Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-10 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach

Mark Murray([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 01:19:57PM +0200:
 
 I could do this. What arre the setup concerns?
 
nearly none, it runs chrooted...

cd /usr/ports/net/rsync  make install clean
man rsync
man rsyncd.conf

easy going...

/k

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-10 Thread John Hay

  
  I could do this. What arre the setup concerns?
  
 nearly none, it runs chrooted...
 
 cd /usr/ports/net/rsync  make install clean
 man rsync
 man rsyncd.conf
 
 easy going...
 

Why not just use cvsup? It is already installed and running on internat
and the firewall is already configured to allow it through.

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-10 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, John Hay wrote:

 Why not just use cvsup? It is already installed and running on internat
 and the firewall is already configured to allow it through.

The question was about mirroring the FTP site, i.e. all of the binary
packages and stuff which are also there.

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-10 Thread Mark Murray

 Why not just use cvsup? It is already installed and running on internat
 and the firewall is already configured to allow it through.

CVSUP only covers that which is already in CVS. The FTP stuff is
what this chap is looking for.

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-10 Thread John Hay

 
  Why not just use cvsup? It is already installed and running on internat
  and the firewall is already configured to allow it through.
 
 The question was about mirroring the FTP site, i.e. all of the binary
 packages and stuff which are also there.
 

I understood it is for the ftp area. You just define a collection or
collections (if you want to break it up) for it and off you go.

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-08 Thread Mark Murray

  Mark Murray would know :-)
  
  I think there's a lot of stale cruft on ftp.internat.freebsd.org which
  doesn't need to be mirrored - Mark could probably tell us all which bits
  are suitable for mirroring (this should be documented somewhere for
  posterity)

Mostly packages and distfiles.

 covering_in_asbestos
 mirroring of all that stuff should be migrated to rsync(1), since this
 implicitly defines (in terms of standard archive'/distribution handling)
 a structured "package" like layout, so we would have several collections
 (freebsd-ftp/ freebsd-www/ freebsd-crypto-US/ freebsd-crypto-nonUS/ and
 so on...)
 thus, it would be easier to set up a mirror, the paths would be more
 standard, the updates would be better in sync (since rsync really does a
 good job in not just only checking if a file has a new datestamp) and
 the world would be a bit better ;-)
 /covering_in_asbestos

I could do this. What arre the setup concerns?

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-08 Thread Joshua Goodall


I can't get there. Latency  packetloss too high from my cable modem in
NL.

Amusingly the route goes through the US :)

- J

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, David O'Brien wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 12:47:16PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
  I guess the thing to do is to make sure they have the same directory
  structure as internat though, so people can simply substitute e.g.
  ftp2.internat.freebsd.org for something which tries to fetch(1) from
  internat.
 
 Can someone that can actually get into ftp.internat.freebsd.org compare
 them?
  
 



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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-07 Thread Geoff Rehmet

David O'Brien writes :
 Access to ftp.internat.freebsd.org from the USA (and presumably
 elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP
 server that could officially mirror the crypto bits from
 ftp.internat.freebsd.org?
 
Part of the reason for the poor access is that we are suffering from
late delivery of circuits on the part of ATT (some of the circuits have
been outstanding since 15 November).  - The site is located on one of
our customers' premises.  Of course, latency across satellite circuits
also does not help.  A further problem is apparent congestion on the
customer's access crcuit to us - they really seem to be nailing their
Internet access. (I'm seeing 600ms ping times across the access circuit.)
Thus, a small modicum of improvement may be achieved
if we were to mirror the site on ftp.is.co.za.  This should be possible
when we upgrade our ftp server (sometime this month).  I can check with
the administrator of our ftp site, whether he will be able to do the 
mirror.  Only problem is that the directory structures will need to
differ, as we are already ftp4.za.freebsd.org.

For anyone from across the pond trying to access the site, your best
mileage will probably be between 1900 and 0600 GMT, when most of our
clients are asleep.

Ciao,
Geoff.


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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-07 Thread John Hay

 On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 12:05:48PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 02:16:15PM +0200, Jesper Skriver wrote:
elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP
server that could officially mirror the crypto bits from
ftp.internat.freebsd.org?
   
