Re: PnP problems on install floppy in 4.0-SNAPS from current.freebsd.org
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Rabson writes: : Due to the nature of the pnp code, it might be probed as ed1 instead of : ed0. I have a SBC here that has an onboard PNP ne2000 chip on it. It comes up as ed1 because I have ed0 at a wired address. I don't see ed0 at all, and it just works, so I just hacked my rc.conf to use ed1 rather than ed0 like I did when it ran 3.3R. Now for the obligitory tangent: Does FreeBSD have the ability to reassign IRQs for PNP devices? I have one that is coming up at IRQ 5, but I have a non-PNP device that is at 5, but many other IRQs free. There is no way in the BIOS to set which IRQs are used for PNP and which ones are designated for legacy devices. Right now, one can hack isa_find_irq() to restrict which interrupts it checks. I have been thinking about using a loader environment variable for this. One existing problem is that a pci device which doesn't match a driver does not reserve its irq resource. Fixing that still leaves the case of an unknown non-pnp isa device though. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: COMMAND_SET ?
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: I'm looking at sys/boot/common/pnp.c so I can find out how pnp is handled, and I found something called a COMMAND_SET, and I can't figure out what it means. Any takers? COMMAND_SET is a macro which is used to build the list of commands supported by the loader. The in-kernel pnp code is in sys/isa/{pnp.c,pnpparse.c,isa_common.c}. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: How to report problems (was: Request for Flames)
Greg, Actually, I used your page (or its predecessor, it looks different now) back when I started. ;) I'd like to do something more detailed on each type of problem. Eventually, I'd like to turn this into a troubleshooting helper for the most common problems. But information gathering is the first step. Yes, "troubleshooting wizards" might be beneath FreeBSD's target market, but with the sort of questions we get on -questions -- or even -hackers -- I think it would be worthwhile. Anything to slow the growth of the mailing lists. ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Abit's BP6 and 'lmmon' or 'chm'
In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris D. Faulhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Nickolay Dudorov wrote: Does anybody successfully use ports/sysutils/{lmmon|chm} with the Abit's BP6 motherboard ? After 'make install'-ing ports and adding controller smbus0 controller iicbus0 controller iicbb0 controller intpm0 device smb0 at smbus? to kernel config file (and config, make depend, make, make install, reboot the new kernel) I only receive: IOCTL: device not configured from lmmon and chm. This is due to the intpm controller not configuring the motherboards PM controller, not because the software. I emailed Takanori Watanabe a while back concerning this MB. His thoughts were that: 1) He hadn't heard of the driver working in an SMP environment; 2) It may be due to the controller using an unconfigured ISA interface. Additional information: When I remove one of the CPUs and boot UP kernel on the same motherboard both 'chm' and 'lmmon' starts to work (also showed values for -5V and -12V looks strange). So the problems is in driver not working in SMP system. Are there any (general) hints where to look for such UP/SMP problems ? N.Dudorov To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Abit's BP6 and 'lmmon' or 'chm'
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris D. Faulhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I remove one of the CPUs and boot UP kernel on the same motherboard both 'chm' and 'lmmon' starts to work (also showed values for -5V and -12V looks strange). Probably the Hardware sensor is not LM78/79 but W83781. So the problems is in driver not working in SMP system. Are there any (general) hints where to look for such UP/SMP problems ? I know the problem,but I cannot find out how it could be solved. The reason is the driver does not catch intrrupt. Wait a few days. I'll make a patch so that you can use polling mode for 'intpm'. Takanori Watanabe a href="http://www.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp/~takawata/key.html" Public Key/a Key fingerprint = 2C 51 E2 78 2C E1 C5 2D 0F F1 20 A3 11 3A 62 2A To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch
Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:11 PM +0200 1999/10/12, Andre Oppermann wrote: They must be crazy to run a several million recipients mailing list with sendmail... You don't know all the hacks that they made to sendmail to make it perform at previously unheard of levels. ;-) Preciously unheard levels for sendmail? Who want's spend weeks or days of sendmail tuning to get a peak performace of x when it takes ten minutes to download and install qmail or postfix which delivers that as sustained performance?? If you want to see some of the ideas that I got from them (and others), take a look at the paper I presented at SANE'98 entitled "Sendmail Performance Tuning for Large Systems" at http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/papers/sendmail-tuning/. Nice paper! Most of the suggestions are already realized in qmail and postfix. The best is on page three, "handle at least tens of thousands messages per day per server"... About a year ago I tested qmail's performace with two old 486DX100/16MB/2GBIDE and 10BaseT ethernet. Guess what I was able to pump through them? 300'000 unique messages of about 3KB in 24 hours. Guess what my current production server can handle a day (PII-350/256MB/54GBSCSIRAID0+1)? About 2.5 million (too bad I don't have a T3). These numbers include the local deliveries to the maildir. There are a number of additional enhancements that they made that I still can't talk about, however. As long as these additional performance enhancements are not public available I don't care. -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch
Ben, Majordomo has this facility, sending periodic reminder messages; it is the bounces mailing list . I used it for a couple months. The results were less than satisfactory. Most people stayed on the bounces mailing list indefinately. ;( jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Still waiting for xl driver reports
Jim Bloom wrote: I keep seeing a watchdog timeout with my 3c905B-TX every time the machine boots. It seems to occur after everything has been probed and /etc/rc has completed; around the time I get my login banner. I am running the dhcp client to get my IP address. I don't pound on the network very much so I can't tell you how performance is. Jim Bloom I get the same.. dmesg: -- xl0: 3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:da:07:87:4c .. sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A sio2: not probed (disabled) sio3: not probed (disabled) changing root device to wd0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted xl0: watchdog timeout xl0: promiscuous mode enabled xl0: watchdog timeout uname: -- FreeBSD asho.zarathushtra.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Oct 12 14:23:39 EDT 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/SPENTA_MAINYU i386 -- === Thomas Stromberg, Assistant IS Manager / Systems Guru smtp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Triangle Commerce, Inc. pots://919.380.9771 x3210 === To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
ipfilter no longer in -CURRENT, whats the direction? (off to ipfw?)
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/ipnat/Attic/Makefile 1.2 Sun Oct 10 15:08:35 1999 UTC by peter CVS Tags: HEAD Diffs to 1.1 FILE REMOVED Nuke the old antique copy of ipfilter from the tree. This is old enough to be dangerous. It will better serve us as a port building a KLD, ala SKIP. Although a heads up in -CURRENT or -security about this would of been nice, ye old ipfilter is gone. I definitely cannot disagree with the fact that it is an antique copy, and it's a shame that no one seems to be taking care of it in the tree. At least in the past, ipfilter was for many a much better option then ipfw. Has ipfw improved to the point where it functions better as a company firewall then ipfilter? (Okay, so the group user firewalling is neat, but not really applicable for a corporate border firewall) ipfilters website: http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html For why I feel ipfilter is better then ipfw (this post was written back in December '98, ipfw may have changed greatly since): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=117538+122112+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-current/19981227.freebsd-current (the big 'wanton atticizing discussion') A summary of it being: - Multiplatform. Runs on IRIX, Solaris, Linux. Comes shipped with FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD. Keeps us in sync with the other BSD's. - Better logging then ipfw (has ipfw improved? Thats why I switched to ipfilter in the first place) It's a shame that no one seems to want to maintain ipfilter in our tree. As far as a 'port building kld', I think this may not be the 'smartest' way, seeing as anyone who is running a serious firewall would disable kld's immediately anyhow. So my question is, what's the direction we're taking here? -- === Thomas Stromberg, Assistant IS Manager / Systems Guru smtp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Triangle Commerce, Inc. pots://919.380.9771 x3210 === To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: ipfilter no longer in -CURRENT, whats the direction? (off to ipfw?)
