Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler

2014-05-20 Thread Oliver Propst
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:
 Affiliation: Software Freedom Conservancy. I'm also pro bono General Counsel
 of QuestionCopyright.Org, and an advisor of The Ada Initiative and sometimes
 help other orgs (like the FSF) on legal and other free software related
 matters.

 As promised when I left the position of Executive Director, I'd like to
 throw my hat in the ring for the Board of Directors. I think I can help
 bring continuity to the board (Stormy was incredibly helpful on the board
 when I started as ED). Also, as a lawyer I sometimes have an additionally
 useful perspective. I'm still doing volunteer work for GNOME both as pro
 bono counsel and as a volunteer on nonlegal matters for GNOME. I've been
 helping with fundraising, collecting on outstanding invoices and generally
 wherever I can.
You are a very busy person with many responsibilities, if you get
elected to the Board do you feel confident that you can spend the
necessary time on Board work?

Thanks!
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Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler

2014-05-20 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya

- Original Message -
 From: Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) zeesha...@gnome.org
 To: Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com
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 Subject: Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler
 
 Hi Karen,
 
 On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:
  Affiliation: Software Freedom Conservancy. I'm also pro bono General
  Counsel
  of QuestionCopyright.Org, and an advisor of The Ada Initiative and
  sometimes
  help other orgs (like the FSF) on legal and other free software related
  matters.
 
  As promised when I left the position of Executive Director, I'd like to
  throw my hat in the ring for the Board of Directors. I think I can help
  bring continuity to the board (Stormy was incredibly helpful on the board
  when I started as ED). Also, as a lawyer I sometimes have an additionally
  useful perspective. I'm still doing volunteer work for GNOME both as pro
  bono counsel and as a volunteer on nonlegal matters for GNOME. I've been
  helping with fundraising, collecting on outstanding invoices and generally
  wherever I can.
  You are a very busy person with many responsibilities, if you get
  elected to the Board do you feel confident that you can spend the
  necessary time on Board work?
 
 While I think you do a lot for Free Software and your passion and work
 inspires many, I'm afraid I do share Oliver's concern here.

It's not just the time commitment we are looking for in the board members, but 
also experience. Karen has a tremendous amount of experience in free software 
non-profit space. In the last two months, she has been very generous with her 
time as a volunteer for GNOME.

Thanks,
Marina

 
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Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler

2014-05-20 Thread Karen Sandler

On 2014-05-20 09:17, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:

Hi Karen,

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Oliver Propst 
oliver.pro...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:
Affiliation: Software Freedom Conservancy. I'm also pro bono General 
Counsel
of QuestionCopyright.Org, and an advisor of The Ada Initiative and 
sometimes

help other orgs (like the FSF) on legal and other free software related
matters.

As promised when I left the position of Executive Director, I'd like to
throw my hat in the ring for the Board of Directors. I think I can help
bring continuity to the board (Stormy was incredibly helpful on the 
board
when I started as ED). Also, as a lawyer I sometimes have an 
additionally
useful perspective. I'm still doing volunteer work for GNOME both as 
pro
bono counsel and as a volunteer on nonlegal matters for GNOME. I've 
been
helping with fundraising, collecting on outstanding invoices and 
generally

wherever I can.
You are a very busy person with many responsibilities, if you get
elected to the Board do you feel confident that you can spend the
necessary time on Board work?

While I think you do a lot for Free Software and your passion and work
inspires many, I'm afraid I do share Oliver's concern here.


I am extremely busy. I was just reading through all of the emails to 
board candidates this morning, as the time I've had in the last few days 
for GNOME I've spent volunteering on time sensitive things that I think 
must be done. This includes following up on outstanding invoices and 
also tracking a GNOME trademark matter. I also reviewed and commented on 
the contract for the GUADEC local organization (there may have been 
other things that I'm forgetting).  And this is all in the last week, 
and not counting recording the voice over for the cool documentation 
video that Bastian is putting together :)


I have to say: being on the GNOME board takes a lot of time. It's not a 
small commitment that the candidates are offering to make! Most boards 
meet quarterly at most, so meeting every other week is really a lot. 
However, I think it's worth the time expenditure. I just recorded an 
oggcast on this topic (what it means to serve on a board of directors 
and whether you should want to do it), which unfortunately won't come 
out until next week.


