Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-04 Thread Daniel Mietchen
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2 February 2012 00:31, Daniel Mietchen 
 daniel.mietc...@googlemail.comwrote:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Open_Knowledge_Foundation_Germany/Open_Access_Catalogue/OA_publishers/DOI_prefixes_entirely_OA

 THIS!

I had a first shot at it but it doesn't work as expected, even though
basically identical templates run just fine at another MediaWiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:GLAM/Open_Knowledge_Foundation_Germany/Open_Access_Catalogue/OA_publishers/DOI_prefixes_entirely_OAoldid=475025593#Tests
.

Any hints welcome.

Daniel

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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-04 Thread John Vandenberg
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Mietchen
daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2 February 2012 00:31, Daniel Mietchen 
 daniel.mietc...@googlemail.comwrote:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Open_Knowledge_Foundation_Germany/Open_Access_Catalogue/OA_publishers/DOI_prefixes_entirely_OA

 THIS!

 I had a first shot at it but it doesn't work as expected, even though
 basically identical templates run just fine at another MediaWiki:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:GLAM/Open_Knowledge_Foundation_Germany/Open_Access_Catalogue/OA_publishers/DOI_prefixes_entirely_OAoldid=475025593#Tests
 .

 Any hints welcome.

 Daniel

The problem and potential solution are explained here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:OA-ness

However adding those icons everywhere is a big change, and it needs to
be discussed on the project, e.g.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Citation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Academic_Journals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VPPRO

btw, the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany Open Access Catalogue
hosted on wikipedia seems to be replicating much of the work already
being done on the OAD wiki.

http://oad.simmons.edu/oadwiki/Main_Page

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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-04 Thread Daniel Mietchen
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:56 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem and potential solution are explained here
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:OA-ness
Thanks - I took one of the workarounds you pointed to, so
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Daniel_Mietchen/Sandboxoldid=475001832
now does what I wanted it to do.

 However adding those icons everywhere is a big change, and it needs to
 be discussed on the project, e.g.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Citation
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Academic_Journals
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VPPRO
Sure, though the discussion we are having here on the mailing list
looks like a good preparation for that.

I think the minimal variant that would make sense is just the flagging
of OA (of whatever kind) by way of the orange padlock. In the demo, I
have added in the CC logos for the license being used by that
publisher. This makes sense only for the rather few publishers (and
perhaps repositories) that have all their content under a CC license
(and preferably the same license for all articles). I do think it
makes sense to consider adding license as an additional field to
citation templates, but I am not convinced the icons (particularly at
the size in the demo) are the way to go. If we go that way, we could
also use doi-based (or similar) tools to determine the default for a
publisher or outlet, and allow it to be overwritten by entering a
different value in license (which would be especially useful for
hybrid journals but requires a lot of manual work).

I have also added the grey padlock for closed access (i.e. for cases
when the DOi provides no information about any potential OA-ness of
the reference at hand), and question marks to signal the need for a
check.

I am not yet convinced we should make wide-spread use of the grey
padlock icon, and the question marks could be replaced by something
more similar to existing maintenance templates.

 btw, the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany Open Access Catalogue
 hosted on wikipedia seems to be replicating much of the work already
 being done on the OAD wiki.

 http://oad.simmons.edu/oadwiki/Main_Page
Yes, but much of the OAD would be considered OR, whereas the Catalogue
serves - amongst other things - to facilitate the transfer of suitable
OAD information onto Wikimedia projects.

Thanks and cheers,

Daniel

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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-02 Thread Kat Walsh
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:19 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Chess Pie derby_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Looks like a braindead law.
 Does the foundation have a specific position on OpenAccess?

 The WMF as an entity doesn't have a specific position/policy, though
 in general we are squarely in the camp of OA supporters; but as Daniel
 noted the Research Committee is working on an OA policy for funded
 research studies, which I'm quite pleased about:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Committee/Areas_of_interest/Open-access_policy


Actually we do have an official position--we are signatories to the
Berlin Declaration on Open Access:

http://oa.mpg.de/berlin-prozess/berliner-erklarung/

which states that its supporters believe in the importance of open
access and work to promote it (the full document is actually pretty
nice).

-Kat

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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-02 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Kat Walsh k...@mindspillage.org wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:19 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Chess Pie derby_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Looks like a braindead law.
 Does the foundation have a specific position on OpenAccess?