Well, if someone had of answered my question (to cvs-committers) about getting an account fixed up on freefall(?) so I could use cvs again, it might not have been forgotten about for quite so long. Maybe I sent the question to the "wrong place", but I received no answer to even indicate that! hmpf! On a conspirital note, I think there are numerous ipfw advocates within freebsd who hate that ipfilter is better ;-) Both NetBSD and OpenBSD ship with it, and if you're serious about security, maybe you should be using OpenBSD anyway, rather than FreeBSD. Darren In some mail from Thomas Stromberg, sie said: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/ipnat/Attic/Makefile 1.2 Sun Oct 10 15:08:35 1999 UTC by peter CVS Tags: HEAD Diffs to 1.1 FILE REMOVED Nuke the old antique copy of ipfilter from the tree. This is old enough to be dangerous. It will better serve us as a port building a KLD, ala SKIP. Although a heads up in -CURRENT or -security about this would of been nice, ye old ipfilter is gone. I definitely cannot disagree with the fact that it is an antique copy, and it's a shame that no one seems to be taking care of it in the tree. At least in the past, ipfilter was for many a much better option then ipfw. Has ipfw improved to the point where it functions better as a company firewall then ipfilter? (Okay, so the group user firewalling is neat, but not really applicable for a corporate border firewall) ipfilters website: http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html For why I feel ipfilter is better then ipfw (this post was written back in December '98, ipfw may have changed greatly since): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=117538+122112+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-current/19981227.freebsd-current (the big 'wanton atticizing discussion') A summary of it being: - Multiplatform. Runs on IRIX, Solaris, Linux. Comes shipped with FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD. Keeps us in sync with the other BSD's. - Better logging then ipfw (has ipfw improved? Thats why I switched to ipfilter in the first place) It's a shame that no one seems to want to maintain ipfilter in our tree. As far as a 'port building kld', I think this may not be the 'smartest' way, seeing as anyone who is running a serious firewall would disable kld's immediately anyhow. So my question is, what's the direction we're taking here? -- === Thomas Stromberg, Assistant IS Manager / Systems Guru smtp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Triangle Commerce, Inc. pots://919.380.9771 x3210 === To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch
At 4:19 PM +0200 1999/10/13, Andre Oppermann wrote: That is something qmail has done since the beginning. With respect to qmail, I have no knowledge of that. I do know that this feature was available in the first public beta of Postfix. It was introduced early in the "alpha" stage of Postfix, which from Wietse would be comparable to the late beta, gamma, or even "release" stages of software from many other authors. I consider qmail and postfix equal, one is stronger in one direction whereas the other one is stronger in other aspects. I am not aware of any advantages that qmail has over Postfix. However, I am aware of a number of advantages that I believe Postfix has over qmail. Of course, this is more of that religious issue that we should only get into on private e-mail. I have no intend to "fight" religiously for qmail, the only thing I do is pointing out the strong aspects of qmail/ezmlm for big lists. Support for VERPs definitely has its advantages, and I believe that this has long since been incorporated into Postfix. Of course, I could be wrong -- it's been a very long time since I did much of anything with it, and I could be mis-remembering this feature. I would like, but you just said you would (can) not tell me about it... At the moment, all I can say is that you should keep a very close eye on the releases of Sendmail Pro. I expect these features to be incorporated into that code first, then make their way into RFCs, and be released as part of the freely available version of sendmail shortly thereafter. Imagine orders of magnitude levels of reduction in the amount of traffic that would have to be transmitted to a remote MTA that serves more than one customer. In fact, you could have MTAs distributed all around the world that have their own portion of the world that they serve, with very small amounts of data (streamed, even) that must be transmitted in order to serve the set of customers. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy |o| Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
k4 and pam
it seems that, sans warning or UPDATE, pam is now used by k4. but the distributed pam.conf has not been hacked to make it obvious how to make all this work. is anyone working on this, or should i? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: ipfilter no longer in -CURRENT, whats the direction? (off to ipfw?)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Stromberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For why I feel ipfilter is better then ipfw (this post was written back in December '98, ipfw may have changed greatly since): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=117538+122112+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-current/19981227.freebsd-current (the big 'wanton atticizing discussion') A summary of it being: - Multiplatform. Runs on IRIX, Solaris, Linux. Comes shipped with FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD. Keeps us in sync with the other BSD's. - Better logging then ipfw (has ipfw improved? Thats why I switched to ipfilter in the first place) And: - IP filter does NAT completely inside the kernel - IP filter has stateful filtering I'd like to see it come back. But that means it has to be brought up to date first. John -- John Polstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] John D. Polstra Co., Inc.Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up."-- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: ipfilter no longer in -CURRENT, whats the direction? (off toipfw?)
