Re: AGM Meeting: Proposal (on p.g.o)

2012-07-30 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Johannes Schmid  a écrit:

>> Why do you check the website at all? RSS solves that problem and n.g.o
>> is not what could be called noisy. I'm not saying that doing so is a
>> bad thing, I'm just trying to understand the way you do it.
>
> I don't use RSS. I am browsing this pages from work where I am not
> allowed to install software and I don't wanna use Google Reader (because
> I don't have any google account apart from GSoC).

I think I am on the same page.  I don't want to use Google Reader and I
find RSS Readers to be as clunky as it could possible be.  So I use
rss2email.  I sends me my RSS feeds as email.  Thus just read my RSS in
my normal email.  Bonus point, I can sort them using the solid my email
filters I have in place already.  I your email workflow is streamlined,
so should your rss' be.

I hope this helps.

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Re: AGM Meeting: Proposal (on p.g.o)

2012-07-30 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Johannes Schmid  wrote:
> I was *never* proposing that

Well *I* am. :-)

> - I just wanted commit-digest as single
> exception, maybe visually separated. The rest of news.gnome.org is not
> that interesting to be on the planet.

It seems a bit unfair to me to say that the rest of n.g.o isn't as
worthy of the reader's attention as the things we would have on
Planet. As I said earlier, it's not very high volume, so why not have
it with the rest? As you said we've been trying to make it more
visible for years. Maybe this is the solution?

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Re: AGM Meeting: Proposal (on p.g.o)

2012-07-30 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

> Ok, so what about having n.g.o merged onto planet, but:
> * we keep the feeds separate so that people can choose to subscribe to
> either project news or hacker news or both
> * as Vincent said, we make them visually separated

I was *never* proposing that - I just wanted commit-digest as single
exception, maybe visually separated. The rest of news.gnome.org is not
that interesting to be on the planet.

Johannes



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Re: AGM Meeting: Proposal (on p.g.o)

2012-07-30 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Johannes Schmid  wrote:
> I don't use RSS. I am browsing this pages from work where I am not
> allowed to install software and I don't wanna use Google Reader (because
> I don't have any google account apart from GSoC). I like to be able to
> access plain webpages and that's basically where you catch people. If
> they are interested they *might* use RSS at some point but they won't
> discover stuff with RSS.

Ok, so what about having n.g.o merged onto planet, but:
* we keep the feeds separate so that people can choose to subscribe to
either project news or hacker news or both
* as Vincent said, we make them visually separated

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Re: AGM Meeting: Proposal (on p.g.o)

2012-07-30 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

> Why do you check the website at all? RSS solves that problem and n.g.o
> is not what could be called noisy. I'm not saying that doing so is a
> bad thing, I'm just trying to understand the way you do it.

I don't use RSS. I am browsing this pages from work where I am not
allowed to install software and I don't wanna use Google Reader (because
I don't have any google account apart from GSoC). I like to be able to
access plain webpages and that's basically where you catch people. If
they are interested they *might* use RSS at some point but they won't
discover stuff with RSS.

Regards,
Johannes 



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Re: AGM Meeting: Proposal (on p.g.o)

2012-07-30 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Johannes Schmid  wrote:
> We tried that for five (or more?) years now without success and I hope
> at some point people realize that it doesn't work. I was one of the
> people that used to read n.g.o but at some point I am just missing the
> time to check yet another website.

Why do you check the website at all? RSS solves that problem and n.g.o
is not what could be called noisy. I'm not saying that doing so is a
bad thing, I'm just trying to understand the way you do it.

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Re: AGM Meeting: Proposal (on p.g.o)

2012-07-30 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

> Some people expressed another opinion which I agree with:
> news.gnome.org is the right place for this and if the problem is that
> people don't read it, then maybe we should rather work on making it
> more appealing and advertise it more.

We tried that for five (or more?) years now without success and I hope
at some point people realize that it doesn't work. I was one of the
people that used to read n.g.o but at some point I am just missing the
time to check yet another website.

Regards,
Johannes



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Re: AGM Meeting: Proposal (on p.g.o)

2012-07-30 Thread Xabier Rodriguez Calvar
O Dom, 29-07-2012 ás 15:41 +0100, Alberto Ruiz escribiu:
> Maybe we can just forward peoeple to GNOME Memes through the official
> GNOME twitter account and/or G+... I think this needs a bit more
> discussion and thought.

Yeah, I was talking to Alberto that that was my opinion too. I think
GNOME Memes is perfect for the twitter account, but I don't think it's a
good idea for PGO.

Br.




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Re: AGM Meeting: Proposal (on p.g.o)

2012-07-30 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Alberto Ruiz  wrote:
> However, it seems to me that there is a broad consensus that one way or the
> other Commit Digests should go in, am I right?

Some people expressed another opinion which I agree with:
news.gnome.org is the right place for this and if the problem is that
people don't read it, then maybe we should rather work on making it
more appealing and advertise it more.

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