RE: Shortcut Control keys - Part deux

2010-02-24 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Corinne,

If your requirements aren't too extraordinary (e.g. open menus,
hidden content, delayed capture), you can also use the common 
PRINT or ALT+PRINT shortcut and paste the screenshot from the 
clipboard into your favorite graphics software (CTRL+v). There 
you can do whatever you wanted to do with Snagit et al. (I assume 
you have Photoshop, Corel PaintShop Pro, Corel Photo-Paint, Gimp 
or a similar application).

2 keyboard shortcuts instead of 1. But no additional software,
no problems with shortcuts.

Best regards

Winfried

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 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Corinne Kenney
 Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:45 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Shortcut Control keys - Part deux
 
 Thanks to all for your previous comments about my problems 
 with shortcut keys not working in FrameMaker. The problem was 
 Snagit. As long as I don't have Snagit open, FrameMaker hums 
 along nicely. (As nicely as FM9 CAN hum along...) However... 
 I still need to capture screens. Has anyone who has had this 
 problem used another capture utility that doesn't interfere 
 with FM? I have the free version of ScreenHunter, but I can't 
 edit the captures. I can upgrade and get the version that 
 can. Does anyone else have ScreenHunter, or another recommendation?
 
 Any insights or advice? Thanks in advance.
 
 Corinne Kenney
 Technical Documetation
 OpenTV
 Golden, Colorado
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Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy DeWees
 
I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
would be particularly helpful. 
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RE: Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Timothy,

You do not have to open the book file in order to work on documents that are
contained in that book.

Rick Quatro
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585-659-8267
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I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
would be particularly helpful. 


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Re: Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Steve Johnson
It's just a matter of logistics. If Writer A opens Chapter1.fm and
inserts a cross-reference to Chapter2.fm which is currently opened by
Writer B, then that will fail.

To succesfully be able to insert an inter-chapter cross-reference,
Writer A needs all chapters to be writeable. After inserting the
cross-reference, Writer A must save all chapters. Frame puts a
cross-ref marker on the heading to which the cross-reference is made.

An easy way around this is to coordinate the placing of
cross-references at certain times during the project.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:

 I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
 framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
 basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
 individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
 individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
 cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
 my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
 opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
 would be particularly helpful.
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Re: Shortcut Control keys - Part deux

2010-02-24 Thread Alan Litchfield
I endorse what Winifred has said. I have used the odd window capture software 
before but they have always proven to be more fiddly than using Print Screen 
and dumping into a new Photoshop file thus (assuming the application I am 
writing about is running on my local machine):

1. Working in FM, ALT-TAB to application
2. Perform the task or go to the correct window configuration. Press PRINT 
SCREEN
3. ALT-TAB to Photoshop and open a new file. The new file will have the same 
dimensions as the image data stored on the clipboard.
4. CTRL-V to paste into Photoshop file and manipulate as necessary.
5. Save the file with obvious filename and import into FM.

OK. Not a 1-click process but then I have rarely ever found the exact process 
to be the same, time after time. Always there are slight variations, such as in 
steps 2, 4, and 5.

Alan

On 25/02/2010, at 2:53 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

 Hi Corinne,
 
 If your requirements aren't too extraordinary (e.g. open menus,
 hidden content, delayed capture), you can also use the common 
 PRINT or ALT+PRINT shortcut and paste the screenshot from the 
 clipboard into your favorite graphics software (CTRL+v). There 
 you can do whatever you wanted to do with Snagit et al. (I assume 
 you have Photoshop, Corel PaintShop Pro, Corel Photo-Paint, Gimp 
 or a similar application).
 
 2 keyboard shortcuts instead of 1. But no additional software,
 no problems with shortcuts.
 
 Best regards
 
 Winfried
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Corinne Kenney
 Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:45 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Shortcut Control keys - Part deux
 
 Thanks to all for your previous comments about my problems 
 with shortcut keys not working in FrameMaker. The problem was 
 Snagit. As long as I don't have Snagit open, FrameMaker hums 
 along nicely. (As nicely as FM9 CAN hum along...) However... 
 I still need to capture screens. Has anyone who has had this 
 problem used another capture utility that doesn't interfere 
 with FM? I have the free version of ScreenHunter, but I can't 
 edit the captures. I can upgrade and get the version that 
 can. Does anyone else have ScreenHunter, or another recommendation?
 
 Any insights or advice? Thanks in advance.
 
 Corinne Kenney
 Technical Documetation
 OpenTV
 Golden, Colorado
 

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RE: Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
I haven't found that to be a problem in FM9 p250 - when Writer A is in 
Chapter1.fm and makes a cross-ref to Writer B's Chapter2.fm, Writer A gets the 
dialog about Chapter2.fm being edited, but you can choose View and place your 
x-ref anyway. When they both get saved, it seems to preserve the x-ref fine. 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:34 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Opening book files without opening the book

It's just a matter of logistics. If Writer A opens Chapter1.fm and inserts a 
cross-reference to Chapter2.fm which is currently opened by Writer B, then that 
will fail.