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Thomas Stromberg wrote: So my question is, what's the direction we're taking here? The author was given commit privledges to maintain this in the tree, obviously this was not done. Peter encouraged a KLD port, and I hope someone steps up and makes one. Others have eluded to upgrading it, but I never see those imports. It's a shame, but I'm glad that Peter cleared the bitrot. -- - bill fumerola - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Iomega Ditto Max Parallel
Has anyone had any success using the parallel version of the Iomega Ditto Max with current, or is there any support for it? Douglas Kuntz To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: FreeSSH
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: Hi All, It strikes me that having the base system be slightly more decomposed could be advantageous. It would be great to be able to do something like: pkg_delete lp pkg_delete yp Has anyone done/tried this in the past, and if so, what was the reaction? Or what do people think? I realize this sounds a bit like the "everything is an rpm or dpkg" methodology from Linux, but as long as the 'base' packages are handled automatically, then it shouldn't impose the same inconvenience. I just pulled -security and -stable from the CC. I was talking with a friend of mine the other day about making FreeBSD more modular. It would be great if the system were based on "packages" (not like the ports tree, architectually like the current tree, but organizationally like the ports tree). You could have a "net" package (telnet, tn3270, ftp, finger, etc), an "nw" package (which included all new Netware stuff), an xpg compatability package (which has lots of things need for XPG compatability), the yp and lp packages listed above are a good idea, and development package (gdb, lint, etc), a mail package (mail, vacation, biff, comsat, sendmail etc) a perl package, and anything else anyone else wants to abstract out. Then make the "base" anything absolutely required to have an operational system. This has the benefit of allowing the tree to grow and include new functionality and prevent software from being pulled out and stuck in ports (things like stat, tn3270, are much more convient when then are in the tree). A more or less randomly thought out email message. Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: ipfilter no longer in -CURRENT, whats the direction? (off to ipfw?)
Darren Reed writes: Well, if someone had of answered my question (to cvs-committers) about getting an account fixed up on freefall(?) so I could use cvs again, it might not have been forgotten about for quite so long. Maybe I sent the question to the "wrong place", but I received no answer to even indicate that! hmpf! Well, Mark Murray sent heads up note quite a while ago about freebsd.org being converted to use krb5. Send him email and I'm sure he'll help you to fix things. On a conspirital note, I think there are numerous ipfw advocates within freebsd who hate that ipfilter is better ;-) Both NetBSD and OpenBSD ship with it, and if you're serious about security, maybe you should be using OpenBSD anyway, rather than FreeBSD. Let's not start a flame war here. You posted it to FreeBSD mailing list. I think it's fairly easy to imagine peoples reaction. Darren -- dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Proper Whacking Weeding
Marc van Woerkom wrote: Drawback is speed. While CVSup mirrors the CVS repository quite fast I now need an additional cvs update to sync my source tree with the CVS repository. And that is quite slow. (But I am working on a program that will speed up this process) Use a local cvsup daemon, and cvsup the source tree from your cvs repository. Much faster than cvs update. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I always feel generous when I'm in the inner circle of a conspiracy to subvert the world order and, with a small group of allies, just defeated an alien invasion. Maybe I should value myself a little more?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: COMMAND_SET ?
Chuck Robey wrote: I'm looking at sys/boot/common/pnp.c so I can find out how pnp is handled, and I found something called a COMMAND_SET, and I can't figure out what it means. Any takers? It's a macro. :-) I thought it was defined in that same directory, even. It makes a list that is used to define the so-called builtin commands of loader. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I always feel generous when I'm in the inner circle of a conspiracy to subvert the world order and, with a small group of allies, just defeated an alien invasion. Maybe I should value myself a little more?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: ipfilter no longer in -CURRENT, whats the direction? (off to ipfw?)
