Re: Officially support for 4.7

2003-11-24 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 06:41:01AM -0800, Carol Overes wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for your help finding ISO images for 4.7.
 
 But does anyone know how long 4.7 will be supported
 and provided with security fixes ?

I already answered that, but to repeat what I said in my previous
reply:

According to  http://www.freebsd.org/security/index.html  the
RELENG_4_7 security branch is officially supported until 31 Dec. 2003
After that date you can no longer depend on security fixes being
provided for 4.7.


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Re: hard error reading fsbn

2003-11-24 Thread Stefan Knoblauch

 no, i use the same cable, now i disconnect the drive ( ad2 )
 and get the same errors for ad1. ad1 is on the primary controller.
 ad2 was on the secondary controller. ad1 is a brand new drive.

 regards Stefan


On 23 Nov 2003 17:13:47 -0500
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stefan Knoblauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  after upgrading from 4.8 to 4.9 i got mane hard error reading fsbn
  errors. ok i thougt that is a problem of the 2 years old 80 GB
  harddisk so i get a new 80 GB drive. after restoring the system to
  to the new drive, i get the same errors. the next step was to reformat
  the disk on a windows box. this works fine and the harddisk lokks
  good. i put the disk into my freebsd 4.9 system and do not have this
  read errors. after 1 week re errors come back. more than before.
  i do not have any errors with the 4.8 version, so i make a complete
  new installation with 4.9. yaeh, no errors. one week later the
  systemlog shows me the errors again. in my ear's the system is not
  stable. i use 1 maxtor and one IBM disk. does anyone know what the
  problem is ?
 
 No, but did you replace the drive cable 
 when you replaced the drive itself?
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Re: hard error reading fsbn

2003-11-24 Thread Stefan Knoblauch

 oki, here a tail from the dmesg log

 ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 260800575 of 130400256-130400511
 (ad1s1 bn 260800575; cn 16234 tn 21 sn 42) trying PIO mode ad1:
 DMA problem fallback to PIO mode ad1: DMA problem fallback to
 PIO mode

 ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
 ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
 ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode

 ###

 no, i use the same cable, now i disconnect the drive ( ad2 )
 and get the same errors for ad1. ad1 is on the primary controller.
 ad2 was on the secondary controller. ad1 is a brand new drive.

 regards Stefan


On 23 Nov 2003 17:13:47 -0500
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stefan Knoblauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  after upgrading from 4.8 to 4.9 i got mane hard error reading fsbn
  errors. ok i thougt that is a problem of the 2 years old 80 GB
  harddisk so i get a new 80 GB drive. after restoring the system to
  to the new drive, i get the same errors. the next step was to reformat
  the disk on a windows box. this works fine and the harddisk lokks
  good. i put the disk into my freebsd 4.9 system and do not have this
  read errors. after 1 week re errors come back. more than before.
  i do not have any errors with the 4.8 version, so i make a complete
  new installation with 4.9. yaeh, no errors. one week later the
  systemlog shows me the errors again. in my ear's the system is not
  stable. i use 1 maxtor and one IBM disk. does anyone know what the
  problem is ?
 
 No, but did you replace the drive cable 
 when you replaced the drive itself?
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Re: ppp(8) v. 3.1 : PPPoE lqr problem.

2003-11-24 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Monday 24 November 2003 15:32, Mike Tancsa wrote:

 The problem is that LQR is agreed to with the ERX (the PPPoE terminating
 device on the other end), but it never works.

Works for me. I guess there really are many providers with misconfigured 
equipment out there. Actually, I know people who cannot use lqr although 
they're using the same provider as I do (but they 'dial in' to a different 
AC). Trying to actually get such an obscure technical thing through any big 
telco/provider hotline to someone who can actually understand what you want 
is pretty futile, too.

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Re: hard error reading fsbn

2003-11-24 Thread Willie Viljoen
Well, the problem there is that your drive can't do UDMA at the speed it is
trying to. Replace the cable, make sure it is an 80 conductor cable
conforming to the standards for IDE cables, most specifically, it should not
be longer than 45cm.

If that doesn't help, try setting a lower UDMA mode with atacontrol(8) or
disable it completely via sysctls.

Will

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From: Stefan Knoblauch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: hard error reading fsbn



  oki, here a tail from the dmesg log

  ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 260800575 of 130400256-130400511
  (ad1s1 bn 260800575; cn 16234 tn 21 sn 42) trying PIO mode ad1:
  DMA problem fallback to PIO mode ad1: DMA problem fallback to
  PIO mode

  ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
  ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
  ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode

  ###

  no, i use the same cable, now i disconnect the drive ( ad2 )
  and get the same errors for ad1. ad1 is on the primary controller.
  ad2 was on the secondary controller. ad1 is a brand new drive.

  regards Stefan


 On 23 Nov 2003 17:13:47 -0500
 Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Stefan Knoblauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   after upgrading from 4.8 to 4.9 i got mane hard error reading fsbn
   errors. ok i thougt that is a problem of the 2 years old 80 GB
   harddisk so i get a new 80 GB drive. after restoring the system to
   to the new drive, i get the same errors. the next step was to reformat
   the disk on a windows box. this works fine and the harddisk lokks
   good. i put the disk into my freebsd 4.9 system and do not have this
   read errors. after 1 week re errors come back. more than before.
   i do not have any errors with the 4.8 version, so i make a complete
   new installation with 4.9. yaeh, no errors. one week later the
   systemlog shows me the errors again. in my ear's the system is not
   stable. i use 1 maxtor and one IBM disk. does anyone know what the
   problem is ?
 
