feels
like a rejection.  For most candidates, they're already 'hooked in' to
our movement and I hope and expect that the election results won't
deter them from further participation.   For Dcrjsr and Bdubay, if
they aren't elected, we might want to take the extra effort to make
sure that they get what they need to still contribute at the
foundation level--  Perhaps have someone from
foundation/staff/leadership actively work with them to help them find
their role within the movement.

Dcrjsr's a scientist, and free content desperately wants to capture
science and scientists in particular.  WM's well-positioned to help
enable this revolution-already-in-progress away from 'closed'
journals.  Science is one of our key specialties, the place where our
projects shine, and I feel like Dcrjsr could be very helpful in a
million unforeseen ways through her experience in this sphere.  If she
isn't elected, perhaps we could ask her to become our science liason
/ ambassador.

Bdubay similarly cites a background in readability consulting and
expertise on communications across languages.   If this election has
shown anything, it's that we definitely could use more communications
skills.   He's interested in working on a Plain Language project,
working with Simple Wikipedia, and improving readability.  If he's not
elected, perhaps the foundation/staff could ask him to study of how
our movement can improve inter-community communication? or something
similar?

These may not be the only two who we should consider actively
recruiting post-election, the list may not be exhaustive.   These
people volunteered to do an insane amount of work for us-- let's make
sure they understand you didn't win is absolutely NOT you're
fired--  and in fact, if we could 'hire' them into volunteer
positions at the movement level if they don't win, so much the better.

Alec

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Re: [Foundation-l] Inviting some 'outsider candidates' into the movement in the way they wanted

2011-06-12 Thread Thomas Dalton
Finding ways to get people involved in the movement that wouldn't
normally do so is definitely something we need to do (and are starting
to do, through various schemes - for example, the Campus Ambassadors
programme). Don't forget that we do already have routes onto the board
(chapter selected and expert seats) other than the elections for
precisely the reason that the elections don't necessary get the
breadth the board needs.

On 12 June 2011 20:12, Alec Conroy alecmcon...@gmail.com wrote:
 A few candidates are what I might call 'outsider candidates' in that
 they weren't well known across projects before the election and thus
 may not be likely to win election to such a democratically-elected
 position--  but they seem to have quite a lot to offer us.

 If they are elected, we'll have their skills and their contributions
 at the foundation level.   But why deprive ourselves of their skills
 and contributions at the foundation level just because they weren't a
 perfect fit for board member?

 To me, this question was prompted by the skills of  Jane S. Richardson
 (Dcrjsr) and William H. DuBay (Bdubay).   Both have special expertise,
 both propose specific projects that I think are utterly
 non-controversial and they don't necessarily need the 'full force of
 the office' to help the foundation with them.

 An election is always an emotional risk, not winning sometimes feels
 like a rejection.  For most candidates, they're already 'hooked in' to
 our movement and I hope and expect that the election results won't
 deter them from further participation.   For Dcrjsr and Bdubay, if
 they aren't elected, we might want to take the extra effort to make
 sure that they get what they need to still contribute at the
 foundation level--  Perhaps have someone from
 foundation/staff/leadership actively work with them to help them find
 their role within the movement.

 Dcrjsr's a scientist, and free content desperately wants to capture
 science and scientists in particular.  WM's well-positioned to help
 enable this revolution-already-in-progress away from 'closed'
 journals.  Science is one of our key specialties, the place where our
 projects shine, and I feel like Dcrjsr could be very helpful in a
 million unforeseen ways through her experience in this sphere.  If she
 isn't elected, perhaps we could ask her to become our science liason
 / ambassador.

 Bdubay similarly cites a background in readability consulting and
 expertise on communications across languages.   If this election has
 shown anything, it's that we definitely could use more communications
 skills.   He's interested in working on a Plain Language project,
 working with Simple Wikipedia, and improving readability.  If he's not
 elected, perhaps the foundation/staff could ask him to study of how
 our movement can improve inter-community communication? or something
 similar?

 These may not be the only two who we should consider actively
 recruiting post-election, the list may not be exhaustive.   These
 people volunteered to do an insane amount of work for us-- let's make
 sure they understand you didn't win is absolutely NOT you're
 fired--  and in fact, if we could 'hire' them into volunteer
 positions at the movement level if they don't win, so much the better.

 Alec

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Re: [Foundation-l] Inviting some 'outsider candidates' into the movement in the way they wanted

2011-06-12 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't forget that we do already have routes onto the board
 (chapter selected and expert seats) other than the elections for
 precisely the reason that the elections don't necessary get the
 breadth the board needs.

And now http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_visitors

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Re: [Foundation-l] Inviting some 'outsider candidates' into the movement in the way they wanted

2011-06-12 Thread Samuel Klein
This is a great point, Alec - something on my mind as well.   It is
great that we had such a diversity of candidates, and we need more
ways to invite people to participate in the future of the movement.

 To me, this question was prompted by the skills of  Jane S. Richardson
 (Dcrjsr) and William H. DuBay (Bdubay).   Both have special expertise,
 both propose specific projects that I think are utterly
 non-controversial and they don't necessarily need the 'full force of
 the office' to help the foundation with them.

Not only is it not needed, being on the Board of the Foundation may
not help such projects happen.  To realize a content-related project,
what is needed is a clear plan, and support from interested
participants.  Then you have something the Foundation can facilitate.
This is especially true in a movement like ours where the central
foundation plays a supporting role rather than a project-defining
role.

The closest thing I've seen to a specific request that talented people
help realize a project they care about is the advisory board for the
Public Policy initiative:
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/08/06/announcing-the-public-policy-initiative-advisory-board/

That has been active and successful, and may be sustainable after the
initial WMF-funded project moves on.  I would like to see something
like this in many subject areas, to help us improve [for inetance, in
literacy  readability, and in science in general].

 These may not be the only two who we should consider actively
 recruiting post-election, the list may not be exhaustive.   These
 people volunteered to do an insane amount of work for us

It would be good to have ways to engage all participants -- and others
who were following the election but for whatever reason not interested
in running -- in acting on the issues that people think and care about
when voting.  Again, most of the issues that people care about are
driven by community project decisions and roadmaps more than by the
opinions of Trustees on the Board.  Perhaps a 'clerking' process
during election season could help pull out related strategic issues as
they come up in discussion, and make progress towards resolving them.

SJ

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