Thomas Stromberg wrote: It's a shame that no one seems to want to maintain ipfilter in our tree. As far as a 'port building kld', I think this may not be the 'smartest' way, seeing as anyone who is running a serious firewall would disable kld's immediately anyhow. Your concerns notwithstanding, a kld is viable. A kld can be loaded by, well, the loader. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I always feel generous when I'm in the inner circle of a conspiracy to subvert the world order and, with a small group of allies, just defeated an alien invasion. Maybe I should value myself a little more?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Freebsd 4.0 and Linux
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, mariusz wrote: What depth of FreeBSD's support for Linux applications under FreeBSD 4.0? Pretty good - most things run without problems. But, the only definitive answer is "try it and see". Does the support comply with our current requirements for Linux?: minimum kernel version: 2.0.34 We don't implement the Linux kernel as a whole; it's the API which is implemented in FreeBSD's Linux mode (i.e. system calls). There aren't many differences in this regard between the linux kernel versions. minimum glibc version: 2.0.7-19 The linux-base port currently installs glibc-2.0.7-29, but you're free to add/remove RPMs as you see fit, just as with linux :-) Kris XOR for AES -- join the campaign! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Why Adaptec 1540 bombing?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Darryl Okahata writes: : If he can't, I've got a 1540A somewhere (in theory ;-) that I'd be : willing to lend out (if the address is in the US). It's been years : since I've used it, and so I'm not 100% sure that it still works, : though. Well, I could install 2.2.x onto a disk and see if that works there. Once I do that, I can then know if it works or not. :-) Warner Warner and Darryl. The 2.2.x series seems to work fine on it (what I am using on that machine now). I also have a 1542C controller that I could try. Would that one be expected to be any different from the 1540A? I also have a Future Domain 16xx controller, and a DPT 2012 series controller (the original dos EISA controller that was in the machine). My goal with the machine (a 1993ish Intel EISA board with 32M ram, Phoenix bios, and badged Groupe Bull) was to try the 3.3 and 4.x builds for some play. I have been running 3.2 or 3.3 on all my other boxes, just fine on IDE controllers. Since I ran across these scsi controllers I was thinking of trying them. The DPT did not run at all. The 1540A did not run the 3.3 or 3.2, but came up fine on 2.2.6 or 2.2.8. That got me to thinking that something had changed in the Adaptec driver and query what and why. Any insights are appreciated. If you need the board for testing, I could probably arrange that, or, if you have a test snapshot I could pick up, I could try that too. What specific info would you need from dmesg (assuming it will go far enough to get some messages) or elsewhere? From memory, I think it got as far as listing the controller and/or drives attached, then went off polling for devices and never came back. It did that from the 3.3-RELEASE and the 4.0-19990918 snap (if I have my numbers correct on the snap). I don't think I tried 3.0/3.1/3.2 on it. Thanks Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: SMP stack faults...
Just a followup question on my question from a week ago or so ther was indeed a stack overflow I'd guess- I check the code path more carefully and there was a 2KB stack buffer there (oof)- and removing it seemed to make the problem go awaySo the question here is "Shouldn't this have been a more obvious fault"? There's probably an argument here for putting a guard page below the UP-mode kernel stack, yes. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
make buildworld breaks during vinum compilation
I got a stop here: root@oranje# date; make buildworld Wed Oct 13 15:34:04 CEST 1999 (...) cc -O -pipe -DVINUMDEBUG -g -O -DKERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/modules/vinum -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/@ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c: In function `vinumioctl': /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c:333: too few arguments to function `initsd' *** Error code 1 The verify argument seems missing: root@oranje# grep initsd ../../dev/vinum/* ../../dev/vinum/vinumext.h:int initsd(int, int); ../../dev/vinum/vinumio.h:int verify; /* verify (initsd) */ ../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c:return initsd(objno); ../../dev/vinum/vinumrevive.c:initsd(int sdno, int verify) ../../dev/vinum/vinumstate.c:ioctl_reply-error = initsd(objindex, data-verify); /* initialize another block */ Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Freebsd 4.0 and Linux
Hi What depth of FreeBSD's support for Linux applications under FreeBSD 4.0? I can't seem to find adequate information online. Does the support comply with our current requirements for Linux?: minimum kernel version: 2.0.34 minimum glibc version: 2.0.7-19 Current state of the art is somewhere between RedHat 5.2 and RedHat 6.0. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: ipfilter no longer in -CURRENT, whats the direction? (off to ipfw?)