To succesfully be able to insert an inter-chapter cross-reference, Writer A 
needs all chapters to be writeable. After inserting the cross-reference, Writer 
A must save all chapters. Frame puts a cross-ref marker on the heading to which 
the cross-reference is made.

An easy way around this is to coordinate the placing of cross-references at 
certain times during the project.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:

 I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to 
 framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near 
 daily basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before 
 editing individual files within that book. My concern is that by 
 working in an individual file without opening the book, that errors 
 such as broken cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other 
 errors may occur. Is my concern founded, or is it ok to edit 
 individual book files without ever opening the book?  If anyone has a 
 link to a discussion of this topic, that would be particularly helpful.
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Re: Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 24/02/2010 9:56 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:

 I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
 framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
 basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
 individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
 individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
 cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
 my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
 opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
 would be particularly helpful.
 ___


Opening the book file doesn't prevent any of the errors you mention. 
There's no requirement to open the book file before editing chapters, 
but I find it convenient to do so.  If I'm working in one chapter and 
want to check something that is in a different chapter, it's easier to 
open that file with a double-click in the book window than to deal with 
the file/folder hierarchy of the OS.

Where it really makes a difference to have the book file open is when 
you make PDFs.  If the book file is open, cross-file cross-ref's in the 
chapter PDF files will point to locations in book.pdf, whereas if not, 
they'll point to locations in other_chapter.pdf.

HTH,

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RE: Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Fred Ridder

What Steve says is all true, of course, but it really has nothing to do with 
the question of whether a writer needs to have the book file open before 
working on any chapter. 

 

The answer to the question Timothy asked is no, there is no requirement for the 
book file to be open whenever a chapter is being worked on. One of the key 
benefits of FrameMaker is the way that multiple authors can work completely 
independently on modules of information (e.g. chapters) without regard for how 
they will ultimately be assembled into published deliverables. If you had to 
always have the book file open, it would effectively preclude you from ever 
being able to use one chapter with common information (e.g. a list of standard 
references or a common glossary) from being used in more than one book, which 
is another benefit of the FrameMaker book paradigm.

 

-Fred Ridder

 
 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:33:49 -0600
 Subject: Re: Opening book files without opening the book
 From: chinask...@gmail.com
 To: tdew...@charter.net
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 It's just a matter of logistics. If Writer A opens Chapter1.fm and
 inserts a cross-reference to Chapter2.fm which is currently opened by
 Writer B, then that will fail.
 
 To succesfully be able to insert an inter-chapter cross-reference,
 Writer A needs all chapters to be writeable. After inserting the
 cross-reference, Writer A must save all chapters. Frame puts a
 cross-ref marker on the heading to which the cross-reference is made.
 
 An easy way around this is to coordinate the placing of
 cross-references at certain times during the project.
 
 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net wrote:
 
  I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
  framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
  basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
  individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
  individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
  cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
  my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
  opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
  would be particularly helpful.
  
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Systec Toolbox

2010-02-24 Thread Pat Christenson
Hi all -

I've recommended this plug-in to a friend however it appears that  
Systec no longer has an English language version of their website.  
Any help?

Thanks in advance.

Pat Christenson
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Re: Systec Toolbox

2010-02-24 Thread Mike Wickham
They are no longer Systec. The new site is http://www.squidds.de/en/

Mike Wickham

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 I've recommended this plug-in to a friend however it appears that
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Shortcut Control keys - Part deux

2010-02-24 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Corinne,

If your requirements aren't too extraordinary (e.g. open menus,
hidden content, delayed capture), you can also use the common 
PRINT or ALT+PRINT shortcut and paste the screenshot from the 
clipboard into your favorite graphics software (CTRL+v). There 
you can do whatever you wanted to do with Snagit et al. (I assume 
you have Photoshop, Corel PaintShop Pro, Corel Photo-Paint, Gimp 
or a similar application).

2 keyboard shortcuts instead of 1. But no additional software,
no problems with shortcuts.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Corinne Kenney
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:45 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Shortcut Control keys - Part deux
> 
> Thanks to all for your previous comments about my problems 
> with shortcut keys not working in FrameMaker. The problem was 
> Snagit. As long as I don't have Snagit open, FrameMaker hums 
> along nicely. (As nicely as FM9 CAN hum along...) However... 
> I still need to capture screens. Has anyone who has had this 
> problem used another capture utility that doesn't interfere 
> with FM? I have the free version of ScreenHunter, but I can't 
> edit the captures. I can upgrade and get the version that 
> can. Does anyone else have ScreenHunter, or another recommendation?
> 
> Any insights or advice? Thanks in advance.
> 
> Corinne Kenney
> Technical Documetation
> OpenTV
> Golden, Colorado


Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy DeWees

I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
would be particularly helpful. 


Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Art Campbell
It's possible to create those kinds of errors if you delete markers in
the open file, but if you have View Text Objects turned on, they're
fairly visible and easy to avoid changing.

If you make the markers invisible, it makes it a lot more likely that
you trash something you want to preserve...