 The WMF as an entity doesn't have a specific position/policy, though
 in general we are squarely in the camp of OA supporters; but as Daniel
 noted the Research Committee is working on an OA policy for funded
 research studies, which I'm quite pleased about:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Committee/Areas_of_interest/Open-access_policy


 Actually we do have an official position--we are signatories to the
 Berlin Declaration on Open Access:

 http://oa.mpg.de/berlin-prozess/berliner-erklarung/

 which states that its supporters believe in the importance of open
 access and work to promote it (the full document is actually pretty
 nice).

 -Kat

Right! I forgot about that. Thanks, Kat.
-- phoebe

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[Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Fred Bauder
Elsevier is emblematic of an abusive publishing industry. The
government pays me and other scientists to produce work, and we give it
away to private entities, says Brett S. Abrahams, an assistant professor
of genetics at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. Then they charge
us to read it. Mr. Abrahams signed the pledge on Tuesday after reading
about it on Facebook.

http://chronicle.com/article/As-Journal-Boycott-Grows/130600/

http://thecostofknowledge.com/

Elsevier has supported a proposed federal law, the Research Works Act
(HR 3699), that could prevent agencies like the National Institutes of
Health from making all articles written by grant recipients freely
available.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.03699:

Research Works Act - Prohibits a federal agency from adopting,
maintaining, continuing, or otherwise engaging in any policy, program, or
other activity that: (1) causes, permits, or authorizes network
dissemination of any private-sector research work without the prior
consent of the publisher; or (2) requires that any actual or prospective
author, or the author's employer, assent to such network dissemination.

Defines private-sector research work as an article intended to be
published in a scholarly or scientific publication, or any version of
such an article, that is not a work of the U.S. government, describing or
interpreting research funded in whole or in part by a federal agency and
to which a commercial or nonprofit publisher has made or has entered into
an arrangement to make a value-added contribution, including peer review
or editing, but does not include progress reports or raw data outputs
routinely required to be created for and submitted directly to a funding
agency in the course of research.

Fred


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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Fred Bauder
Another article:

http://chronicle.com/article/Who-Gets-to-See-Published/130403/

 Elsevier has supported a proposed federal law, the Research Works Act
 (HR 3699), that could prevent agencies like the National Institutes of
 Health from making all articles written by grant recipients freely
 available.

 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.03699:

 Research Works Act - Prohibits a federal agency from adopting,
 maintaining, continuing, or otherwise engaging in any policy, program, or
 other activity that: (1) causes, permits, or authorizes network
 dissemination of any private-sector research work without the prior
 consent of the publisher; or (2) requires that any actual or prospective
 author, or the author's employer, assent to such network dissemination.

 Defines private-sector research work as an article intended to be
 published in a scholarly or scientific publication, or any version of
 such an article, that is not a work of the U.S. government, describing or
 interpreting research funded in whole or in part by a federal agency and
 to which a commercial or nonprofit publisher has made or has entered into
 an arrangement to make a value-added contribution, including peer review
 or editing, but does not include progress reports or raw data outputs
 routinely required to be created for and submitted directly to a funding
 agency in the course of research.

 Fred


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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Andrea Zanni
I don't know if it's the case,
but it would be very interesting to have the Foundation
support officialy the campaign (single scholars can do decide to boycott,
of course).
But universal access to universal knowledge is pretty Open Access to me,
and this think is taking momentum,
hopefully will be effective.

Aubrey

2012/2/1 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net

 Another article:

 http://chronicle.com/article/Who-Gets-to-See-Published/130403/

  Elsevier has supported a proposed federal law, the Research Works Act
  (HR 3699), that could prevent agencies like the National Institutes of
  Health from making all articles written by grant recipients freely
  available.
 
  http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.03699:
 
  Research Works Act - Prohibits a federal agency from adopting,
  maintaining, continuing, or otherwise engaging in any policy, program, or
  other activity that: (1) causes, permits, or authorizes network
  dissemination of any private-sector research work without the prior
  consent of the publisher; or (2) requires that any actual or prospective
  author, or the author's employer, assent to such network dissemination.
 
  Defines private-sector research work as an article intended to be
  published in a scholarly or scientific publication, or any version of
  such an article, that is not a work of the U.S. government, describing or
  interpreting research funded in whole or in part by a federal agency and
  to which a commercial or nonprofit publisher has made or has entered into
  an arrangement to make a value-added contribution, including peer review
  or editing, but does not include progress reports or raw data outputs
  routinely required to be created for and submitted directly to a funding
  agency in the course of research.
 