I also must agree for many tasks, IP filter proves superior than IPFW and NATD for many things which I do. It seems much more straightforward, more configurable, and also in many respects more stable and reliable. It would not bother me in the least if they simply yanked ipfw and natd from the src tree, and included ipf/ipnat default (not in contrib). If no one else desires to doso, i'd be happy to maintain whatever communication or porting nessescary to keep it current and included in the standard FreeBSD distribution. On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Thomas Stromberg wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/ipnat/Attic/Makefile 1.2 Sun Oct 10 15:08:35 1999 UTC by peter CVS Tags: HEAD Diffs to 1.1 FILE REMOVED Nuke the old antique copy of ipfilter from the tree. This is old enough to be dangerous. It will better serve us as a port building a KLD, ala SKIP. Although a heads up in -CURRENT or -security about this would of been nice, ye old ipfilter is gone. I definitely cannot disagree with the fact that it is an antique copy, and it's a shame that no one seems to be taking care of it in the tree. At least in the past, ipfilter was for many a much better option then ipfw. Has ipfw improved to the point where it functions better as a company firewall then ipfilter? (Okay, so the group user firewalling is neat, but not really applicable for a corporate border firewall) ipfilters website: http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip-filter.html For why I feel ipfilter is better then ipfw (this post was written back in December '98, ipfw may have changed greatly since): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=117538+122112+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-current/19981227.freebsd-current (the big 'wanton atticizing discussion') A summary of it being: - Multiplatform. Runs on IRIX, Solaris, Linux. Comes shipped with FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD. Keeps us in sync with the other BSD's. - Better logging then ipfw (has ipfw improved? Thats why I switched to ipfilter in the first place) It's a shame that no one seems to want to maintain ipfilter in our tree. As far as a 'port building kld', I think this may not be the 'smartest' way, seeing as anyone who is running a serious firewall would disable kld's immediately anyhow. So my question is, what's the direction we're taking here? -- === Thomas Stromberg, Assistant IS Manager / Systems Guru smtp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Triangle Commerce, Inc. pots://919.380.9771 x3210 === To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Why Adaptec 1540 bombing?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD Bob writes: : The DPT did not run at all. I do not have access to the DPT controllers, nor to a EISA system for testing. : The 1540A did not run the 3.3 or 3.2, : but came up fine on 2.2.6 or 2.2.8. That got me to thinking that : something had changed in the Adaptec driver and query what and why. Yes. CAM happened. :-) The 1540A card had some interesting problems with the setting of residuals which the 1540B and later do not have. CAM requires these transfer counts be accurate or it can get confused. I tried to cope as best I could, but without access to an actual card I couldn't verify that it worked. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: make buildworld breaks during vinum compilation
At 13/10/99, Marc van Woerkom wrote: /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c: In function `vinumioctl': /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c:333: too few arguments to function `initsd' *** Error code 1 Me too ... Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
World breakage in libc_r?
I'm building world on an Alpha and have run into this: building shared library libc_r.so.4 sigpending.So: In function `sigpending': sigpending.S:2: multiple definition of `sigpending' uthread_sigpending.So(.text+0x0):uthread_sigpending.c: first defined here /usr/obj/a/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `sigpending' changed from 68 to 36 in sigpending.So uthread_sigsuspend.So: In function `sigsuspend': uthread_sigsuspend.c(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `sigsuspend' sigsuspend.So:sigsuspend.S:2: first defined here /usr/obj/a/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/ld: Warning: size of symbol `sigsuspend' changed from 36 to 236 in uthread_sigsuspend.So *** Error code 1 I know the cause of it and I know the fix. The cause is this: --- dfr 1999/10/09 05:11:32 PDT Modified files: lib/libc/alpha/sys Makefile.inc Log: Remove old sig* wrappers. Revision ChangesPath 1.6 +2 -3 src/lib/libc/alpha/sys/Makefile.inc --- and the fix is to add sigpending.o and sigsuspend.o to the definition of HIDDEN_SYSCALLS in "src/lib/libc_r/Makefile". But there was a similar commit for the i386 a few hours later, and I haven't heard any complaints about this breakage on i386 systems. I'm reluctant to commit the fix for the Alpha until I understand why not, because it will affect the i386 too. Can any of you shed some light on this? John To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Fwd: RE: /dev/smb0 on Dell Latitude
