msdosfs performance unbearable

2007-11-27 Thread Dominic Fandrey
ufs:
$ time -h tar -xf php_manual_en.tar.gz
3.31s real  0.43s user  0.51s sys


msdosfs:
I stopped that after 45 minutes.

Also the system becomes barely responsive. The mouse moves extremely sloppy
and a key-press often causes 2 characters to be printed. Mouse-clicks are
either lost or take more than 10 seconds to be recognized.

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cryptodev and ssh on RELENG_7

2007-11-27 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Hello,

I have a HiFN crypto card and can remember that it was used for ssh
connections with 3des encryption (on 6.1 afair).
But with RELENG_7 it isn't used at all (no interrupts) if I
'ssh -v -c 3des-cbc [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Any ideas what is wrong?

dmesg:
hifn0 mem
0x8000-0x8fff,0x8004-0x80041fff,0x8008-0x80087fff irq
12 at device 13.0 on pci0 hifn0: [ITHREAD] hifn0: Hifn 7955, rev 0,
32KB dram, pll=0x801ext clk, 4x mult

crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel  -   0,  41 Nov 27 08:13:41 2007 /dev/crypto


Thanks in advance,

-Harry


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Re: installation problems of FreeBSD 7 beta 2 on Dell D610 (multiboot con solaris, linux, winxp)

2007-11-27 Thread Stefano Spinucci
On 11/27/07, Dennis Melentyev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 2007/11/27, Stefano Spinucci [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I encountered some problems installing FreeBSD 7 beta 2 on my Dell
  D610 laptop, on the original 60 gb hd; the hd is formatted as follows:
  - primary 1, 15 gb, ntfs for Windows XP
  - primary 2, 15 gb, solaris for Open Solaris
  - primary 3, 10 gb, fat32 for FreeBSD
  - extended, 20 gb, 3 partitions for linux
 
  I tried to install FreeBSD many times, but after the geometry error
  (the geometry is however correctly recognized), FDISK doesn't find any
  partition and the space is shown as free, unpartitioned.
 
  I tried to set the partition type for FreeBSD to FAT16, FAT32, FreeBSD
  and I also reformatted the partition many times, but with no success.
 
  have you any idea???

 Are you kidding?
 If no, just read the handbook. And check the partition type for
 FreeBSD. FAT[13][26] is for MustDie.

 --
 Dennis Melentyev

I'm not kidding.

I read the handbook before installing, before writing this emai and
now and, correct me if I'm wrong, FDISK should recognize existent primary
partitions; then, *inside* FDISK, I can format the primary partiton (for me #3)
for FreeBSD.

from section 2.6.2 of the Hankbook
The second section [of FDISK] shows the slices that are currently on
the disk, where they start and end, how large they are, the name
FreeBSD gives them, and their description and sub-type.

Then I repeat my question:
why FDISK shows my disk (with 3 primary partitions and an extended partition)
as a single block of unused space ???

If you have some useful ideas (and not, RTFManual/MailingList is not an useful
idea) please reply me.

thanks

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Re: installation problems of FreeBSD 7 beta 2 on Dell D610 (multiboot con solaris, linux, winxp)

2007-11-27 Thread Dennis Melentyev
HI Stefano!
2007/11/27, Stefano Spinucci [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 11/27/07, Dennis Melentyev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi!
 
  2007/11/27, Stefano Spinucci [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   I encountered some problems installing FreeBSD 7 beta 2 on my Dell
   D610 laptop, on the original 60 gb hd; the hd is formatted as follows:
   - primary 1, 15 gb, ntfs for Windows XP
   - primary 2, 15 gb, solaris for Open Solaris
   - primary 3, 10 gb, fat32 for FreeBSD
   - extended, 20 gb, 3 partitions for linux
  
   I tried to install FreeBSD many times, but after the geometry error
   (the geometry is however correctly recognized), FDISK doesn't find any
   partition and the space is shown as free, unpartitioned.
  
   I tried to set the partition type for FreeBSD to FAT16, FAT32, FreeBSD
   and I also reformatted the partition many times, but with no success.
  
   have you any idea???
 
  Are you kidding?
  If no, just read the handbook. And check the partition type for
  FreeBSD. FAT[13][26] is for MustDie.
 
  --
  Dennis Melentyev

 I'm not kidding.