  Fred
 
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Chess Pie
Looks like a braindead law.
Does the foundation have a specific position on OpenAccess?


- Original Message -
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To: fredb...@fairpoint.net; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List 
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

I don't know if it's the case,
but it would be very interesting to have the Foundation
support officialy the campaign (single scholars can do decide to boycott,
of course).
But universal access to universal knowledge is pretty Open Access to me,
and this think is taking momentum,
hopefully will be effective.

Aubrey

2012/2/1 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net

 Another article:

 http://chronicle.com/article/Who-Gets-to-See-Published/130403/

  Elsevier has supported a proposed federal law, the Research Works Act
  (HR 3699), that could prevent agencies like the National Institutes of
  Health from making all articles written by grant recipients freely
  available.
 
  http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.03699:
 
  Research Works Act - Prohibits a federal agency from adopting,
  maintaining, continuing, or otherwise engaging in any policy, program, or
  other activity that: (1) causes, permits, or authorizes network
  dissemination of any private-sector research work without the prior
  consent of the publisher; or (2) requires that any actual or prospective
  author, or the author's employer, assent to such network dissemination.
 
  Defines private-sector research work as an article intended to be
  published in a scholarly or scientific publication, or any version of
  such an article, that is not a work of the U.S. government, describing or
  interpreting research funded in whole or in part by a federal agency and
  to which a commercial or nonprofit publisher has made or has entered into
  an arrangement to make a value-added contribution, including peer review
  or editing, but does not include progress reports or raw data outputs
  routinely required to be created for and submitted directly to a funding
  agency in the course of research.
 
  Fred
 
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Andrea,

could you perhaps elaborate how exactly the Free Knowledge would benifit
from boycotting non-OA journals? (Not meant sarcastic, I really want to
know)

Also, how would you imagine such support? I could imagine that with any
support by Wikimedia for a boycott, people would assume automatically that
we would start blocking citations of said journals. Or are you thinking
about that Wikimedia related scholars are asked to public Open Access? (I
could imagine this is already the case)

In the past Wikimedia has always taken the stance that if people or
companies want to exercize their copyright within legal limits, we have no
objection to that (although we may challenge some of the legal limits).
Would you propose a standpoint that goes further than that? (because then,
it would imho certainly require much more community discussion before we
take such step)

Best regards,
Lodewijk

No dia 1 de Fevereiro de 2012 17:32, Andrea Zanni
zanni.andre...@gmail.comescreveu:

 I don't know if it's the case,
 but it would be very interesting to have the Foundation
 support officialy the campaign (single scholars can do decide to boycott,
 of course).
 But universal access to universal knowledge is pretty Open Access to me,
 and this think is taking momentum,
 hopefully will be effective.

 Aubrey

 2012/2/1 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net

  Another article:
 
  http://chronicle.com/article/Who-Gets-to-See-Published/130403/
 
   Elsevier has supported a proposed federal law, the Research Works Act
   (HR 3699), that could prevent agencies like the National Institutes of
   Health from making all articles written by grant recipients freely
   available.
  
   http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.03699:
  
   Research Works Act - Prohibits a federal agency from adopting,
   maintaining, continuing, or otherwise engaging in any policy, program,
 or
   other activity that: (1) causes, permits, or authorizes network
   dissemination of any private-sector research work without the prior
   consent of the publisher; or (2) requires that any actual or
 prospective
   author, or the author's employer, assent to such network dissemination.
  
   Defines private-sector research work as an article intended to be
   published in a scholarly or scientific publication, or any version of
   such an article, that is not a work of the U.S. government, describing
 or
   interpreting research funded in whole or in part by a federal agency
 and
   to which a commercial or nonprofit publisher has made or has entered
 into
   an arrangement to make a value-added contribution, including peer
 review
   or editing, but does not include progress reports or raw data outputs
   routinely required to be created for and submitted directly to a
 funding
   agency in the course of research.
  
   Fred
  
  
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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread David Richfield
If I understand the suggestion properly, the idea was not to stop
linking to articles in closed journals, but to find some meaningful
way to support the efforts of the researchers who are boycotting
closed journals (i.e. they are not publishing in them).

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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:27 PM, David Richfield
davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I understand the suggestion properly, the idea was not to stop
 linking to articles in closed journals, but to find some meaningful
 way to support the efforts of the researchers who are boycotting
 closed journals (i.e. they are not publishing in them).