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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> I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
> framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
> basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
> individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
> individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
> cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
> my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
> opening the book? ?If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
> would be particularly helpful.
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Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Timothy,

You do not have to open the book file in order to work on documents that are
contained in that book.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com


I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
would be particularly helpful. 




Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Steve Johnson
It's just a matter of logistics. If Writer A opens Chapter1.fm and
inserts a cross-reference to Chapter2.fm which is currently opened by
Writer B, then that will fail.

To succesfully be able to insert an inter-chapter cross-reference,
Writer A needs all chapters to be writeable. After inserting the
cross-reference, Writer A must save all chapters. Frame puts a
cross-ref marker on the heading to which the cross-reference is made.

An easy way around this is to coordinate the placing of
cross-references at certain times during the project.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Timothy DeWees  wrote:
>
> I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
> framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
> basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
> individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
> individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
> cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
> my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
> opening the book? ?If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
> would be particularly helpful.
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Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
I haven't found that to be a problem in FM9 p250 - when Writer A is in 
Chapter1.fm and makes a cross-ref to Writer B's Chapter2.fm, Writer A gets the 
dialog about Chapter2.fm being edited, but you can choose View and place your 
x-ref anyway. When they both get saved, it seems to preserve the x-ref fine. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:34 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Opening book files without opening the book

It's just a matter of logistics. If Writer A opens Chapter1.fm and inserts a 
cross-reference to Chapter2.fm which is currently opened by Writer B, then that 
will fail.

To succesfully be able to insert an inter-chapter cross-reference, Writer A 
needs all chapters to be writeable. After inserting the cross-reference, Writer 
A must save all chapters. Frame puts a cross-ref marker on the heading to which 
the cross-reference is made.

An easy way around this is to coordinate the placing of cross-references at 
certain times during the project.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Timothy DeWees  wrote:
>
> I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to 
> framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near 
> daily basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before 
> editing individual files within that book. My concern is that by 
> working in an individual file without opening the book, that errors 
> such as broken cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other 
> errors may occur. Is my concern founded, or is it ok to edit 
> individual book files without ever opening the book? ?If anyone has a 
> link to a discussion of this topic, that would be particularly helpful.
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Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 24/02/2010 9:56 AM, Timothy DeWees wrote:
>
> I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
> framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
> basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
> individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
> individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
> cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
> my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
> opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
> would be particularly helpful.
> ___


Opening the book file doesn't prevent any of the errors you mention. 
There's no requirement to open the book file before editing chapters, 
but I find it convenient to do so.  If I'm working in one chapter and 
want to check something that is in a different chapter, it's easier to 
open that file with a double-click in the book window than to deal with 
the file/folder hierarchy of the OS.

Where it really makes a difference to have the book file open is when 
you make PDFs.  If the book file is open, cross-file cross-ref's in the 
chapter PDF files will point to locations in book.pdf, whereas if not, 
they'll point to locations in other_chapter.pdf.

HTH,

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Opening book files without opening the book

2010-02-24 Thread Fred Ridder

What Steve says is all true, of course, but it really has nothing to do with 
the question of whether a writer needs to have the book file open before 
working on any chapter. 



The answer to the question Timothy asked is no, there is no requirement for the 
book file to be open whenever a chapter is being worked on. One of the key 
benefits of FrameMaker is the way that multiple authors can work completely 
independently on modules of information (e.g. chapters) without regard for how 
they will ultimately be assembled into published deliverables. If you had to 
always have the book file open, it would effectively preclude you from ever 
being able to use one chapter with common information (e.g. a list of standard 
references or a common glossary) from being used in more than one book, which 
is another benefit of the FrameMaker book paradigm.



-Fred Ridder


> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:33:49 -0600
> Subject: Re: Opening book files without opening the book
> From: chinaski69 at gmail.com
> To: tdewees at charter.net
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> It's just a matter of logistics. If Writer A opens Chapter1.fm and
> inserts a cross-reference to Chapter2.fm which is currently opened by
> Writer B, then that will fail.
> 
> To succesfully be able to insert an inter-chapter cross-reference,
> Writer A needs all chapters to be writeable. After inserting the
> cross-reference, Writer A must save all chapters. Frame puts a
> cross-ref marker on the heading to which the cross-reference is made.
> 
> An easy way around this is to coordinate the placing of
> cross-references at certain times during the project.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Timothy DeWees  
> wrote:
> >
> > I am currently working with a couple of other people who are new to
> > framemaker. I've been using frame for a bit over two years on a near daily
> > basis. I use the practice of always opening a frame book before editing
> > individual files within that book. My concern is that by working in an
> > individual file without opening the book, that errors such as broken
> > cross-references, re-mapping of text insets, or other errors may occur. Is
> > my concern founded, or is it ok to edit individual book files without ever
> > opening the book?  If anyone has a link to a discussion of this topic, that
> > would be particularly helpful.



Systec Toolbox

2010-02-24 Thread Pat Christenson
Hi all -

I've recommended this plug-in to a friend however it appears that  
Systec no longer has an English language version of their website.  
Any help?

Thanks in advance.

Pat Christenson