Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 04:44:20PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz typed: Postfix has a readable config file (with comments!) that doesn't require compiling into the proper syntax. Here follows a snippets from /etc/mail/freebsd.mc. It's readable and full of comments. A simple make will compile the file. What are you complaining about? dnl Uncomment to allow relaying based on your MX records. dnl NOTE: This can allow sites to use your server as a backup MX without dnl your permission. dnl FEATURE(relay_based_on_MX) Postfix understands and plays well with things like content-filters, RBLs, dovecot (and others) for SSL. And sendmail does not? You obviously are biased. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
Ruben == Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org writes: Ruben And sendmail does not? You obviously are biased. I had at least a decade of experience with sendmail before discovering postfix. And now I use postfix, and you can't *make* me use sendmail again. Of course I'm biased. I prefer postfix now. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: Ruben == Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org writes: Ruben And sendmail does not? You obviously are biased. I had at least a decade of experience with sendmail before discovering postfix. And now I use postfix, and you can't *make* me use sendmail again. Of course I'm biased. I prefer postfix now. (sorry I answered directly to Randal by mistake): I second you! I also use Postfix on FBSD and refuse to use any default MTA whether is the imposed Sendmail on FBSD or Exim on Debian, etc. There should be no default MTA in Open Source OSs. Best, Alejandro Imass -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 06:30:21AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz typed: Ruben == Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org writes: Ruben And sendmail does not? You obviously are biased. I had at least a decade of experience with sendmail before discovering postfix. And now I use postfix, and you can't *make* me use sendmail again. I'm not making you use anything. Just commenting on your assessment that sendmail cannot do something, while I know it can. Of course I'm biased. I prefer postfix now. Nice for you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
Ruben == Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org writes: Ruben I'm not making you use anything. Just commenting on your assessment that Ruben sendmail cannot do something, while I know it can. I never said it couldn't. So let's not be making something up here. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 06:30:21AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz typed: Ruben == Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org writes: Ruben And sendmail does not? You obviously are biased. I had at least a decade of experience with sendmail before discovering postfix. And now I use postfix, and you can't *make* me use sendmail again. I'm not making you use anything. Just commenting on your assessment that sendmail cannot do something, while I know it can. As stated in my previous response I second Randal's opinion. I am sure that sendmail can and in fact probably does do anything that Postfix can do, nevertheless, there are core differences that make Postfix (and for that matter QMail) a better choice for small to medium implementations, in fact large ones, but I don't want to get into that right now. The main difference is that Sendmail and the vast majority of MTAs are monolithic and usually very hard to configure. Postfix on the other hand is a bunch of different programs (non-monolithic) and extremely easy to configure. There is a lot of debate of which MTA model is better in general, but I think that non-monolithic allow to play well and integrate with almost anything and very easily, whereas in the monolithic model you may even have to recompile to get something simple working. Furthermore Sendmail's legacy configuration methods via m4 are really hard for the non-experts and with all the administration ordeals that a modern admin has to deal with, banging your head with m4 and restarts is not very comforting. Again IMHO. BTW, I think that Randal is more known as Perl guy, more than a Linux-guy ;-) Anyway, my point is that an Operating System should not impose a specific MTA by default, and let the installer chose their favorite MTA. From what I understand you can't even remove Sendmail from standard FBSD and must only be de-activated. I personally think that sucks (if it's true anyway). Note that it is not my intention to start a flame MTA-war here. I think that Sendmail is exclellent if you like it, but Postfix is excellent as well, and we should be eventually able to install FBSD with Postfix as default MTA. Of course I'm biased. I prefer postfix now. Nice for you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
Anyway, my point is that an Operating System should not impose a specific MTA by default, and let the installer chose their favorite MTA. From what I understand you can't even remove Sendmail from standard FBSD and must only be de-activated. I personally think that sucks (if it's true anyway). Note that it is not my intention to start a flame MTA-war here. I think that Sendmail is exclellent if you like it, but Postfix is excellent as well, and we should be eventually able to install FBSD with Postfix as default MTA. I could be wrong, but I think you can build the world without sendmail passing the propper flags to make. In the other hand, sendmail is a piece of the operative system; so you could end up with some broken features. There are some other apps that belong to the OS as well, like bind9 for DNS, sh and csh for the shell and so on... It would be very difficult to let the user choose their favorite applications in an OS install. As I see it, FreeBSD is, in fact, a DNS server or a mail server by default, between others and if I want. And since Postfix has some limitations vs. Sendmail, I'm glad that is sendmail the choice of FreeBSD. I also must say that I frecuently use Postfix for Mail Servers, if I don't need exotic features. My point is that Sendmail doesn't hurt anyone as part of the FreeBSD Operative System; unlike some Linux based distros, which really impose default MTA's without the need. Best regards. Alberto Mijares ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:00:17 -0430 Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com articulated: As I see it, FreeBSD is, in fact, a DNS server or a mail server by default, between others and if I want. And since Postfix has