Re: Kernel hangs if build without I486_CPU
Andris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the same problem, but in my case it was not I486_CPU, but SCHED_ULE. After changing SCHED_ULE to SCHED_4BSD problem was gone. If you shot your foot, don't complain that it hurts. SCHED_ULE is declared experimental and known to be broken in FreeBSD 6. It's supposed to be fixed in 7-current. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd The most important decision in [programming] language design concerns what is to be left out. -- Niklaus Wirth ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with 'periodic' in 4.11 p-24
On or about Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 06:25 , while attempting a Zarathustra emulation Luke Hollins thus spake: Can you post your crontab? Maybe one line has the username twice . Boy - that was the hint that helped me find the problem. How I did this I do not know, but the /etc/crontab was duplicated in /var/cron/tabs/root. That was why the 'root: not found' message occured as the normal cron doesn't use that. I still don't know how I did this - particularly after admining FreeBSD systems since 1995. Maybe I did it in my sleep. But thanks for the comment as that put me on the correct track. Bill Bill Vermillion wrote: I just updated a 4.11 machine to patch level 24. Somehow I had overlooked that machine earlier as it's so stable and only is handling web pages, secondary dns and secondary mail. I've checked everthing I can think of but now all the scripts that are run from the root crontab - with the user of 'root' as shipped in the distrubution now give me error messages. The messages are from the atrun daemon. Here is the message I'm getting just as I bounced it to this account. Theone difference I see in this is that the Subject line when viewed in mutt on the original machine has root?/usr/libexec/atrun. -- Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] root /usr/libexec/atrun X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh X-Cron-Env: PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin X-Cron-Env: HOME=/root X-Cron-Env: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root X-Cron-Env: USER=root X-UIDL: EO^!?h!Y(@!+N! root: not found -- I've checked everywhere I can think of. I've even added the MAILTO line in the crontab with an FQDN address. That didn't help either. It must be something simple I've overlooked or else I'd have seen reports of this before. The cvsup is only for the RELEASE - so nothing is there that would be added after the last security update to that last year. I'm sorry this is so late in time frame of 4.11 - but as I said - for some reason this is one server I inadvertantly overlooked. Normally the OS gets updated the day any security changes are made. Thanks Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with 'periodic' in 4.11 p-24
On or about Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 06:25 , while attempting a Zarathustra emulation Luke Hollins thus spake: Can you post your crontab? Maybe one line has the username twice . Boy - that was the hint that helped me find the problem. How I did this I do not know, but the /etc/crontab was duplicated in /var/cron/tabs/root. That was why the 'root: not found' message occured as the normal cron doesn't use that. I still don't know how I did this - particularly after admining FreeBSD systems since 1995. Maybe I did it in my sleep. But thanks for the comment as that put me on the correct track. Bill I have done strange things sysadmining under the influence of alcohol. Once I even changed my BIOS password under the influence and it took me half an hour to figure out what I set it to. I know it can be reset with a jumper but the hangover was suppressing that possibility too ;-) -Clay ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys?
Mark Andrews wrote: When looking in the querylog for BIND 9.3.1 running on FreeBSD 5.4, almost every other log entry specifies an query. The only client is localhost. I see no reason right now to have BIND wasting resources on IPv6 requests, so I added named_flags=-4 to rc.conf and restarted named. Sockstat tells me named is listening only on udp4 and tcp4, but I still get lots of entries in the querylog: 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.129 client 127.0.0.1#60103: query: smtp.secureserver.net IN + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.648 client 127.0.0.1#64489: query: smtp.where.secureserver.net IN + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.847 client 127.0.0.1#61673: query: smtp.secureserver.net IN A + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.869 client 127.0.0.1#53040: query: mailstore1.secureserver.net IN + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.871 client 127.0.0.1#54473: query: mailstore1.secureserver.net IN A + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.261 client 127.0.0.1#58124: query: 120.86.248.87.in-addr.arpa IN PTR + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.340 client 127.0.0.1#56511: query: static-ip-87-248-86-120.promax.media.pl IN + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.410 client 127.0.0.1#61212: query: static-ip-87-248-86-120.promax.media.pl IN A + What can I do to get rid of these? Teach each and every application not to make them. :-) Thanks to everyone who has answered. As soon as I read the first sentence in Max's reply I realized the issue, and I might now have reconsidered my problem as a no problem :-) [snip] Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 only For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, but from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? -- Andreas ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys?
