Re: handling pdfs?
I personally find that xpdf looks OK. Same here, though I do remember to have that cramped characters problem before. I think it was in PDFs created by OpenOffice swriter. When I used the other OS to print these PDFs, there were cramped characters THe other OS? Are you talking about Linux? Nope, there's a whole crapload of Linuxen, but nearly all people out there seem to be aware only of _the_ OS made by Macrobug. on paper. I have this problem occasionally only with xpdf. Evince displays the files then without any problem just as kpdf. Can you upload a screen bitmap? I wonder if that's the same snag I stumbled upon... BTW, 'tis slightly off-topic, but had anyone else noticed that xpdf is rather slow in rendering pages? I remember, when I had a chance to I think so too. I seem to believe it's X.org's problem. Consider: -- resize xpdf to a small window, and it get much faster; -- if you open hundreds of tabs in Opera, everything in Opera get unbelievably slow (scrolling pages, even moving cursor with cursor keys is very slow). 'opera' and 'X' eat all the CPU cycles; -- some graphics-intensive (lots of vector objects?) apps (Eagle, Opera) take too long to redraw when changing workspaces. I'm thinking about sending a PR. Should I bother, or it's a known bug? Erich [SorAlx] ridin' VS1400 ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
Atom Smasher wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: /usr/ports/print/pdftk/ that's a good first choice, but if it doesn't work (amd64) then a second choice is print/pdfjam and/or print/psutils-(letter|a4)... and ghostscript for pdf2ps and/or ps2pdf... but yeah, pdftk is best if it works for you. Thanks, everyone, appreciate that. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
Gary Jennejohn wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:05:18 -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2007-11-27 21:27, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to read about 4 tons of some really sparse pdf specs. I also have a rather inconvenient throwback: I feel hugely more at home-reading documents in paper. What I'd kind of like to do would be able to perform cut'n'paste among different pdfs, 5 pages here, 10 pages there, until I put together maybe 100-200 pages, and sit back and read it. What I can't do is print just a few pages out of several 800-plus page specs, and perform paper cut'n'pasting. If you find a way to 'save' only parts of a PDF document, i.e. pages 5-10, 17 and 25 in a separate file, then the ``pdfjam'' port includes a utility called ``pdfjoin'' :) You could print the desired pages to .ps files, use ps2pdf to convert them and then pdfjam to combine them. It's enough of a roundabout that I don't know if it's worth it or not. xpdf allows printing of page ranges. I use it all the time. I'm not sure why, maybe I have too poor a font selection here, but the fonts, I mean, the onscreen fonts that xpdf seems to choose, always seems to run characters together, so it gets hard to read them. So, xpdf wouldn't be my first choice. I use kpdf to view pdfs for that particular reason, and onthe same document, kpdf does a distinctly better job, If kpdf uses xpdf's engine, then it must find some way to pick better fonts for itself, it actually does look better. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:09:14 -0500 Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Jennejohn wrote: xpdf allows printing of page ranges. I use it all the time. I'm not sure why, maybe I have too poor a font selection here, but the fonts, I mean, the onscreen fonts that xpdf seems to choose, always seems to run characters together, so it gets hard to read them. So, xpdf wouldn't be my first choice. I use kpdf to view pdfs for that particular reason, and onthe same document, kpdf does a distinctly better job, If kpdf uses xpdf's engine, then it must find some way to pick better fonts for itself, it actually does look better. I personally find that xpdf looks OK. I avoid things like kpdf because I don't use KDE and don't really need all the bloat associated with it. But that's just me. -- Gary Jennejohn * DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk Detlev Zundel HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: +49-8142-66989-0 Fax: +49-8142-66989-80 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
Julian H. Stacey wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-11-27 21:27, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to read about 4 tons of some really sparse pdf specs. I also have a rather inconvenient throwback: I feel hugely more at home-reading documents in paper. What I'd kind of like to do would be able to perform cut'n'paste among different pdfs, 5 pages here, 10 pages there, until I put together maybe 100-200 pages, and sit back and read it. What I can't do is print just a few pages out of several 800-plus page specs, and perform paper cut'n'pasting. If you find a way to 'save' only parts of a PDF document, i.e. pages 5-10, 17 and 25 in a separate file, then the ``pdfjam'' port includes a utility called ``pdfjoin'' :) /usr/local/bin/pdf2ps # ghostscript-gnu-7.07_15/+CONTENTS:bin/pdf2ps then gs allows printing of page numbers then print PS or /usr/local/bin/ps2pdf # /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-gnu Seeing as I start out with pdfs here, yo probably meant pdf2ps, not ps2pdf, right? I will take another look at this, but in the past, when I have tried to use pdf2ps, it often would yield me pstscripts that couldn't be pages, for some reason. Maybe that's an old, fixed bug? ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: On Tue, 27.11.2007 at 21:27:41 -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: Is there some sort of util that will allow me to do cut'n'pasting among different pdfs, or at the very least, only to print certain ranges out of pdf docs, so I could do paper-wise cut'n'paste? An all-electronic solution would be best, but I'd take whatever offered. Lots of tools have already been mentioned. I'll just throw in pdflatex+pdfpages. You can easily zoom, rotate and N'up pages of different PDF files. I'm happily buried underneath some prertty good sugestions, and one by one, I'll be trying them all, thanks. Cheers, Ulrich Spoerlein ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