   If the amount of data is not huge, we can put it on ftp.dk.FreeBSD.org
  
  I have no idea how big the collection is -- I could just finally login,
  but an ``ls'' timed out.
 
 I found out that not using passive mode works.

Oops, that was my fault. Somewhere in all the wu-ftpd upgrades the ports
that the CSIR firewall allowed and what wu-ftpd tried to use for passive
ftp got out of sync. Should be fixed now.

At the moment our (the CSIR's) internet link is VERY saturated during
working hours (we are in SA so GMT+2). If you can try after hours, you
should have better luck. The people responsible for our network are
playing with a PacketShaper from Packeteer to see if that will help,
but at the moment it seems that ftp response is worse than ever. I'm
trying to work with them to see if we can get it better.

BTW. Wes Peters' idea of a boat is way cheaper than what we pay for
our 1Mbit/s link here. :-)

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desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-06 Thread David O'Brien

Access to ftp.internat.freebsd.org from the USA (and presumably
elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP
server that could officially mirror the crypto bits from
ftp.internat.freebsd.org?

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-06 Thread Lloyd Rennie

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, David O'Brien wrote:

 Access to ftp.internat.freebsd.org from the USA (and presumably
 elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP
 server that could officially mirror the crypto bits from
 ftp.internat.freebsd.org?

We expect to have a mirror service setup with the next two months or so -
if noone else has helped with this by then, we'd be happy to.

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David O'Brien" writes:

Access to ftp.internat.freebsd.org from the USA (and presumably
elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP
server that could officially mirror the crypto bits from
ftp.internat.freebsd.org?

I may be able to arrange a server here in Denmark with a 10-20 Mbit
upstream.


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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-06 Thread Jesper Skriver

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 11:39:03AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David O'Brien" writes:
 
 Access to ftp.internat.freebsd.org from the USA (and presumably
 elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP
 server that could officially mirror the crypto bits from
 ftp.internat.freebsd.org?
 
 I may be able to arrange a server here in Denmark with a 10-20 Mbit
 upstream.

If the amount of data is not huge, we can put it on ftp.dk.FreeBSD.org
...

/Jesper

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-06 Thread Adam Laurie

David O'Brien wrote:
 
 Access to ftp.internat.freebsd.org from the USA (and presumably
 elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP
 server that could officially mirror the crypto bits from
 ftp.internat.freebsd.org?

Tell me the exact tree you want mirrored and I'll make put it on:

  ftp://opensores.thebunker.net/

and

  http://opensores.thebunker.net/

cheers,
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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-06 Thread 梅本 肇

 On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:08:33 -0700
 "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

obrien Access to ftp.internat.freebsd.org from the USA (and presumably
obrien elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP
obrien server that could officially mirror the crypto bits from
obrien ftp.internat.freebsd.org?

  daemon.jp.freebsd.org has.

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-06 Thread Andre Albsmeier

On Wed, 05-Apr-2000 at 18:08:33 -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
 Access to ftp.internat.freebsd.org from the USA (and presumably
 elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP
 server that could officially mirror the crypto bits from
 ftp.internat.freebsd.org?

Try

ftp://ftp.uni-trier.de/pub/unix/systems/BSD/FreeBSD/development/CTM-international

-Andre


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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-06 Thread Jeremiah Gowdy

Access to ftp.internat.freebsd.org from the USA (and presumably
elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP

heh lol.  I wouldn't think it could be that serious.  :)

Shall we lead a holy Jihad against it ?





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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-06 Thread Wes Peters

David O'Brien wrote:
 
 Access to ftp.internat.freebsd.org from the USA (and presumably
 elsewhere) is an abomination.  Isn't there *anyone* with an permanate FTP
 server that could officially mirror the crypto bits from
 ftp.internat.freebsd.org?

For a mere $100,000 per year I could anchor a boat 3 miles outside the
golden gate and get a wireless T-1 service.  Anybody got some change?

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Re: desire for ftp.internat.freebsd.org mirror

2000-04-06 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Peters writes:
: For a mere $100,000 per year I could anchor a boat 3 miles outside the
: golden gate and get a wireless T-1 service.  Anybody got some change?

If you could find a location that this would be legal from, I'd be
game to help :-)

Wanrer


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