Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 25th, 2014

2014-03-05 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 03/04/2014 08:12 PM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:


This can be avoided with temporal internment methods but that requires
*lots* of time, legal entities established and still some money. And
it is different from country to country.

Regarding banners and stickers and such, South América is dirt cheap
for producing those. So there would be little benefit with printed
material.


Thanks German and Diego for the info.
Yeah, this was mainly to look if we could save some money, so if it's 
just going to be more pricey and result in a bunch of hassle, we should 
not do it.

- Andreas
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Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of March 3rd, 2014

2014-03-05 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 03/04/2014 04:14 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:



== Board Meeting Agenda ==
 * Give higher PayPal privileges to the treasurer
  * Avoid the bottleneck in case Rosanna is not available
  * '''ACTION''': Kat to ask Rosanna to increase her privileges on the
PayPal account


If Rosanna was there, why is this an action item?


Rosanna was not in that meeting, we just missed to move her from the 
attending list.

- Andreas
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Re: internal engagement

2014-03-05 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi Germán;

On 4 March 2014 19:24, Germán Póo-Caamaño g...@gnome.org wrote:

 Just an example after reading the minutes recently sent:

 = Minutes for Tuesday, December 10th, 2013, 16:00 UTC =
 [...]
* We should also ask on foundation-list for ideas
* '''ACTION''': ... to reach out to foundation-list for ideas
 from the foundation members regarding the privacy campaign funds


 = Minutes for Tuesday, January 21th, 2013, 15:00 UTC =
 [...]
   * Status and plan for the security and privacy campaign's money
* ... asked around generally for ideas
* Not much feedback

 I don't see in the archives (December 2013-March 2014) a mail to
 foundation-list asking for ideas for the privacy campaign (please,
 correct me if I am wrong). So, it should not be strange that there was
 Not much feedback.

that's my mistake in the minutes: the asked around was referring to
the wiki page (https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/PrivacyCampaign2013)
we set up after the announcement of the privacy campaign results at
GUADEC, as well as informal polling of maintainers and contributors of
security-related projects; for instance, Andreas reached out to Stef
Walters about potential ideas, but that happened only recently. to be
fair, I think asking for concrete proposals on foundation-list would
be a terrible mistake: desktop-devel would probably be more effective
— in fact, the first proposal of the privacy campaign, which included
potential work areas, was sent to desktop-devel:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-December/msg00077.html

 How is that none of the directors noticed this to fix it?

I was honestly convinced that Karen did send an email (I do remember
the discussions at various meetings quite vividly), but it's probably
the result of me discussing this stuff off and on in various venues
(IRC, email, social networks) that I may just have been confused. I
apologise for that.

ciao,
 Emmanuele.

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Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 18th, 2014

2014-03-05 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 22:49 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
 hi Germán;
 
 On 4 March 2014 20:05, Germán Póo-Caamaño g...@gnome.org wrote:
  On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 10:15 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
  wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140218
 
  = Minutes for Tuesday, February 18th, 2014, 16:00 UTC =
 
  == Next Meeting ==
   * Tuesday, February 25th, 2014, 16:00 UTC
  [...]
   * The Board discussed the direction of the GNOME Foundation and
  possibilities for the future
 
  May any of the directors elaborate more about the outcome of this
  discussion?
 
 there is no outcome per se, right now, as the discussion is pretty
 much informal and still ongoing (as you may have noticed).
 
 some of the discussion was free flowing/mindstorming, some of it was
 rambling, some of it was more structured: engagement (internal and
 external), technical direction, fund raising, membership benefits,
 roles of the directors.

Luis would have enjoyed the mindstorming ;)

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Re: internal engagement

2014-03-05 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 03/05/2014 11:38 AM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:

that's my mistake in the minutes: the asked around was referring to
the wiki page (https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/PrivacyCampaign2013)
we set up after the announcement of the privacy campaign results at
GUADEC, as well as informal polling of maintainers and contributors of
security-related projects; for instance, Andreas reached out to Stef
Walters about potential ideas, but that happened only recently. to be
fair, I think asking for concrete proposals on foundation-list would
be a terrible mistake: desktop-devel would probably be more effective
— in fact, the first proposal of the privacy campaign, which included
potential work areas, was sent to desktop-devel:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-December/msg00077.html


So, some background on why we wanted to get feedback from Stef 
specifically. Since his guadec talk was on the subject of security, he 
felt like a good person to reach out to.
I didn't get around to it earlier, and I just reached out to him now. We 
talked for a bit, and he hadn't thought much more about the campaign 
since GUADEC.