Chuck Robey wrote: Julian H. Stacey wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-11-27 21:27, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to read about 4 tons of some really sparse pdf specs. I also have a rather inconvenient throwback: I feel hugely more at home-reading documents in paper. What I'd kind of like to do would be able to perform cut'n'paste among different pdfs, 5 pages here, 10 pages there, until I put together maybe 100-200 pages, and sit back and read it. What I can't do is print just a few pages out of several 800-plus page specs, and perform paper cut'n'pasting. If you find a way to 'save' only parts of a PDF document, i.e. pages 5-10, 17 and 25 in a separate file, then the ``pdfjam'' port includes a utility called ``pdfjoin'' :) /usr/local/bin/pdf2ps # ghostscript-gnu-7.07_15/+CONTENTS:bin/pdf2ps then gs allows printing of page numbers then print PS or /usr/local/bin/ps2pdf # /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-gnu Seeing as I start out with pdfs here, yo probably meant pdf2ps, not ps2pdf, right? I will take another look at this, but in the past, when I have tried to use pdf2ps, it often would yield me pstscripts that couldn't be pages, for some reason. Maybe that's an old, fixed bug? Hi Chuck, I mean use both ! As I only know how to split pages using gs, I would convert .pdf to .ps with pdf2ps then optionally take it back via pdf2ps. BTW I also see -help | grep pdf ... pdfwrite I too have on occasion seen PDF version problems. If some .pdf gives you problems, try sending me a copy I have here all of 4.11, 6.2 7.0BETA2 to try with (albeit not many 7.09BETA3/ cirrent ports biuilt yet). -- Julian Stacey. Munich Computer Consultant, BSD Unix C Linux. http://berklix.com Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. Dump cigs 4 snuff. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
I'm not sure why, maybe I have too poor a font selection here, but the fonts, I mean, the onscreen fonts that xpdf seems to choose, always seems to run characters together, so it gets hard to read them. So, xpdf wouldn't be my first choice. I use kpdf to view pdfs for that particular reason, and onthe same document, kpdf does a distinctly better job, If kpdf uses xpdf's engine, then it must find some way to pick better fonts for itself, it actually does look better. I personally find that xpdf looks OK. Same here, though I do remember to have that cramped characters problem before. I think it was in PDFs created by OpenOffice swriter. When I used the other OS to print these PDFs, there were cramped characters on paper. BTW, 'tis slightly off-topic, but had anyone else noticed that xpdf is rather slow in rendering pages? I remember, when I had a chance to use that other OS, there was some program to view PDF -- AcrobatReader it was called, AFAIR -- well, that thing rendered pages almost instantly. I avoid things like kpdf because I don't use KDE and don't really need all the bloat associated with it. But that's just me. No, that's not just you. That KDE and GNOME bloat is getting barely tolerable already. And not only because of the weight -- instability and departure from UNIX/XFree conventions are driving me crazy (did you notice that copying text to buffer by selecting it with a mouse doesn't seem to work anymnore with GTK?). Still, how can it be that just starting an app should waste tens of seconds of your time and more RAM than necessary? And that's on a dual-core 2GHz machine! Who would have imagined... [SorAlx] ridin' VS1400 ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally find that xpdf looks OK. Same here, though I do remember to have that cramped characters problem before. I think it was in PDFs created by OpenOffice swriter. When I used the other OS to print these PDFs, there were cramped characters THe other OS? Are you talking about Linux? on paper. I have this problem occasionally only with xpdf. Evince displays the files then without any problem just as kpdf. BTW, 'tis slightly off-topic, but had anyone else noticed that xpdf is rather slow in rendering pages? I remember, when I had a chance to I think so too. Erich ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
On Tue, 27.11.2007 at 21:27:41 -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: Is there some sort of util that will allow me to do cut'n'pasting among different pdfs, or at the very least, only to print certain ranges out of pdf docs, so I could do paper-wise cut'n'paste? An all-electronic solution would be best, but I'd take whatever offered. Lots of tools have already been mentioned. I'll just throw in pdflatex+pdfpages. You can easily zoom, rotate and N'up pages of different PDF files. Cheers, Ulrich Spoerlein -- It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak, and remove all doubt. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Gary Jennejohn wrote: xpdf allows printing of page ranges. I use it all the time. == oh yeah... and kprinter, if you have it installed, can also do that, but can act as a pipe with postscript files as an input ;) kprinter file.ps it has most/all of the print options you'd expect from a GUI print dialog, and it can print to pdf, ps, or a real printer. -- ...atom http://atom.smasher.org/ 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808 - When the President does it, that means that it's not illegal. -- Richard M. Nixon, 19 May 1977 ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-11-27 21:27, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to read about 4 tons of some really sparse pdf specs. I also have a rather inconvenient throwback: I feel hugely more at home-reading documents in paper. What I'd kind of like to do would be able to perform cut'n'paste among different pdfs, 5 pages here, 10 pages there, until I put together maybe 100-200 pages, and sit back and read it. What I can't do is print just a few pages out of several 800-plus page specs, and perform paper cut'n'pasting. If you find a way to 'save' only parts of a PDF document, i.e. pages 5-10, 17 and 25 in a separate file, then the ``pdfjam'' port includes a utility called ``pdfjoin'' :) /usr/local/bin/pdf2ps # ghostscript-gnu-7.07_15/+CONTENTS:bin/pdf2ps then gs allows printing of page numbers then print PS or /usr/local/bin/ps2pdf # /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-gnu -- Julian Stacey. Munich Computer Consultant, BSD Unix C Linux. http://berklix.com Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. Dump cigs 4 snuff. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