Thanks for your suggestion. I haven't found anything in the archives that seems to apply. Any help from "current"? -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: RE: /dev/smb0 on Dell Latitude Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 17:53:06 -0500 From: "Alejandro Ramirez" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, You should write this question to [EMAIL PROTECTED], there was some discusion about this. Ales - Original Message - From: Richard Wackerbarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 5:09 PM Subject: /dev/smb0 on Dell Latitude Help! Does anyone have any experience with the smbus on Dell laptops? This is today's kernel. Selected entries in dmesg are below. When I attempt to find devices the ioctl returns "Device not configured" on /dev/smb0. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #9: Wed Oct 13 08:21:53 CDT 1999 CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (267.27-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x650 Stepping = 0 Features=0x183f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV, PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR real memory = 67043328 (65472K bytes) apm0: APM BIOS on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 pcib0: Intel 82443BX host to PCI bridge (AGP disabled) on motherboard pci0: PCI bus on pcib0 vga-pci0: NeoMagic NM2160 laptop SVGA controller irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 pcic0: TI PCI-1131 PCI-CardBus Bridge irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0 pcic1: TI PCI-1131 PCI-CardBus Bridge irq 11 at device 3.1 on pci0 isab0: Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 ide_pci0: Intel PIIX4 Bus-master IDE controller at device 7.1 on pci0 chip1: UHCI USB controller irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 intpm0: Intel 82371AB Power management controller at device 7.3 on pci0 intpm0: I/O mapped 840 intpm0: intr IRQ 9 enabled revision 0 smbus0: System Management Bus on intsmb0 smb0: SMBus general purpose I/O on smbus0 intpm0: PM I/O mapped 800 pcm0: SoundBlaster Pro 3.2 at drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa0 device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6 devclass_alloc_unit: pcf0 already exists, using next available unit number pcf0 at port 0x320 irq 5 on isa0 pcic: pccard bridge VLSI 82C146 (5 mem 2 I/O windows) WARNING: driver smb should register devices with make_dev() (dev_t = "#smb/0") To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: make buildworld breaks during vinum compilation
On Wednesday, 13 October 1999 at 21:38:07 +0200, Marc van Woerkom wrote: I got a stop here: root@oranje# date; make buildworld Wed Oct 13 15:34:04 CEST 1999 (...) cc -O -pipe -DVINUMDEBUG -g -O -DKERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/modules/vinum -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/@ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c: In function `vinumioctl': /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c:333: too few arguments to function `initsd' *** Error code 1 On Wednesday, 13 October 1999 at 23:19:11 +0200, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: Me too ... Pass the pointy hat. I forgot to commit one of the files in the last change. I *did* cvsup and recompile after committing, but I didn't notice that there was an M flag for vinumioctl.c :-( It should all be OK now. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, David Scheidt wrote: On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Kirk McKusick wrote: I would like to take a step back from the debate for a moment and ask the bigger question: How many real-world applications actually use the block device interface? I know of none whatsoever. All the filesystem utilities go out of their way to avoid the block device and use the raw interface. Does anyone on this list know of any programs that need/want the block interface? If there are none, or It doesn't run on FreeBSD, but Sybase uses block devices for its dedicated disk devices. There may be other RDBMSes that do this. Informix, should a miracle occur and they decide to suport FreeBSD, definitely want the same. Chuck Robey| Interests include C programming, Electronics, 213 Lakeside Dr. Apt. T-1 | communications, and signal processing. Greenbelt, MD 20770| I run picnic.mat.net: FreeBSD-current(i386) and (301) 220-2114 | jaunt.mat.net : FreeBSD-current(Alpha) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Scheidt writes: : It doesn't run on FreeBSD, but Sybase uses block devices for its dedicated : disk devices. There may be other RDBMSes that do this. EVERY RDBMS that I've ever seen or had to make work with my drivers has been on the raw partition. This is because the database writers DO NOT LIKE OR TRUST the buffer cache due to its non-deterministic nature of disk writing. Are you sure that Sybase uses BLOCK devices and not CHAR devices? Gawd, now that I think of it, about my Informix post, you're right, they use a raw partition, and their own buffering. Warner Chuck Robey| Interests include C programming, Electronics, 213 Lakeside Dr. Apt. T-1 | communications, and signal processing. Greenbelt, MD 20770| I run picnic.mat.net: FreeBSD-current(i386) and (301) 220-2114 | jaunt.mat.net : FreeBSD-current(Alpha) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
linux emulation broken..