  No, but did you replace the drive cable
  when you replaced the drive itself?
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Re: ppp(8) v. 3.1 : PPPoE lqr problem.

2003-11-24 Thread Mike Tancsa
Are you sure you actually connect to an ERX on the other end, and its 
actually negotiating LQR ?  e.g. if you add LQM to the logging section, do 
you see
tun0: LQM: deflink: Will send LQR every 10.00 secs
or do you see
tun0: LQM: deflink: LQR/ECHO LQR not negotiated

What do you have for your ppp.conf ? I have

 enable lqr
 accept lqr
 set lqrperiod 10
Like I said, its very possible the telco has the ERX misconfigured and yes, 
its impossible to get this level of detail out of them :-(

---Mike

At 10:17 AM 24/11/2003, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
On Monday 24 November 2003 15:32, Mike Tancsa wrote:

 The problem is that LQR is agreed to with the ERX (the PPPoE terminating
 device on the other end), but it never works.
Works for me. I guess there really are many providers with misconfigured
equipment out there. Actually, I know people who cannot use lqr although
they're using the same provider as I do (but they 'dial in' to a different
AC). Trying to actually get such an obscure technical thing through any big
telco/provider hotline to someone who can actually understand what you want
is pretty futile, too.
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Re: ppp(8) v. 3.1 : PPPoE lqr problem.

2003-11-24 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Monday 24 November 2003 16:46, Mike Tancsa wrote:
 Are you sure you actually connect to an ERX on the other end, and its
 actually negotiating LQR ?  e.g. if you add LQM to the logging section, do
 you see
 tun0: LQM: deflink: Will send LQR every 10.00 secs
 or do you see
 tun0: LQM: deflink: LQR/ECHO LQR not negotiated

Yes.

LQM: deflink: Will send LQR every 30.00 secs

I even found this way back in my ppp.log:
Phase: deflink: ** Too many LQR packets lost **

So it's actually doing what it should. :)

 What do you have for your ppp.conf ? I have

   enable lqr
   accept lqr
   set lqrperiod 10

Just enable lqr. The default period of 30 seconds is quite reasonable IMHO.

 Like I said, its very possible the telco has the ERX misconfigured and yes,
 its impossible to get this level of detail out of them :-(

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Re: ppp(8) v. 3.1 : PPPoE lqr problem.

2003-11-24 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 10:59 AM 24/11/2003, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
On Monday 24 November 2003 16:46, Mike Tancsa wrote:
 Are you sure you actually connect to an ERX on the other end, and its
 actually negotiating LQR ?  e.g. if you add LQM to the logging section, do
 you see
 tun0: LQM: deflink: Will send LQR every 10.00 secs
 or do you see
 tun0: LQM: deflink: LQR/ECHO LQR not negotiated
Yes.

LQM: deflink: Will send LQR every 30.00 secs

I even found this way back in my ppp.log:
Phase: deflink: ** Too many LQR packets lost **
So it's actually doing what it should. :)
But is it doing that because its never hearing the LQR reply ?   And for 
sure its an ERX on the other end ?

---Mike 

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Re: hard error reading fsbn

2003-11-24 Thread Stefan Knoblauch

hi,
sorry that i do not send more information, this not happened again :)
here a part of my dmesg bootup. i use FreeBSd 4.9 on a
HP Vectra VL400. the problem comes up first, as i add the adaptec
SCSI controller, but do not use a disk on it. and i replace both
disks. as you can see the disks are Maxtor discs, and they are new.
i do not change the cable, because it works perfectly before 4.9
from 3.5 to to to to to 4.8.