That is actually something we could do: make an intensified effort to
cite the work of the boycotting researchers - to heal their losses
from not publishing in Elsevier journals - and commit to working in
citations of any future boycotters. We wouldn't be banning Elsevier
citations so much as declining to spend our time on adding any new
ones.

Of course, this proposal has the problem that to work, it would
require editors to add a lot of content, rather than delete it. But it
shows that we have a lot of options besides the simple-minded 'ban
Elsevier citations' option.

-- 
gwern
http://www.gwern.net

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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 February 2012 17:12, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:

 could you perhaps elaborate how exactly the Free Knowledge would benifit
 from boycotting non-OA journals? (Not meant sarcastic, I really want to
 know)
 Also, how would you imagine such support? I could imagine that with any
 support by Wikimedia for a boycott, people would assume automatically that
 we would start blocking citations of said journals. Or are you thinking
 about that Wikimedia related scholars are asked to public Open Access? (I
 could imagine this is already the case)


I can't see this flying. If the most evil person in the world
publishes a work that it's appropriate to cite in an educational
article, then we cite it. Elsevier are a giant sucking vampire tick on
science and knowledge itself, and if we were looking for an enemy
they'd be an excellent candidate, but there's lots more evil people
out there.

But, as Gwern suggests, papers by researchers who have joined the
boycott would be fertile ground for new content for the projects.


- d.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Andrea Zanni
2012/2/1 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org

 Hi Andrea,

 could you perhaps elaborate how exactly the Free Knowledge would benifit
 from boycotting non-OA journals? (Not meant sarcastic, I really want to
 know)


Hi Lodewijk,
thanks for the engaging question ;-)
Boycotting non-OA journals is not what I had in mind (as others explained),
here the aim is to point as Elsevier as an example of a wicked system.
Free knowledge could benefit from a renewed scholarly publishing world,
in which every research would be open to the public to be read and studied,
and the datasets of that research would be open to be tested again.
Scientific research is the cutting/bleeding edge of human inquiry, and you
perfectly understand how it would be important to have results of that
inquiry to be available to anyone who wants to access it.


 Also, how would you imagine such support? I could imagine that with any
 support by Wikimedia for a boycott, people would assume automatically that
 we would start blocking citations of said journals. Or are you thinking
 about that Wikimedia related scholars are asked to public Open Access? (I
 could imagine this is already the case)


This is more difficult.
I don't have many concrete ideas, but if Wikimedia related scholars could
add their name to the boycott list, and WMF would say that clear and loud,
that would be a small but significant step. Many others could follow.
Boycott citations to important articles or journals is not really a good
move (it's complicated): better would be for any editor to check if there
is an open access article which provide similar results, but this would be
very time-consuming, I think, and not always effective.



 In the past Wikimedia has always taken the stance that if people or
 companies want to exercize their copyright within legal limits, we have no
 objection to that (although we may challenge some of the legal limits).
 Would you propose a standpoint that goes further than that? (because then,
 it would imho certainly require much more community discussion before we
 take such step)

 I would like to point out that Open Access and in general Open Science are
movements wants science results open and available for all.
Traditional copyright is not the main enemy: the enemy is a publishing
system that exploit the work of researchers (which write, review, and buy
articles) and public funds (through universities and libraries) with a very
too high profits. The system is wicked because there is a monopoly of few
huge publishers which decide prices of journals, which force you to buy
journals you don't want (the bundle system).
Moreover, the are the Impact Factor issues, and the fact that these
publishers agree with SOPA, ACTA, etc.

I would like also to hear from Daniel, our beloved Wikimedian In Residence
for Open Access :-)

Aubrey



 Best regards,
 Lodewijk

 No dia 1 de Fevereiro de 2012 17:32, Andrea Zanni
 zanni.andre...@gmail.comescreveu:

  I don't know if it's the case,
  but it would be very interesting to have the Foundation
  support officialy the campaign (single scholars can do decide to boycott,
  of course).
  But universal access to universal knowledge is pretty Open Access to
 me,
  and this think is taking momentum,
  hopefully will be effective.
 
  Aubrey
 
  2012/2/1 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
 
   Another article:
  
   http://chronicle.com/article/Who-Gets-to-See-Published/130403/
  
Elsevier has supported a proposed federal law, the Research Works
 Act
(HR 3699), that could prevent agencies like the National Institutes
 of
Health from making all articles written by grant recipients freely
available.
   