His ideas and others are on this list:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/PrivacyCampaign2013

Everyone, please feel free to add your ideas to that page.

- Andreas
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Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 25th, 2014

2014-03-05 Thread Fabiana Simões
On 4 March 2014 20:12, Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org wrote:
 Money is still the better option.

Agreed.

Apart from all that has been mentioned, speaking for Brazil, delivery
services aren't always reliable. International packages take quite a
while to be delivered, and might end up stuck in Customs or lost. More
expensive shipping methods might compensate for this, but then they
are as I said *more expensive* methods.

- Fabiana
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Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 25th, 2014

2014-03-05 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
On 5 March 2014 11:32, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4 March 2014 20:12, Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org wrote:
 Money is still the better option.

 Agreed.

 Apart from all that has been mentioned, speaking for Brazil, delivery
 services aren't always reliable. International packages take quite a
 while to be delivered, and might end up stuck in Customs or lost. More
 expensive shipping methods might compensate for this, but then they
 are as I said *more expensive* methods.

Thanks for the feedback everyone, I think it's quite clear that it
would be much easier and more reliable to send cash as and when
there's an event.
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Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 4th, 2014

2014-03-05 Thread Sindhu S
Hi!

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote:


* Karen met with the Debian packages for GNOME and asked the
 current state of Debian
* The Debian packagers feel demotivated by the current situation
* They agreed to blog more on the issue
* The Debian packagers asked for a technical position from the
 GNOME project for the use of systemd


I am not able to understand this, why are the packagers feeling
demotivated? what is the
current situation? Is there any way I can help?

I am interested because I am preparing for Debian MiniConf 2014 by
presenting remotely.

Thank you.

-Sindhu
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New Foundation Members

2014-03-05 Thread Andrea Veri
Hello everybody!

the GNOME Foundation Membership Committee just processed another round 
of renewals / new membership requests today and we're glad to announce 
that eight new members joined the Foundation as members today. (while 
two past members: Jody Goldberg and Nick Richards had their emeritus 
membership accepted)

The new members are: *

1. Mattias Bengtsson (GNOME Maps developer)
2. Piotr Drąg (GNOME Polish translator)
3. Yosef Or Boczko (GNOME Hebrew translator)
4. Žan Doberšek (WebKitGTK+ contributor, GSoC student) 
5. Mathieu Duponchelle (Pitivi and gstreamer contributor) 
6. David Herrmann (Wayland contributions)
7. Ali Jawad (Ubuntu GNOME community and engagement contributions)
8. Arth Patel (GNOME Calculator contributor, GSoC mentor)

while the emeritus members are:

1. Jody Goldberg (GTK and Gnumeric developer, former board member)
2. Nick Richards (design contributions to Empathy, Evolution and other projects)

Welcome!

-- 

Cheers,

Andrea

Debian Developer,
Fedora / EPEL packager,
GNOME Sysadmin,
GNOME Foundation Membership  Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av


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Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 4th, 2014

2014-03-05 Thread Karen Sandler

On 2014-03-05 10:15, Sindhu S wrote:

Hi!

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com 
wrote:


   * Karen met with the Debian packages for GNOME and asked the
current state of Debian
   * The Debian packagers feel demotivated by the current situation
   * They agreed to blog more on the issue
   * The Debian packagers asked for a technical position from the
GNOME project for the use of systemd

I am not able to understand this, why are the packagers feeling
demotivated? what is the
current situation? Is there any way I can help?

I am interested because I am preparing for Debian MiniConf 2014 by
presenting remotely.


I'm sorry that was a clumsy summary of the situation (and probably 
should have been marked private, and the Debian packagers didn't 
actually ask for a position, I suggested it could be useful to maybe do 
a joint statement with other desktops and it turned out from the public 
discussion that followed to be unnecessary). I do think that it's been 
tough though the systemd/upstart discussion and with the default status 
of GNOME being questioned. In any case, I think we as a community could 
be more supportive of our Debian packagers who are doing a fantastic 
job! Thank you!


karen
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