Re: ports security branch

2005-12-22 Thread Ian Moore
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 16:54, rihad wrote:
 Is there a security branch for the FreeBSD ports collection? 
No, there isn't.

 Let's say, 
 I installed FreeBSD 6.0 together with all needed -RELEASE ports/packages
 (i.e., those on the CD). Running security/portaudit after a while
 reveals that some of the installed packages have vulnerabilities. Am I
 on my own to go grab the fresh ports tree, and upgrade the affected
 software, suffering all the intricacies of the move by myself? 

CVSUP  Portupgrade or portupdate makes this process very simple, they manage 
all the intricacies for you. Check out Dru Lavigne's article on protupgrade 
for a simple portupgrade how-to:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html
I update my ports with it all the time and rarely have problems. 

If you only want to track security vulnerabilities, just portupgrade the ports 
that have vulnerabilities - that would be roughly equivalent to tracking a 
security branch.

 Debian 
 GNU/Linux has its security package updates, OpenBSD has a separately
 maintained errata ports branch (it's very likely you still get to
 download a newer release of the software, though).

 Sorry if this is a bit OT. I've already asked this on freebsd-questions@
 but they told me there's no such thing at all.

Cheers,
-- 
Ian
gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc


pgpEFZiuYaARM.pgp
Description: PGP signature


ports security branch

2005-12-19 Thread rihad
Is there a security branch for the FreeBSD ports collection?  Let's say, 
I installed FreeBSD 6.0 together with all needed -RELEASE 
ports/packages. Running security/portaudit after a while reveals that 
some of the installed packages have vulnerabilities. Am I on my own to 
go grab the fresh ports tree, and upgrade the affected software, 
suffering all the intricacies of the move by myself? Debian GNU/Linux 
has its security package updates, OpenBSD has a separately maintained 
errata ports branch (you still get to download a newer release of the 
software, though (IIRC)).


___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: ports security branch

2005-12-19 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 06:56:25PM +0400, rihad wrote:
 Is there a security branch for the FreeBSD ports collection?

No, the ports tree is not branched at all.

  Let's say, 
 I installed FreeBSD 6.0 together with all needed -RELEASE 
 ports/packages. Running security/portaudit after a while reveals that 
 some of the installed packages have vulnerabilities. Am I on my own to 
 go grab the fresh ports tree, and upgrade the affected software, 
 suffering all the intricacies of the move by myself?

Yes, although sysutils/portmanager can be of some help when upgrading your
ports.


 Debian GNU/Linux 
 has its security package updates, OpenBSD has a separately maintained 
 errata ports branch (you still get to download a newer release of the 
 software, though (IIRC)).




-- 
Insert your favourite quote here.
Erik Trulsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: ports security branch

2005-12-19 Thread rihad

Andrea Venturoli wrote:

rihad wrote:

FreeBSD only has a current port tree.

The port tree you call -RELEASE is simply current as it was at the 
time the base OS was released.




Yes, wrong wording here. I was aware of that snapshot thing happening,
just lazy to go check www.freebsd.org for the correct name. Thanks for
the nitpick.

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: ports security branch

2005-12-19 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On December 19, 2005 6:56:25 PM +0400 rihad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is there a security branch for the FreeBSD ports collection?  Let's say,
I installed FreeBSD 6.0 together with all needed -RELEASE ports/packages.
Running security/portaudit after a while reveals that some of the
installed packages have vulnerabilities. Am I on my own to go grab the
fresh ports tree, and upgrade the affected software, suffering all the
intricacies of the move by myself? Debian GNU/Linux has its security
package updates, OpenBSD has a separately maintained errata ports
branch (you still get to download a newer release of the software, though
(IIRC)).

On your own, but not in the sense you may think.  If you cvsup your ports 
(I do it nightly for all my servers), then you can simply run portupgrade 
and all the affected ports will be upgraded (assuming you use the right 
switches - I use -ai because I want to be able to decline to upgrade a port 
if it's going to affect a lot of people and then schedule it for later that 
same day or the next.)


I'm not sure what you mean by suffering all the intricacies.  Cvsup will 
fetch all the ports that have updates (assuming you use the right config - 
man is your friend), so you really don't have to do much except launch 
cvsup (if you haven't already scheduled it routinely) and then launch 
portupgrade once cvsup is done.


When I set up a new server, one of the first things I do, before installing 
any applications, is run cvsup to update everything.  Then I setup cvsup to 
run nightly, and only then to I begin installing whatever applications that 
particular server might need.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Adjunct Information Security Officer
University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: ports security branch

2005-12-19 Thread Greg Barniskis

Paul Schmehl wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by suffering all the intricacies.  Cvsup 
will fetch all the ports that have updates (assuming you use the right 
config - man is your friend), so you really don't have to do much except 
launch cvsup (if you haven't already scheduled it routinely) and then 
launch portupgrade once cvsup is done.


When I set up a new server, one of the first things I do, before 
installing any applications, is run cvsup to update everything.  Then I 
setup cvsup to run nightly, and only then to I begin installing whatever 
applications that particular server might need.


I do a very similar thing only I don't cvsup/portupgrade frequently, 
I portaudit frequently and then cvsup/portupgrade on demand. This 
way is somewhat less intrusive, as there are frequently port version 
bumps available that are not security related and certainly not 
required for continuity of service.


When first getting used to this stuff I thought it moderately 
burdensome compared to automatic binary updates, but I quickly came 
to understand the value of being able to choose exactly what, how 
and when to upgrade. All regrets soon faded.


Intricacies and suffering? Sometimes yes, but not that frequently, 
and it's worth it.



--
Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator
South Central Library System (SCLS)
Library Interchange Network (LINK)
gregb at scls.lib.wi.us, (608) 266-6348
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


ports security branch

2005-12-19 Thread rihad

Is there a security branch for the FreeBSD ports collection? Let's say,
I installed FreeBSD 6.0 together with all needed -RELEASE ports/packages
(i.e., those on the CD). Running security/portaudit after a while 
reveals that some of the installed packages have vulnerabilities. Am I
on my own to go grab the fresh ports tree, and upgrade the affected 
software, suffering all the intricacies of the move by myself? Debian

GNU/Linux has its security package updates, OpenBSD has a separately
maintained errata ports branch (it's very likely you still get to
download a newer release of the software, though).

Sorry if this is a bit OT. I've already asked this on freebsd-questions@ 
but they told me there's no such thing at all.

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]