If elected, I'll probably use my time for GNOME by participating in the 
meetings and working on things like I've been doing as a volunteer 
mentioned above and am less likely than some other candidates to engage 
in lengthy discussions on mailing lists, but I think that's ok provided 
that some of the other board members focus on that important role (I 
will chime in on discussion, it just might not be right away or in great 
detail).


karen


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Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler

2014-05-20 Thread David King

Hi Marina

On 2014-05-20 11:17, Marina Zhurakhinskaya mari...@redhat.com wrote:

In my view, having immediate feedback and ideas from someone with lots of 
experience during the board meetings is very valuable, and can't be substituted 
with occasional consulting. The board and the Foundation benefit from a 
diversity of skills and experiences of the board members. As both Karen and I 
mentioned, she has been dedicating her time volunteering on critical matters. 
Being on the board provides the best view into what these matters are, which 
she is able to help us with. I think the composition of the board and the 
skills and time commitments people can offer need to be considered together to 
create the best balance.


Indeed, and there is no reason that the immediate feedback cannot be 
gained from Karen as an adviser if she is invited to board meetings. I 
do not think that a board composed of some members who are able to 
devote time to taking on many action items and some who are not able to 
take on many is a good balance, and certainly not the best balance.


Karen, how much time would you have available to dedicate to board 
matters above and beyond your existing volunteering commitments? You 
mentioned elsewhere that you have been spending 5 hours per week on your 
volunteering efforts for GNOME. Would you be able to dedicate time above 
that to board duties, or would your board duties negatively impact your 
existing efforts?


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Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler

2014-05-20 Thread meg ford
Hi Karen,

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:

 I am extremely busy. I was just reading through all of the emails to board
 candidates this morning, as the time I've had in the last few days for
 GNOME I've spent volunteering on time sensitive things that I think must be
 done. This includes following up on outstanding invoices and also tracking
 a GNOME trademark matter. I also reviewed and commented on the contract for
 the GUADEC local organization (there may have been other things that I'm
 forgetting).  And this is all in the last week, and not counting recording
 the voice over for the cool documentation video that Bastian is putting
 together :)

 I have to say: being on the GNOME board takes a lot of time. It's not a
 small commitment that the candidates are offering to make! Most boards meet
 quarterly at most, so meeting every other week is really a lot. However, I
 think it's worth the time expenditure. I just recorded an oggcast on this
 topic (what it means to serve on a board of directors and whether you
 should want to do it), which unfortunately won't come out until next week.

 If elected, I'll probably use my time for GNOME by participating in the
 meetings and working on things like I've been doing as a volunteer
 mentioned above and am less likely than some other candidates to engage in
 lengthy discussions on mailing lists, but I think that's ok provided that
 some of the other board members focus on that important role (I will chime
 in on discussion, it just might not be right away or in great detail).


It seems, from the other responses, that the other candidates plan to
spend  5 - 10 hours per week on board-related duties. How many hours per
week do you plan to spend?

Thanks,
Meg
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Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler

2014-05-20 Thread Karen Sandler

On 2014-05-20 11:30, David King wrote:

Hi Marina

On 2014-05-20 11:17, Marina Zhurakhinskaya mari...@redhat.com wrote:
In my view, having immediate feedback and ideas from someone with lots 
of experience during the
board meetings is very valuable, and can't be substituted with 
occasional consulting. The board
and the Foundation benefit from a diversity of skills and experiences 
of the board members. As
both Karen and I mentioned, she has been dedicating her time 
volunteering on critical matters.
Being on the board provides the best view into what these matters are, 
which she is able to help
us with. I think the composition of the board and the skills and time 
commitments people can

offer need to be considered together to create the best balance.

Indeed, and there is no reason that the immediate feedback cannot be
gained from Karen as an adviser if she is invited to board meetings. I
do not think that a board composed of some members who are able to
devote time to taking on many action items and some who are not able
to take on many is a good balance, and certainly not the best balance.

Karen, how much time would you have available to dedicate to board
matters above and beyond your existing volunteering commitments? You
mentioned elsewhere that you have been spending 5 hours per week on
your volunteering efforts for GNOME. Would you be able to dedicate
time above that to board duties, or would your board duties negatively
impact your existing efforts?