some limitations vs. Sendmail, I'm glad that is sendmail the choice of FreeBSD. I also must say that I frecuently use Postfix for Mail Servers, if I don't need exotic features. Out of morbid curiosity, what limitations and exotic features? -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ Small is beautiful. Schumacher's Dictum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:00:17 -0430 Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com articulated: As I see it, FreeBSD is, in fact, a DNS server or a mail server by default, between others and if I want. And since Postfix has some limitations vs. Sendmail, I'm glad that is sendmail the choice of FreeBSD. I also must say that I frecuently use Postfix for Mail Servers, if I don't need exotic features. Out of morbid curiosity, what limitations and exotic features? Yes! Another Postfix fan! - or not... -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ Small is beautiful. Schumacher's Dictum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:00:17 -0430 Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com articulated: As I see it, FreeBSD is, in fact, a DNS server or a mail server by default, between others and if I want. And since Postfix has some limitations vs. Sendmail, I'm glad that is sendmail the choice of FreeBSD. I also must say that I frecuently use Postfix for Mail Servers, if I don't need exotic features. Out of morbid curiosity, what limitations and exotic features? UUCP for one. I *think* you can also get sendmail to do other transports via mailertable that would not be possible with postfix. Example, an scp to another server that doesn't have an MTA running. Dan -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ Small is beautiful. Schumacher's Dictum ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:51:01 -0600 Dan Busarow d...@buildingonline.com articulated: On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:00:17 -0430 Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com articulated: As I see it, FreeBSD is, in fact, a DNS server or a mail server by default, between others and if I want. And since Postfix has some limitations vs. Sendmail, I'm glad that is sendmail the choice of FreeBSD. I also must say that I frecuently use Postfix for Mail Servers, if I don't need exotic features. Out of morbid curiosity, what limitations and exotic features? UUCP for one. I *think* you can also get sendmail to do other transports via mailertable that would not be possible with postfix. Example, an scp to another server that doesn't have an MTA running. Is this what you are referring to: http://www.postfix.org/UUCP_README.html -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ The only person who always got his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
On Mar 22, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:51:01 -0600 Dan Busarow d...@buildingonline.com articulated: On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:00:17 -0430 Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com articulated: As I see it, FreeBSD is, in fact, a DNS server or a mail server by default, between others and if I want. And since Postfix has some limitations vs. Sendmail, I'm glad that is sendmail the choice of FreeBSD. I also must say that I frecuently use Postfix for Mail Servers, if I don't need exotic features. Out of morbid curiosity, what limitations and exotic features? UUCP for one. I *think* you can also get sendmail to do other transports via mailertable that would not be possible with postfix. Example, an scp to another server that doesn't have an MTA running. Is this what you are referring to: http://www.postfix.org/UUCP_README.html Well I'll be. I didn't think postfix would do UUCP. I stand corrected. Dan -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ The only person who always got his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
Holy $hit! I think someone just admitted they weren't all knowing! This is yet another sign of the pending apocolypse! - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Mar 22 18:09:15 2010 Subject: Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix On Mar 22, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:51:01 -0600 Dan Busarow d...@buildingonline.com articulated: On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:00:17 -0430 Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com articulated: As I see it, FreeBSD is, in fact, a DNS server or a mail server by default, between others and if I want. And since Postfix has some limitations vs. Sendmail, I'm glad that is sendmail the choice of FreeBSD. I also must say that I frecuently use Postfix for Mail Servers, if I don't need exotic features. Out of morbid curiosity, what limitations and exotic features? UUCP for one. I *think* you can also get sendmail to do other transports via mailertable that would not be possible with postfix. Example, an scp to another server that doesn't have an MTA running. Is this what you are referring to: http://www.postfix.org/UUCP_README.html Well I'll be. I didn't think postfix would do UUCP. I stand corrected. Dan -- Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ The only person who always got his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:00:17 -0430 Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com articulated: As I see it, FreeBSD is, in fact, a DNS server or a mail server by default, between others and if I want. And since Postfix has some limitations vs. Sendmail, I'm glad that is sendmail the choice of FreeBSD. I also must say that I frecuently use Postfix for Mail Servers, if I don't need exotic features. Out of morbid curiosity, what limitations and exotic features? -- Jerry Hi Jerry, You can achieve some kind of dynamic rules by using lookup tables or the pipe(8) daemon in Postfix. However, Sendmail has many more predefined macros, which can be used in rule sets for handle dynamic routing, headers-rewrites, queues, milters, MDA's, etc, for example. That's what I meant when said limitations and exotic features. Not saying that Postfix is bate quebrado ;-) Without being a fan, I rise the flag for Postfix; I just know the power of Sendmail too. Best regards Alberto Mijares ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
