Re: SVBUG what happened tonight (12-04-2003)
At 08:33 AM 12/7/03 -0800, Daniel P. Kionka wrote: Doesn't a white-list lock out new people? Like what is the use of listing contact info on a web page if no one can get through? Dan, Thanks for waiting on a response. There is a common misconception about white lists. While your comment is along those lines, it is not unusual. The common misconception about white lists is that it is a exclusive list of allowed email. This is not the case. In fact, it is just a list of emails that get priority. I am by no means advocating, or suggesting, that a person use white lists as the only people one should get email from. As for public contact via email, there are solutions, but that is part of my talk. I plan to present these points again, at many different club meetings. My impression, as with ssh, is that the technical community is spending too much time on the wrong problem. Sure one might make lots of money selling knock-off copies of Spam-Assassin, but it does not solve the issue. For that matter, neither Spam-Assassin nor Bayesian(sp?) filters will make a bit of difference in the long run. Sure someone will profess to have great success with it, but I hardly find that to be the general case. Before I digress into dribble, let me leave it at that. As for [EMAIL PROTECTED], et al. :p Have a nice day, Dan. Jessem. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SVBUG what happened tonight (12-04-2003)
Announcement for 2003-12-04 Topic: What happened to me tonight. The reflections of a night can at times be beyond one's control. To make it short, I got in a car accident tonight. I am okay, nothing wrong; just a shaken realization. As the CHP officer said, your still alive. And I am glad of that. My vehicle is totaled and replacement will not be easy. At least not as easy as when I worked in the tech sector. My decision has been and always will be to stay in computers. However, it's a pity that my life decisions are not as good a my technical. (some might argue otherwise). To surmise I'm a bit melancholy, but what's important to you is this: Jon Syrstad of Ampex has confirmed that my findings that using a white list is the key to avoiding spam. He estimates that within a month his job of reviewing the daily SPAM from 8 times a day for legitamite email to once. Jon uses a full set of tools and is personally charged by the CEO to reduce SPAM. He has both commercial and open source tools. None have been or will every be as effective as a white list, consisting of family, friends, business associates and people you really want to talk to. So, as a local company selling cell phone service likes to say, get off 'their' clock, permission to speak freely. Thank You Jessem. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVBUG what happened tonight (12-04-2003)
Hi Could you please discuss spam issues on a spam list. Your mail has nothing to do with FreeBSD. I'm sorry about your car accident, but that is also not hackers@ material. It is, however OK for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Announcement for 2003-12-04 Topic: What happened to me tonight. The reflections of a night can at times be beyond one's control. To make it short, I got in a car accident tonight. I am okay, nothing wrong; just a shaken realization. As the CHP officer said, your still alive. And I am glad of that. My vehicle is totaled and replacement will not be easy. At least not as easy as when I worked in the tech sector. My decision has been and always will be to stay in computers. However, it's a pity that my life decisions are not as good a my technical. (some might argue otherwise). To surmise I'm a bit melancholy, but what's important to you is this: Jon Syrstad of Ampex has confirmed that my findings that using a white list is the key to avoiding spam. He estimates that within a month his job of reviewing the daily SPAM from 8 times a day for legitamite email to once. Jon uses a full set of tools and is personally charged by the CEO to reduce SPAM. He has both commercial and open source tools. None have been or will every be as effective as a white list, consisting of family, friends, business associates and people you really want to talk to. So, as a local company selling cell phone service likes to say, get off 'their' clock, permission to speak freely. Thank You Jessem. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Murray iumop ap!sdn w,I idlaH ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVBUG what happened tonight (12-04-2003)
At 08:11 AM 12/5/03 +, Mark Murray wrote: Hi Could you please discuss spam issues on a spam list. Your mail has nothing to do with FreeBSD. I'm sorry about your car accident, but that is also not hackers@ material. It is, however OK for [EMAIL PROTECTED] My friend... let me make this clear to you. My car accident no matter. You are an idiot. Get your head out of your ass. Thank you Jessem. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVBUG what happened tonight (12-04-2003)
At 08:11 AM 12/5/03 +, Mark Murray wrote: Hi Could you please discuss spam issues on a spam list. Your mail has nothing to do with FreeBSD. I'm sorry about your car accident, but that is also not hackers@ material. It is, however OK for [EMAIL PROTECTED] My friend... let me make this clear to you. My car accident no matter. You are an idiot. Get your head out of your ass. Thank you Jessem. Jesse, Please keep this crap off the FreeBSD mailing lists and in private emails. Thanks, Devon ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVBUG what happened tonight (12-04-2003)
Jesse, Please keep this crap off the FreeBSD mailing lists and in private emails. Thanks, Devon I second the motion. -ges ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
