Re: sf.net: host not found

2004-03-31 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Shantanoo wrote:

+++ Zhang Weiwu [freebsd] [30-03-04 16:29 +0800]:
| 
| Hello. It has been three days since I cannot access sourceforge.net, using 
| many different Chinese dns server:
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~host sf.net
| Host not found, try again.
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~host sourceforge.net
| Host not found, try again.
| 
| It behave like the last year's Google being blocked in China. But I don't 
| know sourceforge has anything to do with political stuff. 
| 
| Can anyone tell me sourceforge's ip address? Or better tell me a 
| world-accessible dns server, that I can help myself with such things.
| 
| If it is truly blocked, then it is no use to have IP address. But I'll have 
| a try.
| 
| Thank you.

As you are using FreeBSD, why not have your own caching name server?
Method:
1. set your hostname
   hostname=test.tld
   in your /etc/rc.conf
2. cd /etc/namedb
3. sh make-localhost
4. start named.
   add following line in /etc/rc.conf
   named_enable=YES
to test

dig -x 127.0.0.1
 

That does not solve my problem. Perhaps I'm not clear. The situation is 
my ISP's dns server cannot return IP address for *.sourceforge.net, 
*.slashdot.org. Other local ISP's dns server cannot return IP address 
for *.sourceforge.net  *.slashdot.org.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~dig @210.34.0.14 sourceforge.net

;  DiG 8.3  @210.34.0.14 sourceforge.net
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; res_nsend: Operation timed out
Exit 9
I talked about it on local forums and happen to find most Chinese dns 
servers behave the same. If you heard of the last year's Chinese 
political event of blocking google access from non-experts, you know 
what I'm talking about. This time it seems sourceforge and slashdot are 
blocked. The best solution to me perhaps is to find a free-accessible 
dns server. I happen to find one on local forums: 69.67.108.10 is 
working for me.
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Re: sf.net: host not found

2004-03-31 Thread Shantanoo
+++ Zhang Weiwu [31-03-04 17:19 +0800]:
| Shantanoo wrote:
| 
| +++ Zhang Weiwu [freebsd] [30-03-04 16:29 +0800]:
| | 
| | Hello. It has been three days since I cannot access sourceforge.net, 
| using | many different Chinese dns server:
| | 
| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~host sf.net
| | Host not found, try again.
| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~host sourceforge.net
| | Host not found, try again.
| | 
| | It behave like the last year's Google being blocked in China. But I 
| don't | know sourceforge has anything to do with political stuff. 
| | 
| | Can anyone tell me sourceforge's ip address? Or better tell me a 
| | world-accessible dns server, that I can help myself with such things.
| | 
| | If it is truly blocked, then it is no use to have IP address. But I'll 
| have | a try.
| | 
| | Thank you.
| 
| As you are using FreeBSD, why not have your own caching name server?
| Method:
| 
| 1. set your hostname
|hostname=test.tld
|in your /etc/rc.conf
| 2. cd /etc/namedb
| 3. sh make-localhost
| 4. start named.
|add following line in /etc/rc.conf
|named_enable=YES
| 
| to test
| 
| dig -x 127.0.0.1
|  
| 
| 
| That does not solve my problem. Perhaps I'm not clear. The situation is 
| my ISP's dns server cannot return IP address for *.sourceforge.net, 
| *.slashdot.org. Other local ISP's dns server cannot return IP address 
| for *.sourceforge.net  *.slashdot.org.
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~dig @210.34.0.14 sourceforge.net
| 
| ;  DiG 8.3  @210.34.0.14 sourceforge.net
| ; (1 server found)
| ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
| ;; res_nsend: Operation timed out
| Exit 9
| 
| I talked about it on local forums and happen to find most Chinese dns 
| servers behave the same. If you heard of the last year's Chinese 
| political event of blocking google access from non-experts, you know 
| what I'm talking about. This time it seems sourceforge and slashdot are 
| blocked. The best solution to me perhaps is to find a free-accessible 
| dns server. I happen to find one on local forums: 69.67.108.10 is 
| working for me.

I told you how to setup your _own_ _DNS_ server. You won't need to
use other DNS server.

Shantanoo
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Re: sf.net: host not found

2004-03-31 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Mar 31, 2004, at 10:52 AM, Shantanoo wrote:
I told you how to setup your _own_ _DNS_ server. You won't need to
use other DNS server.
Shantanoo

Forgive me, but does the country block access to the root Internet 
servers?  If so, wouldn't it only cache information that is 
available...i.e., if his DNS server can't get the IP's for those sites 
because his upstream has it blocked, he could only get the crippled 
available IPs from those within the country?

I knew they blocked things in the country using proxies, but I didn't 
(and don't) know the full range of the blocking that's done...my first 
thoughts were that he was inviting trouble by discussing trying to get 
to these sites on a public mailing list, wondering if they were 
watching and noting his attempt to subvert their blocking.  Maybe 
someday they'll come to their senses and drop the Internet censorship 
:-)

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Re: sf.net: host not found

2004-03-31 Thread Shantanoo
+++ Bart Silverstrim [freebsd] [31-03-04 13:14 -0500]:
| 
| On Mar 31, 2004, at 10:52 AM, Shantanoo wrote:
| 
| I told you how to setup your _own_ _DNS_ server. You won't need to
| use other DNS server.
| 
| Shantanoo
| 
| 
| Forgive me, but does the country block access to the root Internet 
| servers?  If so, wouldn't it only cache information that is 
| available...i.e., if his DNS server can't get the IP's for those sites 
| because his upstream has it blocked, he could only get the crippled 
| available IPs from those within the country?

I don't think that they will be blocking access to root-servers.
If they are blocking it, no info will be available, as upstream server
is not contacted. (unless root-servers are not redirected to some
other IP)

| 
| I knew they blocked things in the country using proxies, but I didn't 
| (and don't) know the full range of the blocking that's done...my first 
| thoughts were that he was inviting trouble by discussing trying to get 
| to these sites on a public mailing list, wondering if they were 
| watching and noting his attempt to subvert their blocking.  Maybe 
| someday they'll come to their senses and drop the Internet censorship 
| :-)

No comments ;)
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Re: sf.net: host not found

2004-03-30 Thread Shantanoo
+++ Zhang Weiwu [freebsd] [30-03-04 16:29 +0800]:
| 
| Hello. It has been three days since I cannot access sourceforge.net, using 
| many different Chinese dns server:
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~host sf.net
| Host not found, try again.
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~host sourceforge.net
| Host not found, try again.
| 
| It behave like the last year's Google being blocked in China. But I don't 
| know sourceforge has anything to do with political stuff. 
| 
| Can anyone tell me sourceforge's ip address? Or better tell me a 
| world-accessible dns server, that I can help myself with such things.
| 
| If it is truly blocked, then it is no use to have IP address. But I'll have 
| a try.
| 
| Thank you.

As you are using FreeBSD, why not have your own caching name server?
Method:

1. set your hostname
hostname=test.tld
in your /etc/rc.conf
2. cd /etc/namedb
3. sh make-localhost
4. start named.
add following line in /etc/rc.conf
named_enable=YES

to test

dig -x 127.0.0.1


Shantanoo
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