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.03699:
   
Research Works Act - Prohibits a federal agency from adopting,
maintaining, continuing, or otherwise engaging in any policy,
 program,
  or
other activity that: (1) causes, permits, or authorizes network
dissemination of any private-sector research work without the prior
consent of the publisher; or (2) requires that any actual or
  prospective
author, or the author's employer, assent to such network
 dissemination.
   
Defines private-sector research work as an article intended to be
published in a scholarly or scientific publication, or any version of
such an article, that is not a work of the U.S. government,
 describing
  or
interpreting research funded in whole or in part by a federal agency
  and
to which a commercial or nonprofit publisher has made or has entered
  into
an arrangement to make a value-added contribution, including peer
  review
or editing, but does not include progress reports or raw data outputs
routinely required to be created for and submitted directly to a
  funding
agency in the course of research.
   
Fred
   
   
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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Kim Bruning
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 12:53:23PM -0500, Gwern Branwen wrote:
 Of course, this proposal has the problem that to work, it would
 require editors to add a lot of content, rather than delete it. But it
 shows that we have a lot of options besides the simple-minded 'ban
 Elsevier citations' option.


Coulw we start a WikiJournal of some sort? (Akin to WikiNews in
operation, perhaps?)

sincerely,
Kim Bruning

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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread geni
On 1 February 2012 20:14, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:

 Coulw we start a WikiJournal of some sort?

Been floated from time to time thus not going to happen

 (Akin to WikiNews in
 operation, perhaps?)

No. If were actually going to launch a journal we would do it in a
conventional manner. Partly so wikipedia will view it as a reliable
source and partly because in some way wikinews acts as a terrible
warning.

-- 
geni

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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Daniel Mietchen
I think that skipping non-OA sources is not a valid option, though
encouragement of the use of relevant OA sources is.

One way to achieve that could be by highlighting the OA-ness of
cited references, as is now common practice in the Research section of
the Signpost (most recent example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-01-30/Recent_research#References
).

So far, this flagging is done manually, but at least for publishers
that use the same Creative Commons license for all the articles they
publish, it would be easy to modify citation templates like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_journal to include the OA
icon for all DOIs belonging to the prefixes listed at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Open_Knowledge_Foundation_Germany/Open_Access_Catalogue/OA_publishers/DOI_prefixes_entirely_OA
. Things get a bit more complicated on the journal level, especially
in the case of hybrid OA journals, in which some articles are OA,
others not, and even the OA ones may be under different licenses.

What else can we do? Well, the usual stuff: assessing and improving
existing articles around OA and starting new ones, or putting OA
materials to new uses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open_Access
has recently been started with precisely these goals.

We can also highlight content that we reuse from OA sources, as per
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Open_Access_File_of_the_Day
, or we can see to OA-related topics or files being more
systematically considered for the various options of featuring.

As for any other article, the entries on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Works_Act
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier
should strive to neutrally state the facts - they speak for
themselves. That said, I am certainly supportive of closer interaction
between the OA and Wikimedia communities - not by chance one of the
core aspects of my Wikimedian in Residence project (
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedian_in_Residence_on_Open_Science
).

Such interaction can take place in multiple ways, e.g. via an
Open-Access policy of the Foundation (currently being developed by
RCOM at 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Committee/Areas_of_interest/Open-access_policy
),  via removal of weasel words in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access#Criticism ,
via collaboration with scholarly journals (e.g. as per
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/January_2012/Contents/Open_Access_report#Topic_Pages_at_PLoS_Computational_Biology
),
via translation of OA-related articles (cf.
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/January_2012/Contents/Tool_testing_report#Documentation_of_DYKs_and_other_temporarily_featured_content
), or by mutually showcasing OA an wiki matters at wiki and OA events
(e.g. as per
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-01-30/Recent_research#Briefly
or
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedian_in_Residence_on_Open_Science/Events
) .

With regards to boycotting Elsevier, I do not think that would easily
fall within the mission of the Foundation (or even individual
chapters), but of course, individual Wikimedians are free to join.

I haven't joined the anti-Elsevier pledge and have no intention to do
so anytime soon, for two main reasons:
- Elsevier is neither the only nor the fiercest opponent of Open
Access, just the biggest one
- I have already signed a (rather moderate) Open Access pledge last year (cf.
http://www.openaccesspledge.com/?page_id=2 ) and a more strict one
last month (cf. http://www.researchwithoutwalls.org/451 ). In both
cases, it applies to all non-OA publishing rather than just one
publisher, and in the latter case, I specifically mention
compatibility with reuse on Wikipedia as a criterion for me to get
involved.