Andreas Pettersson wrote: Mark Andrews wrote: Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 only For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, but from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? The proponents of IPv6 have claimed growing real-world deployment for the last several years. There is yet no significant commercial deployment--the real world still runs on IPv4. The mitigating factors are IPv4 address space pressure and global routing problems. Every time enough people start crying about too little IPv4 address space left, IANA reassigns more reserved space into the allocation pool and those fussing grow quiet. As for global routing, it can be summed as: it ain't broken enough, yet. It's going to be years before there is a real, sustained pressure to migrate significant portions of the commercial internet into IPv6 space and years more for enough key-player migration to drag the rest of the commercial world with it. The academic and research portions of the internet are not the driving force. Convince MSN, AOL, Yahoo, Comcast, $BIG_NATIONAL_ISP, etc. to deploy IPv6 and we'll get wide-spread global IPv6 deployment overnight. I'll put it this way: When my Linksys WRT54G supports IPv6 on both sides of the router, IPv6 will have reached commercial viability. Until then, it's a research exercise. -- Darren Pilgrim ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys?
Andreas Pettersson wrote: Mark Andrews wrote: Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 only For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, but from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? The proponents of IPv6 have claimed growing real-world deployment for the last several years. There is yet no significant commercial deployment--the real world still runs on IPv4. The mitigating factors are IPv4 address space pressure and global routing problems. Every time enough people start crying about too little IPv4 address space left, IANA reassigns more reserved space into the allocation pool and those fussing grow quiet. As for global routing, it can be summed as: it ain't broken enough, yet. It's going to be years before there is a real, sustained pressure to migrate significant portions of the commercial internet into IPv6 space and years more for enough key-player migration to drag the rest of the commercial world with it. The academic and research portions of the internet are not the driving force. Convince MSN, AOL, Yahoo, Comcast, $BIG_NATIONAL_ISP, etc. to deploy IPv6 and we'll get wide-spread global IPv6 deployment overnight. I'll put it this way: When my Linksys WRT54G supports IPv6 on both sides of the router, IPv6 will have reached commercial viability. Until then, it's a research exercise. Apple's Airport enables IPv6 support by default today. If you plug it in and you have a IPv6 enabled host it will get a globally addressable IPv6 address. There are roughly 3 billion unicast IPv4 addresses. We need to address more than 3 billion machines. Even with NAT and double NAT we will run out of address. DOCCIS 3.0 does its management over IPv6. The big cable providers are moving to IPv6 today even if they arn't supplying IPv6 to the customers yet. Mark -- Darren Pilgrim ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys?
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Darren Pilgrim wrote: Andreas Pettersson wrote: Mark Andrews wrote: Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 only For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, but from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? The proponents of IPv6 have claimed growing real-world deployment for the last several years. There is yet no significant commercial deployment--the real world still runs on IPv4. Just adding another real world datapoint... I'd love to get my hands dirty with IPv6. I contacted both of our upstreams, Level3 and HE.net. Level3 never responded, if anyone has details on what their deal is, please share (offlist). HE.net wanted both more money and for us to order another port with them. For the 0.0001% of our users that have expressed interest in v6 connectivity, we're not going to pay for another FE port just to experiment. I'm sure most other Tier-2 local/regional ISPs feel the same way. If there were a free and best effort service offered by any of our upstreams though, I'd jump at it. My buddy Ike over at NYCBUG does have a bunch of pictures of cheap consumer IPv6 home routers from his trip to Japan. Apparently it's quite widespread there. Charles -- Darren Pilgrim ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys?
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Darren Pilgrim wrote: Andreas Pettersson wrote: Mark Andrews wrote: Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 only For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, bu t from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? The proponents of IPv6 have claimed growing real-world deployment for the last several years. There is yet no significant commercial deployment--the real world still runs on IPv4. Just adding another real world datapoint... I'd love to get my hands dirty with IPv6. I contacted both of our upstreams, Level3 and HE.net. Level3 never responded, if anyone has details on what their deal is, please share (offlist). HE.net wanted both more money and for us to order another port with them. HE claim they are now dual stacked. You shouldn't need a second port. For the 0.0001% of our users that have expressed interest in v6 connectivity, we're not going to pay for another FE port just to experiment. I'm sure most other Tier-2 local/regional ISPs feel the same way. If there were a free and best effort service offered by any of our upstreams though, I'd jump at it. My buddy Ike over at NYCBUG does have a bunch of pictures of cheap consumer IPv6 home routers from his trip to Japan. Apparently it's quite widespread there. Charles -- Darren Pilgrim ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys?
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Andreas Pettersson wrote: [snip] Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 only For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, but from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? eg: http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html http://www.circleid.com/posts/transition_to_ipv6_address/ http://www.circleid.com/posts/ipv6_extinction_evolution_or_revolution/ Cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]