On 2007-11-27 21:27, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to read about 4 tons of some really sparse pdf specs. I also have a rather inconvenient throwback: I feel hugely more at home-reading documents in paper. What I'd kind of like to do would be able to perform cut'n'paste among different pdfs, 5 pages here, 10 pages there, until I put together maybe 100-200 pages, and sit back and read it. What I can't do is print just a few pages out of several 800-plus page specs, and perform paper cut'n'pasting. If you find a way to 'save' only parts of a PDF document, i.e. pages 5-10, 17 and 25 in a separate file, then the ``pdfjam'' port includes a utility called ``pdfjoin'' :) ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
In response to Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2007-11-27 21:27, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to read about 4 tons of some really sparse pdf specs. I also have a rather inconvenient throwback: I feel hugely more at home-reading documents in paper. What I'd kind of like to do would be able to perform cut'n'paste among different pdfs, 5 pages here, 10 pages there, until I put together maybe 100-200 pages, and sit back and read it. What I can't do is print just a few pages out of several 800-plus page specs, and perform paper cut'n'pasting. If you find a way to 'save' only parts of a PDF document, i.e. pages 5-10, 17 and 25 in a separate file, then the ``pdfjam'' port includes a utility called ``pdfjoin'' :) You could print the desired pages to .ps files, use ps2pdf to convert them and then pdfjam to combine them. It's enough of a roundabout that I don't know if it's worth it or not. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 412-422-3463x4023 ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:05:18 -0500 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2007-11-27 21:27, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to read about 4 tons of some really sparse pdf specs. I also have a rather inconvenient throwback: I feel hugely more at home-reading documents in paper. What I'd kind of like to do would be able to perform cut'n'paste among different pdfs, 5 pages here, 10 pages there, until I put together maybe 100-200 pages, and sit back and read it. What I can't do is print just a few pages out of several 800-plus page specs, and perform paper cut'n'pasting. If you find a way to 'save' only parts of a PDF document, i.e. pages 5-10, 17 and 25 in a separate file, then the ``pdfjam'' port includes a utility called ``pdfjoin'' :) You could print the desired pages to .ps files, use ps2pdf to convert them and then pdfjam to combine them. It's enough of a roundabout that I don't know if it's worth it or not. xpdf allows printing of page ranges. I use it all the time. -- Gary Jennejohn ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
handling pdfs?
I need to read about 4 tons of some really sparse pdf specs. I also have a rather inconvenient throwback: I feel hugely more at home-reading documents in paper. What I'd kind of like to do would be able to perform cut'n'paste among different pdfs, 5 pages here, 10 pages there, until I put together maybe 100-200 pages, and sit back and read it. What I can't do is print just a few pages out of several 800-plus page specs, and perform paper cut'n'pasting. Is there some sort of util that will allow me to do cut'n'pasting among different pdfs, or at the very least, only to print certain ranges out of pdf docs, so I could do paper-wise cut'n'paste? An all-electronic solution would be best, but I'd take whatever offered. Thanks ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
0n Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 09:27:41PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: I need to read about 4 tons of some really sparse pdf specs. I also have a rather inconvenient throwback: I feel hugely more at home-reading documents in paper. What I'd kind of like to do would be able to perform cut'n'paste among different pdfs, 5 pages here, 10 pages there, until I put together maybe 100-200 pages, and sit back and read it. What I can't do is print just a few pages out of several 800-plus page specs, and perform paper cut'n'pasting. Is there some sort of util that will allow me to do cut'n'pasting among different pdfs, or at the very least, only to print certain ranges out of pdf docs, so I could do paper-wise cut'n'paste? An all-electronic solution would be best, but I'd take whatever offered. /usr/ports/print/pdftk/ -aW IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: handling pdfs?
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: /usr/ports/print/pdftk/ that's a good first choice, but if it doesn't work (amd64) then a second choice is print/pdfjam and/or print/psutils-(letter|a4)... and ghostscript for pdf2ps and/or ps2pdf... but yeah, pdftk is best if it works for you. -- ...atom http://atom.smasher.org/ 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808 - Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic. -- Dave Barry ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