I'm not sure Dave, it's a tough question. To be honest, if I'm not a 
board member I probably won't regularly join the board meetings. For 
reference, I was not invited to board meetings when I was just pro bono 
counsel to GNOME (from my SFLC days) and I'm unaware of any pro bono 
counsel being regularly invited to the meetings. While it's possible to 
join it's not really part of that role.


I try to give the maximum amount of time I have free to GNOME (much to 
the annoyance of my family, it's actually some weeks been much more than 
5 hours since I left as ED but I wanted to give a more conservative view 
of my time commitments).


The volunteer work that I've been doing is in part driven by the 
momentum I've had as ED and being a part of the board meetings in the 
past. I would expect that to diminish if I'm not on the board. On 
helping to collect invoices and asking for sponsorship (I've done both 
for GNOME even in the last 2 weeks), it will be much easier if I am a 
board member, as I'd have the authority to represent the org.


As I said in an earlier email, being on the board is a lot of work - I 
want to make myself available to serve, but am happy to leave it to 
others if the membership so chooses. I think I'd be an asset to the 
Foundation in this position which is why I've chosen to run.  It's also 
hard for everyone to make promises about availability going forward.  
I've seen a lot of people promise to do a lot during the elections 
period and then fail to step up over the course of the term. I've 
avoided other boards in the past (I've been asked to serve on a lot of 
them) but I am making an exception this time as GNOME is special :)


The current board has been really great, and very active. I've been glad 
to work with them. If elected, I will indeed have to readjust my 
priorities and overall commitments. And it might mean that I miss a 
marketing meeting in favor of a board meeting if I am very busy that 
week. I think that's probably true for every board member though.


karen

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Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler

2014-05-20 Thread Karen Sandler

On 2014-05-20 11:42, meg ford wrote:

Hi Karen,

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:

I am extremely busy. I was just reading through all of the emails to 
board candidates this morning, as the time I've had in the last few 
days for GNOME I've spent volunteering on time sensitive things that I 
think must be done. This includes following up on outstanding invoices 
and also tracking a GNOME trademark matter. I also reviewed and 
commented on the contract for the GUADEC local organization (there may 
have been other things that I'm forgetting).  And this is all in the 
last week, and not counting recording the voice over for the cool 
documentation video that Bastian is putting together :)


I have to say: being on the GNOME board takes a lot of time. It's not a 
small commitment that the candidates are offering to make! Most boards 
meet quarterly at most, so meeting every other week is really a lot. 
However, I think it's worth the time expenditure. I just recorded an 
oggcast on this topic (what it means to serve on a board of directors 
and whether you should want to do it), which unfortunately won't come 
out until next week.


If elected, I'll probably use my time for GNOME by participating in the 
meetings and working on things like I've been doing as a volunteer 
mentioned above and am less likely than some other candidates to engage 
in lengthy discussions on mailing lists, but I think that's ok provided 
that some of the other board members focus on that important role (I 
will chime in on discussion, it just might not be right away or in 
great detail).


It seems, from the other responses, that the other candidates plan to
spend  5 - 10 hours per week on board-related duties. How many hours
per week do you plan to spend?


I just wrote about this in greater detail but didn't want to leave a 
direct email to me unanswered.


The short answer is 5 or more, possibly more like 2 (hopefully) when 
traveling or very busy :)


karen
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Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler

2014-05-20 Thread David King

Hi Karen

On 2014-05-20 12:27, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:

On 2014-05-20 11:30, David King wrote:

Indeed, and there is no reason that the immediate feedback cannot be
gained from Karen as an adviser if she is invited to board meetings. I
do not think that a board composed of some members who are able to
devote time to taking on many action items and some who are not able
to take on many is a good balance, and certainly not the best balance.

Karen, how much time would you have available to dedicate to board
matters above and beyond your existing volunteering commitments? You
mentioned elsewhere that you have been spending 5 hours per week on
your volunteering efforts for GNOME. Would you be able to dedicate
time above that to board duties, or would your board duties negatively
impact your existing efforts?


I'm not sure Dave, it's a tough question. To be honest, if I'm not a
board member I probably won't regularly join the board meetings. For
reference, I was not invited to board meetings when I was just pro bono
counsel to GNOME (from my SFLC days) and I'm unaware of any pro bono
counsel being regularly invited to the meetings. While it's possible to
join it's not really part of that role.

