Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:02:37PM +0200, Christian Persch wrote:
 Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on
 http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in
 proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only
 option.

Well, atleast they don't use Flash. :-)

 Why aren't they available at least *also* in formats using Free codecs
 (webm / theora / ogg) ? Preferably they should even be available *only*
 using Free codecs!

We had asked SuperLectures to use WebM, if possible, but I think it fell
through the cracks. I will ask them about it.

Cheers,
Debarshi

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Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Rovanion Luckey
2013/8/15 Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se

 Well, atleast they don't use Flash. :-)


They do that too:
http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/lecture-old-school-player?id=7viewMode=0camera=0
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Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Rui Tiago Cação Matos
On 15 August 2013 12:02, Christian Persch c...@gnome.org wrote:
 Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on
 http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in
 proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only
 option.

No they are not available only in proprietary formats, check the source:

video id=slplayer_jwplayer_video x-webkit-airplay=allow
style=display: block; opacity: 1; width: 667px; height: 500px; top:
0px; left: 0px; z-index: 1; margin: auto; position: absolute;
transform: scale(1.01, 1) translate(0px, 0px);
src=http://www.superlectures.com/w843oj3p/6d8aba2b0840f7b2bf7e11abd0b635e5/520cacff/__GUADEC2013__/e11201t01/video_HD.webm;/video

The fact that the download mechanism doesn't offer .webm is just an
oversight that we'll get fixed.

Cheers,
Rui
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Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 08/15/2013 12:02 PM, Christian Persch wrote:

Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on
http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in
proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only
option.

Why aren't they available at least *also* in formats using Free codecs
(webm / theora / ogg) ? Preferably they should even be available *only*
using Free codecs!

The most important part of the above message is that GUADEC videos are 
actually available!
I was really uncertain if this would happen or not, based on experience 
of so many previous GUADEC's where we did recordings but failed to 
publish them. I was really 50/50 on it and didn't want to make any 
promises to people who asked about it.


A big thank you for everyone who made this happen!
- Andreas
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Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Christian Persch
Hi;

Am Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:33:16 +0200
schrieb Rui Tiago Cação Matos tiagoma...@gmail.com:
 On 15 August 2013 12:02, Christian Persch c...@gnome.org wrote:
  Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on
  http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in
  proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only
  option.
 
 No they are not available only in proprietary formats, check the
 source:

I didn't check the source of the web player, since I wanted to download
the videos.

 The fact that the download mechanism doesn't offer .webm is just an
 oversight that we'll get fixed.

Thanks, that would be great!

Regards,
Christian
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Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Karen Sandler
On Thu, August 15, 2013 6:39 am, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 On 08/15/2013 12:02 PM, Christian Persch wrote:
 Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on
 http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in
 proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only
 option.

 Why aren't they available at least *also* in formats using Free codecs
 (webm / theora / ogg) ? Preferably they should even be available *only*
 using Free codecs!

 The most important part of the above message is that GUADEC videos are
 actually available!
 I was really uncertain if this would happen or not, based on experience
 of so many previous GUADEC's where we did recordings but failed to
 publish them. I was really 50/50 on it and didn't want to make any
 promises to people who asked about it.

 A big thank you for everyone who made this happen!

Yes! The recordings were done in previous years but the breakdown was with
the video processing. The fact that these were done so quickly is so
exciting.

I would add that making the videos available in a free format was one of
our initial requirements.

karen




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Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Stallman
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[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,
[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example.

Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on
http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in
proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only
option.

Why aren't they available at least *also* in formats using Free codecs
(webm / theora / ogg) ? Preferably they should even be available *only*
using Free codecs!

Indeed, it is important not to push the users into using formats
that are dangerous for free software.

 Why aren't they available at least *also* in formats using Free codecs
 (webm / theora / ogg) ? Preferably they should even be available *only*
 using Free codecs!

We had asked SuperLectures to use WebM, if possible, but I think it fell
through the cracks. I will ask them about it.

We should _make sure_ only to post in formats that are favorable to
free software.  That means not creating loopholes with words such as
if possible.  It should be, Post only Ogg and/or Webm.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
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Boston MA 02110
USA
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Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
  Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.

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Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 13-08-15 06:39 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 The most important part of the above message is that GUADEC videos are
 actually available!

Indeed.  As one who couldn't attend GUADEC this year I also want to thank the
team to make them available and so fast!  I've watched about ten of the talks
since this morning and am so glad that I could do.

Cheers,
-- 
behdad
http://behdad.org/
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