regards Stefan

FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #0: Sun Nov 16 21:01:13 CET 2003
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: Host to PCI bridge on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Intel 82815 (i815 GMCH) host to PCI bridge mem
0xec00-0xefff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: Intel 82801BA/BAM
(ICH2) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 pci2: PCI bus on
pcib1 pci2: NVidia model 0172 graphics accelerator at 0.0 irq 10
pcib2: Intel 82801AA (ICH) Hub to PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib2
pci1: unknown card (vendor=0x109e, dev=0x034e) at 0.0 irq 11
pci1: unknown card (vendor=0x109e, dev=0x0858) at 0.1 irq 11
ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter port 0x2000-0x20ff mem
0xe900-0xe9000fff irq 5 at device 1.0 on pci1 aic7880: Ultra Wide
Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs
xl0: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0x2400-0x247f mem
0xe9001000-0xe900107f irq 9 at device 2.0 on pci1 xl0: Ethernet address:
00:50:04:65:69:3d miibus0: MII bus on xl0
xlphy0: 3Com internal media interface on miibus0
xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
xl1: 3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0x2480-0x24ff mem
0xe9001400-0xe900147f irq 5 at device 4.0 on pci1 xl1: Ethernet address:
00:01:03:07:85:d4 miibus1: MII bus on xl1
xlphy1: 3c905C 10/100 internal PHY on miibus1
xlphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
isab0: Intel 82801AA (ICH) PCI to LPC bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel ICH ATA66 controller port 0x1800-0x180f at device 31.1 on
pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: Intel 82801AA (ICH) USB controller port 0x1820-0x183f irq 11 at
device 31.2 on pci0 usb0: Intel 82801AA (ICH) USB controller on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: unknown card (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2413) at 31.3 irq 9
pcm0: Intel ICH (82801AA) port 0x1300-0x133f,0x1200-0x12ff irq 9 at
device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: Cirrus Logic CS4299 AC97 Codec

default ad0: 29325MB Maxtor 2F030L0 [59582/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66
ad1: 78167MB Maxtor 6Y080L0 [158816/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA66
acd0: CD-RW HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B at ata1-slave PIO4
Waiting 10 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a

ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode
ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 257417487 of 128708640-128708895 (ad1s1 bn
257417487; cn 16023 tn 126 sn 54) status=59 error=40


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Re: ppp(8) v. 3.1 : PPPoE lqr problem.

2003-11-24 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Monday 24 November 2003 17:07, Mike Tancsa wrote:
 At 10:59 AM 24/11/2003, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
 On Monday 24 November 2003 16:46, Mike Tancsa wrote:
   Are you sure you actually connect to an ERX on the other end, and its
   actually negotiating LQR ?  e.g. if you add LQM to the logging section,
   do you see
   tun0: LQM: deflink: Will send LQR every 10.00 secs
   or do you see
   tun0: LQM: deflink: LQR/ECHO LQR not negotiated
 
 Yes.
 
 LQM: deflink: Will send LQR every 30.00 secs
 
 I even found this way back in my ppp.log:
 Phase: deflink: ** Too many LQR packets lost **
 
 So it's actually doing what it should. :)

 But is it doing that because its never hearing the LQR reply ?

Yes. ppp nicely detects when they're up and fuzzing with the AC again.

  And for
 sure its an ERX on the other end ?

Actually it's an NRP - it seems Cisco does a better job with their PPPoE 
implementation.

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Re: ppp(8) v. 3.1 : PPPoE lqr problem.

2003-11-24 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 11:25 AM 24/11/2003, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
  And for
 sure its an ERX on the other end ?
Actually it's an NRP - it seems Cisco does a better job with their PPPoE
implementation.
OK, thanks. The problem I see is only against an ERX.  So either 
misconfigured ERX or something about Juniper's implementation.  As the 
original poster was connecting against Frace Telecom and I to Bell Canada 
and given that VJ Header compression also does not play well with FreeBSD's 
I am leaning to the ERX.

Back to the original question of how best to work around this.  I will be 
deploying close to 100 boxes, most of which will talk to an ERX. It would 
be nice if I could avoid having to manually patch the boxes each time I do 
an update.  If I work with my programmers here to come up with a patch, is 
there even a chance that someone would commit it to HEAD and then MFC it 
back to RELENG_4?  Who is looking after PPP these days anyways ?

---Mike 

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NFS related error?

2003-11-24 Thread imbutler
I note on a 4.9-prerelease running NFS server (kernel built October 3rd) a series of 
infrequent messages such as:

Nov 18 14:19:56 nas /kernel: ufs_rename: fvp == tvp (can't happen)
Nov 18 23:06:41 nas /kernel: ufs_rename: fvp == tvp (can't happen)
Nov 19 22:25:29 nas /kernel: ufs_rename: fvp == tvp (can't happen)
Nov 21 09:42:35 nas /kernel: ufs_rename: fvp == tvp (can't happen)

Followed by a total system freeze a few days later :-( Seems to me like a race 
condition someplace. Has this been found/addressed in the 4-stable tree since then or 
is there a pending MFC?

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Re: ppp(8) v. 3.1 : PPPoE lqr problem.

2003-11-24 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Monday 24 November 2003 17:35, Mike Tancsa wrote:
 given that VJ Header compression also does not play well with FreeBSD's
 I am leaning to the ERX.

Right, vjcomp, I don't need to disable that here as well...

 Back to the original question of how best to work around this.  I will be
 deploying close to 100 boxes, most of which will talk to an ERX. It would
 be nice if I could avoid having to manually patch the boxes each time I do
 an update.  If I work with my programmers here to come up with a patch, is
 there even a chance that someone would commit it to HEAD and then MFC it
 back to RELENG_4?  Who is looking after PPP these days anyways ?

I guess there is a definite chance, it's not like ppp's pppoe functionality is 
some rarely-used feature... I myself am only a lowly ports-committer, but if 
you submit a PR and send me a note, I'll make sure it gets assigned to brian 
(or maybe there are already PRs pending?).

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