I try to give the maximum amount of time I have free to GNOME (much to
the annoyance of my family, it's actually some weeks been much more than
5 hours since I left as ED but I wanted to give a more conservative view
of my time commitments).

The volunteer work that I've been doing is in part driven by the
momentum I've had as ED and being a part of the board meetings in the
past. I would expect that to diminish if I'm not on the board. On
helping to collect invoices and asking for sponsorship (I've done both
for GNOME even in the last 2 weeks), it will be much easier if I am a
board member, as I'd have the authority to represent the org.

As I said in an earlier email, being on the board is a lot of work - I
want to make myself available to serve, but am happy to leave it to
others if the membership so chooses. I think I'd be an asset to the
Foundation in this position which is why I've chosen to run.  It's also
hard for everyone to make promises about availability going forward.
I've seen a lot of people promise to do a lot during the elections
period and then fail to step up over the course of the term. I've
avoided other boards in the past (I've been asked to serve on a lot of
them) but I am making an exception this time as GNOME is special :)

The current board has been really great, and very active. I've been glad
to work with them. If elected, I will indeed have to readjust my
priorities and overall commitments. And it might mean that I miss a
marketing meeting in favor of a board meeting if I am very busy that
week. I think that's probably true for every board member though.


Thank you very much for the detailed response. I do not feel that my 
concerns have been completely addressed, but I think that everyone 
reading will be able to clearly understand your position.


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Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler

2014-05-20 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
On 20 May 2014 19:35, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
 On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya
 mari...@redhat.com wrote:


 It's not just the time commitment we are looking for in the board members, 
 but also experience. Karen has a tremendous amount of experience in free 
 software non-profit space. In the last two months, she has been very 
 generous with her time as a volunteer for GNOME.


 Time commitment is an elusive beast.  I put about 5 hours as director,
 but put a lot more for engagement and QA.  Other times I might spend
 more.  It depends.  Having Karen on the board will create a sense of
 continuity.  Karen's experience in both being in ED and continuing to
 be an ED for another foundation will be benificial, on the ground
 experience.  Sometimes you don't actually know WHEN to ask for an
 opinion.. I know that we've been bitten by our own experience from
 time to time.

 I don't think we should be putting too much stock on the question how
 much time do you have as a director?  II expect somone who is a
 professional will be able to gauge how much time they have and are
 willing to do it.  If you are going to apply for a position on the
 board, I expect that you've done the research and is able to commit to
 the time to be a director.

 Let's not ponder on whether someone has the time, let's focus on
 whether they are an asset on the board.

As a current board member, I think that being able to put in the time
goes a long way towards making one an asset to the board. There have
been too many silences at meetings when action items came up for the
taking. I find the lack of response from some board members when
contracts need reviewing also rather disappointing. The Foundation
board is unusual in that the board members do take an active role in
the running of the Foundation, and I do not see this as changing in
the near future, unless the Foundation takes on multiple new
employees.

If I am voted onto the board for the next year, I do not want to be
volunteering other board members to take on action items, as I have
had to do on occasion this year. Therefore, this is a very relevant
question for me, and one that I expect every candidate who would take
their duty seriously to answer.

I am glad that so many of the candidates did take the time to respond
to this question. Going by the current responses, I honestly think
that some of the candidates are underestimating the time that board
duties take and that they may not be flexible enough to put in the
hours in times of need (such as the current financial situation).

 sri
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Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler

2014-05-13 Thread Karen Sandler
Affiliation: Software Freedom Conservancy. I'm also pro bono General 
Counsel of QuestionCopyright.Org, and an advisor of The Ada Initiative 
and sometimes help other orgs (like the FSF) on legal and other free 
software related matters.


As promised when I left the position of Executive Director, I'd like to 
throw my hat in the ring for the Board of Directors. I think I can help 
bring continuity to the board (Stormy was incredibly helpful on the 
board when I started as ED). Also, as a lawyer I sometimes have an 
additionally useful perspective. I'm still doing volunteer work for 
GNOME both as pro bono counsel and as a volunteer on nonlegal matters 
for GNOME. I've been helping with fundraising, collecting on outstanding 
invoices and generally wherever I can.


Additionally, as you all know by now, I'm a huge advocate for software 
freedom. I'd love to help GNOME continue to partner with its nonprofit 
and corporate allies as well as ensuring that the foundation is solidly 
focused on promoting freedom.


karen



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