Hello all. I have been talking with a Linux guy (you know the never ending kind of war, my Linuxreligion is better than your Freebsdreligion, easier to install , upgrade blah blah blah). Anyway, talking about the best option for filtering spam and having an email solution for personal simple use (small office, 3-4 people) that sendmail could be the simples and the best option to follow, with some rules like spamcop, rbl , etc, could be fine. I said that I am not sure but that even spamassin could be configured to run under send mail or if that does not work that to move from sendmail to another could be the solution and not so difficult, like postfix. Am I wrong? could be that movement easy to do? I mean to move from sendmail to postfix to be able to have spamassasin run. Or it is better to have that solution (have mail server with spam filters) could be get with some other mix of software and tools? (of course my linux friend says that they have rpm's ready to solve that even when do not know how it works, not interested in that) Can you comment on your experience to accomplish this? Thank in advance and I am sorry if this sound too basic. Jorge Biquez ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
Jorge == Jorge Biquez jbiq...@icsmx.com writes: Jorge I said that I am not sure but that even spamassin could be configured Jorge to run under send mail or if that does not work that to move from Jorge sendmail to another could be the solution and not so difficult, like Jorge postfix. Am I wrong? could be that movement easy to do? I mean to move Jorge from sendmail to postfix to be able to have spamassasin run. Or it is Jorge better to have that solution (have mail server with spam filters) could Jorge be get with some other mix of software and tools? (of course my linux Jorge friend says that they have rpm's ready to solve that even when do not Jorge know how it works, not interested in that) Once I discovered postfix, my opinion with sendmail is never again!. Postfix has a readable config file (with comments!) that doesn't require compiling into the proper syntax. Postfix understands and plays well with things like content-filters, RBLs, dovecot (and others) for SSL. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
I said that I am not sure but that even spamassin could be configured to run under send mail or if that does not work that to move from sendmail to another could be the solution and not so difficult, like postfix. Of course it can. In the ports you have a thing called spammilter? that is just what you want. I beleive there are little things that you can do with POstfix that you coul dnot do with sendmail, only writting a filter for Postfix is way easier than writting a milter for sendmail, so that is why there are mor eready made Postfix filters than sendmail milters. Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
I installed that spammilter, run without problems. Thanks Just curios I have a client that has a dedicated server using CPanel. I am just curios that they are using Exim as the MTA . I imagine that has an an advantage for using under CPanel. Thanks for you time At 06:05 p.m. 21/03/2010, you wrote: I said that I am not sure but that even spamassin could be configured to run under send mail or if that does not work that to move from sendmail to another could be the solution C and not so difficult, like postfix. Of course it In the ports you have a thing called spammilter? that is just what you want. I beleive there are little things that you can do with POstfix that you coul dnot do with sendmail, only writting a filter for Postfix is way easier than writting a milter for sendmail, so that is why there are mor eready made Postfix filters than sendmail milters. Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
Just curios I have a client that has a dedicated server using CPanel. I am just curios that they are using Exim as the MTA . I imagine that has an an advantage for using under CPanel. I never laid my hand on any Exim server, I don't even know what CPanel is. If it's a kind of GUI for Exim, I never use GUI on my servers, I strictly stick to an all text files politics: - I have a consistent GUI for all files, my usual text editor; - even from the other side of the world, throught a very slow connection (talking like 12kbps) I can do some administration; - I feel I have much more control on what is doing what, and where is everything. Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
Hello. CPANEL is an interface , graphical, pro administering services (jailed usually) in servers. That way users can do almost anything with is virtual server. It is kind of popular and for what I have used is good. You open another question I was going to ask in the list. If all of you guys can comment the use of Freebsd in Graphical or text mode. In my case I have to confess that I do not know any GUI under Freebsd I have never installed one since version 2 since all the services I have used I guess do not need the GUI. With my latest installatio I was thinking on playing with X Windows but I decided for later. For general use what do you do? I know some of you use only or mainly FreeBSD. Always in text. I have done it for a while, I am not an expert like you at all but a few days could do my job only on text console. Now I am planing to return to my basics, developing and I am constructing a small machine for that . I will be doing simple thing, PHP, Python, Mysql and that's all. Still thinking what's more convenient if under text or GUI. (remember the good old days under HP300, fortran cobol, clipper, etc etc?) I am deciding for a good text editor (suggestions?) and maybe for testing will use and old PC with any flavor of Windows with any browser will be enoiough) Can some of you give me your comments and advice? Thanks Olivier and all for your time. Jorge Biquez At 07:07 p.m. 21/03/2010, you wrote: Just curios I have a client that has a dedicated server using CPanel. I am just curios that they are using Exim as the MTA . I imagine that has an an advantage for using under CPanel. I never laid my hand on any Exim server, I don't even know what CPanel is. If it's a kind of GUI for Exim, I never use GUI on my servers, I strictly stick to an all text files politics: - I have a consistent GUI for all files, my usual text editor; - even from the other side of the world, throught a very slow connection (talking like 12kbps) I can do some administration; - I feel I have much more control on what is doing what, and where is everything. Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Spamassasin, sendmail, Postfix
I am deciding for a good text editor (suggestions? Your opening the pandora box of flame war :) Emacs with no doubt, because I have been using it for over 20 years, over 3 major operating systems (Multics, DOS/Windows, all possible Unix and the like). So yes, I feel very at ease with Emacs and sheel uses the same CTRL/ESC sequences as Emacs :) Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