It has been getting worse and worse for me recently. The two applications where it is noticeable are netscape, and word (im)perfect. I was using the linux version of netscape, until recently when it began hanging for long periods of time during network or disk activity. For a while with WP, it was fairly useable, except I could not print with it. Now though, I can't even save files, it hangs at the Save As dialog. I'm sorry I can't be more specific, but with a kernel from today it is still broken. I don't have time to go into it any further right now, but I thought I would check if others are having similar difficulties. I have a lot to do, and it is just extremely irritating right now. I swear, nothing relating to linux ever works.. I have the pleasure of using at it work on a regular basis, and it has been nothing but a complete PITA. So much time wasted. Sorry, I couldn't help including my $0.02 wrt linux.. Chris Csanady To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
intpm(4) polling patch
If you get "Device not configured" message, apply following patch and do 'sysctl -w hw.intpm_poll=1'.If your system is SMP, 'hw.intpm_poll' value is 1 as a default.(Not tested.) This is not *the right* solution,but it will work I think. Takanori Watanabe a href="http://www.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp/~takawata/key.html" Public Key/a Key fingerprint = 2C 51 E2 78 2C E1 C5 2D 0F F1 20 A3 11 3A 62 2A --- /home/ctm/src/sys/pci/intpm.c Fri Sep 3 03:16:24 1999 +++ intpm.c Thu Oct 14 12:25:28 1999 @@ -43,9 +43,9 @@ #include sys/rman.h #include machine/resource.h #include dev/smbus/smbconf.h - +#include sys/sysctl.h #include "smbus_if.h" - +#include "smp.h" /*This should be removed if force_pci_map_int supported*/ #include sys/interrupt.h @@ -90,6 +90,9 @@ static int intpm_attach (device_t dev); static devclass_t intsmb_devclass; +static int intpm_poll=0; +SYSCTL_INT(_hw, OID_AUTO, intpm_poll, CTLFLAG_RW, intpm_poll, 1, ""); + static device_method_t intpm_methods[]={ DEVMETHOD(device_probe,intsmb_probe), DEVMETHOD(device_attach,intsmb_attach), @@ -379,7 +382,7 @@ int error; intrmask_t s; struct intsmb_softc *sc = (struct intsmb_softc *)device_get_softc(dev); - if(cold){ + if(cold||intpm_poll!=0){ /*So that it can use device during probing device on SMBus.*/ error=intsmb_stop_poll(dev); return error; @@ -656,7 +659,10 @@ device_t smbinterface; int rid; struct resource *res; - +#if NSMP0 + device_printf(dev,"SMP system so polling mode is default\n"); + intpm_poll=1; +#endif sciic=device_get_softc(dev); if(sciic==NULL){ return ENOMEM; To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: package-like feature for the base distrib (was Re: FreeSSH)
Hi, From: Pierre Beyssac [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are a _lot_ of pitfalls to this kind of approach, as I have discovered using Linux Debian. This would probably open a can of worms you have no idea of. IMHO, the single biggest mistake in Debian is the all-encompassing package system which can make your life miserable in no time. [...] I was not talking about things that constitute the "real" core of the distribution (kernel, basic libraries etc.). I was more thinking about "userland" stuff that is included in the distribution but might not be required by everybody. Sendmail for example is something I don't want since I user qmail. However I have to remove it by hand... Other examples are bind or perl. Basically I think anything that has an equivalent and/or an alternate installation method in/via the "ports" system should be registered with the rest of the packages. And, IMHO, package handling for general-purpose applications and package handling for the core system are a very different problem and should be handled in very different ways. Agreed. This is the key. The package/ports system is really great as is. The split between the distribution and the packages/ports is sometime annoying. Again I think this mostly concerns "userland" features that are not required for the core of FreeBSD. Patrick. -- MindStep Corporation www.mindstep.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message