Stressing the reuse aspects of OA is an area that I can well imagine
being championed by the Wikimedia community or by the Foundation: Much
of Gold OA is reusable on Wikipedia (e.g. all PLoS or Hindawi journals
but not Nature Communications or Scientific Reports, nor Living
Reviews or Scholarpedia), some of Green OA (e.g. all of Nature
Precedings, some of arXive, though not visibly so) and basically
nothing of traditionally published materials (exceptions being the odd
human genome paper released directly into the Public Domain).

It is thus not surprinsing to see that a ranking of publishers by
number of pages on Wikimedia Commons that mention one of their DOIs
sees several OA publishers ahead of Elsevier and other large non-OA
publishers (cf. http://toolserver.org/~dartar/cite-o-meter/?commons=1
; prototype; loads slowly and is not entirely up to date). I am
involved in work on a tool that automatically uploads to Commons audio
and video files from suitably licensed OA articles (cf.
http://wir.okfn.org/2012/01/18/project-introduction-open-access-media-importer-for-wikimedia-commons/
).

OA publishers - namely PLoS - have been pushing the idea of openly

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2 February 2012 00:31, Daniel Mietchen 
 daniel.mietc...@googlemail.comwrote:

 I think that skipping non-OA sources is not a valid option, though
 encouragement of the use of relevant OA sources is.

 One way to achieve that could be by highlighting the OA-ness of
 cited references, as is now common practice in the Research section of
 the Signpost (most recent example:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-01-30/Recent_research#References
 ).

 So far, this flagging is done manually, but at least for publishers
 that use the same Creative Commons license for all the articles they
 publish, it would be easy to modify citation templates like
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_journal to include the OA
 icon for all DOIs belonging to the prefixes listed at

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Open_Knowledge_Foundation_Germany/Open_Access_Catalogue/OA_publishers/DOI_prefixes_entirely_OA
 . Things get a bit more complicated on the journal level, especially
 in the case of hybrid OA journals, in which some articles are OA,
 others not, and even the OA ones may be under different licenses.

 snip


 Daniel


 THIS!

 I agree with what was said before that it would be technically (and
 intellectually) difficulty to boycott links to particular sources from
 Wikipedias. I think it would be fantastic if we could *promote* Open Access
 sources in our references - see Daniel's link to the Signpost (above) for a
 good example. If we could overcome some technical difficulties (Daniel
 describes some above). This would be a positive action to support OA rather
 than a punitive action against other less open (but still legal) publishers
 of Reliable Sources. It would also help promote the idea of OA sources in
 the general public.
 Ideally this could be done automatically by compiling a list of OA
 compliant sources and automatically adding in the OA icon to a footnote
 whenever the relevant citation code is called.

We have lists of journal usage,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Journals_cited_by_Wikipedia/Popular1

and Wikipedia articles about journals often have OA information in the infobox.

e.g. our most cited journal, J. Biol. Chem., is 12 month delay OA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Biological_Chemistry

-- 
John Vandenberg

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Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread phoebe ayers
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Chess Pie derby_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Looks like a braindead law.
 Does the foundation have a specific position on OpenAccess?

The WMF as an entity doesn't have a specific position/policy, though
in general we are squarely in the camp of OA supporters; but as Daniel
noted the Research Committee is working on an OA policy for funded
research studies, which I'm quite pleased about:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Committee/Areas_of_interest/Open-access_policy

Maybe Daniel knows if there are any general position papers about how
OA in general benefits Wikimedia projects?

Re: the Elsevier journal boycott, I've been following this fairly
closely out of professional and personal interest -- it's not strictly
a protest in favor of OA, but rather a protest around several issues
related to how Elsevier handles and charges for journal content,
including supporting restrictions, like the research works act. It is
true that Elsevier is not especially worse than several other big
publishers, but they have a big name and a long history of unfriendly
moves to the library  academic community which make them perhaps an
easier target. What's interesting about the boycott is that a) it's
grown very quickly, with several thousand people signing in the past
couple weeks; and b) it's a lot of prominent researchers from a wide
variety of institutions. What gives this boycott power is not
institutional support but rather individual researchers and scholars,
who provide both the content and the labor in scientific publishing,
saying that they were not interested in working with Elsevier. If
enough people say that and follow through, Elsevier's entire business
model falls apart.

-- phoebe

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