Re: 4.9R changing MTA to Postfix - no periodic.conf

2004-04-23 Thread Bill Moran
Danny wrote:
Greetings,

So I have installed Postfix from the ports, read the pkg-message, read the 
changing the MTA in the handbook, and did a bit of searching.

So after the switch, I obviously get:

Apr 23 03:01:00 mx1 postfix/sendmail[2175]: fatal: unsupported: -bh
Apr 23 03:01:01 mx1 postfix/sendmail[2176]: fatal: unsupported: -bH
Because I did not:

Also, you will want to disable some Sendmail-specific daily maintenance
routines in your /etc/periodic.conf file:
daily_clean_hoststat_enable=NO
daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=NO
daily_status_include_submit_mailq=NO
daily_submit_queuerun=NO
However, I do not have a periodic.conf. How is the periodic running without a 
config file?

Could someone please show me there periodic.conf file and why they chose the 
options they did, or maybe baseline.
/etc/defaults/periodic.conf has all the default values for periodic.  You should
_NOT_ endit /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ... the point is that /etc/periodic.conf
overrides those defaults.  You can, however, use /etc/defaults/periodic.conf as
a reference to see what values are available and what their default values are.
Simply create a new file called /etc/periodic.conf and put the configuration
options shown above in it.  Anything not in /etc/periodic.conf will be
set from /etc/defaults/periodic.conf.
(Copying /etc/defaults/periodic.conf to /etc/periodic.conf is NOT a good idea, as
it defeats the purpose of the default file.  FYI, a lot of things are handled in
this manner, look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf for another example)
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Potential Technologies
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Re: 4.9R changing MTA to Postfix - no periodic.conf

2004-04-23 Thread Danny
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:51:28 -0400, Bill Moran wrote
 Danny wrote:
  Greetings,
  
  So I have installed Postfix from the ports, read the pkg-message, read 
the 
  changing the MTA in the handbook, and did a bit of searching.
  
  So after the switch, I obviously get:
  
  Apr 23 03:01:00 mx1 postfix/sendmail[2175]: fatal: unsupported: -bh
  Apr 23 03:01:01 mx1 postfix/sendmail[2176]: fatal: unsupported: -bH
  
  Because I did not:
  
  Also, you will want to disable some Sendmail-specific daily maintenance
  routines in your /etc/periodic.conf file:
  
  daily_clean_hoststat_enable=NO
  daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=NO
  daily_status_include_submit_mailq=NO
  daily_submit_queuerun=NO
  
  However, I do not have a periodic.conf. How is the periodic running 
without a 
  config file?
  
  Could someone please show me there periodic.conf file and why they chose 
the 
  options they did, or maybe baseline.
 
 /etc/defaults/periodic.conf has all the default values for periodic.

Defaults as a reference, or the defaults that are currently enforced even 
without /etc/periodic.conf?

  You should _NOT_ endit /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ... the point is 
 that /etc/periodic.conf overrides those defaults.

So, in theory, IF (which I won't, don't worry) I did edit 
the /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, and disabled the postfix  sendmail 
specified settings, those changes would be enforced even without 
a /etc/periodic.conf?

Thank you.
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Re: 4.9R changing MTA to Postfix - no periodic.conf

2004-04-23 Thread Bill Moran
[please fix your mail program so it doesn't mangle emails by wrapping lines]

Danny wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:51:28 -0400, Bill Moran wrote

Danny wrote:

Greetings,

So I have installed Postfix from the ports, read the pkg-message, read 
the 

changing the MTA in the handbook, and did a bit of searching.

So after the switch, I obviously get:

Apr 23 03:01:00 mx1 postfix/sendmail[2175]: fatal: unsupported: -bh
Apr 23 03:01:01 mx1 postfix/sendmail[2176]: fatal: unsupported: -bH
Because I did not:

Also, you will want to disable some Sendmail-specific daily maintenance
routines in your /etc/periodic.conf file:
daily_clean_hoststat_enable=NO
daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=NO
daily_status_include_submit_mailq=NO
daily_submit_queuerun=NO
However, I do not have a periodic.conf. How is the periodic running 
without a 

config file?

Could someone please show me there periodic.conf file and why they chose 
the 

options they did, or maybe baseline.
/etc/defaults/periodic.conf has all the default values for periodic.
Defaults as a reference, or the defaults that are currently enforced even 
without /etc/periodic.conf?
Both.

The default values _could_ be hardcoded into the periodic program but
there are good reasons not to do this.  The most notable is that it's
much easier for the average sysadmin to look in /etc/defaults/* to see
what default values are than to look through program code.
The reason you don't want to edit /etc/defaults/periodic.conf is that
upgrading FreeBSD will upgrade /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, but won't
change /etc/periodic.conf.  That way, if new config options are added
or the default values are changed, you get the updates without messing
up the settings that each admin changed.
You should _NOT_ endit /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ... the point is 
that /etc/periodic.conf overrides those defaults.
So, in theory, IF (which I won't, don't worry) I did edit 
the /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, and disabled the postfix  sendmail 
specified settings, those changes would be enforced even without 
a /etc/periodic.conf?
Yes, that would happen.

Then, when you upgrade to 4.10, you'll lose your changes.

If you create /etc/periodic.conf and put your override values in there,
upgrading won't reset your config, but it will add new values as needed
and change any defaults to match new changes in 4.10.
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Potential Technologies
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Re: 4.9R changing MTA to Postfix - no periodic.conf

2004-04-23 Thread Charles Swiger
On Apr 23, 2004, at 2:12 PM, Danny wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:51:28 -0400, Bill Moran wrote
/etc/defaults/periodic.conf has all the default values for periodic.
Defaults as a reference, or the defaults that are currently enforced 
even
without /etc/periodic.conf?
Yes, to both.  The two aren't exclusive.

 You should _NOT_ endit /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ... the point is
that /etc/periodic.conf overrides those defaults.
So, in theory, IF (which I won't, don't worry) I did edit
the /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, and disabled the postfix  sendmail
specified settings, those changes would be enforced even without
a /etc/periodic.conf?
Sure.  But your changes might get blown away the next time you updated 
the system and ran mergemaster, unless you were careful.  Putting the 
changes in /etc/periodic.conf is the right thing to do...

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-Chuck
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