 I read the handbook before installing, before writing this emai and
 now and, correct me if I'm wrong, FDISK should recognize existent primary
 partitions; then, *inside* FDISK, I can format the primary partiton (for me 
 #3)
 for FreeBSD.

Well, one of us are just using different terminology then.

0. FAT* is not a right filesystem type for FreeBSD. It must be UFS/UFS2
1. Geometry is what you BIOS think what should it be. Not the numbers
on device label.
2. Sysinstall is NOT fdisk. It has some functionality though.

So, find out what geometry is used by BIOS for you disk and supply it
before any access to slices.

PS. There are some reports on local mailing lists about problems with
sysinstall's fdisk. Try just real fdisk, disklabel and newfs instead
(man fdisk disklabel newfs for details).
PPS. Nevertheless, handbook and man pages are a mandatory for all this issues.


 from section 2.6.2 of the Hankbook
 The second section [of FDISK] shows the slices that are currently on
 the disk, where they start and end, how large they are, the name
 FreeBSD gives them, and their description and sub-type.

 Then I repeat my question:
 why FDISK shows my disk (with 3 primary partitions and an extended partition)
 as a single block of unused space ???

Well, this is much more clean problem description. Fix your geometry.
Also, if disks are not ATA/SATA, state this.


 If you have some useful ideas (and not, RTFManual/MailingList is not an useful
 idea) please reply me.
/me disagree here

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Re: installation problems of FreeBSD 7 beta 2 on Dell D610 (multiboot con solaris, linux, winxp)

2007-11-27 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Stefano Spinucci wrote:
 I encountered some problems installing FreeBSD 7 beta 2 on my Dell
 D610 laptop, on the original 60 gb hd; the hd is formatted as follows:
 - primary 1, 15 gb, ntfs for Windows XP
 - primary 2, 15 gb, solaris for Open Solaris
 - primary 3, 10 gb, fat32 for FreeBSD
 - extended, 20 gb, 3 partitions for linux
 
 I tried to install FreeBSD many times, but after the geometry error
 (the geometry is however correctly recognized), FDISK doesn't find any
 partition and the space is shown as free, unpartitioned.
 
 I tried to set the partition type for FreeBSD to FAT16, FAT32, FreeBSD
 and I also reformatted the partition many times, but with no success.
 
 have you any idea???

Stefano  stable@

Your symptoms seem likely laptop specific, so if you remain stuck,
later try mobile@

I saw similar installing 7.0-BETA3 on my Digital HiHote Ultra
2000 laptop: it recognised the 5G laptop disc, but did Not recognise
the 3 x FreeBSD-5.1-RELEASE boot partitions that work OK there.

So I thought, OK, abandon installing on an fdisk partition, install
on whole disk.  It went through partitioning, then failed to find
its file system.  5.1 was still intact  booted.  I assume it's my
laptop ATA interface, seen that problem before.  FreeBSD for old
hardware often needs extra instructions manually to loader to tell
WD/ATA (/or ep0) to run in a more conservative mode.

I'll look for right syntax. eg maybe hw.ata.ata_dma=0 etc starting
in my http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/#loader.conf

/Soapbox:
This frequent `FreeBSD defaults to need high end modern
hardware' is bad for publicity, newbies who dont know where
to look will tell friends: I gave up  went Linux.

( For those who might say buy high end, No! spare old
laptop sufficient for Xterm + mp3 + LAN for stereo in living
room, leaving main laptop free for more demanding things.
Plus not all can afford latest, + conservation, green etc,
...  just needs more generous install defaults. )

FreeBSD has improved elsewhere though on old hardware: The
same laptop that failed to go beyond 5.1 without losing
ep0, now sees ep0 in 7.0-BETA3 install.
End Soapbox/

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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Honza Holakovsky
Thanks for reply,

I tried to kill the process via all possibilities described in man kill :)
But I didn't know there are some processes which can't be killed, so I tried
again running wdfs, but after ps -xacu | grep wdfs I see

USER  PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ   RSS  TT  STAT STARTED  TIME COMMAND
root  971 73,9  0,9 19048  5552  ??  Rs1:03od   0:15,36 wdfs

no D state :(
I'm quite confused, because in state, I have to reboor every time I umount
wdfs drive :(


2007/11/26, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 04:30:01PM +0100, Honza Holakovsky wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm expecting quite curious problem (currently spotted with usage of
  audacious (1.3.2 [20070405-4320]) and fusefs-wdfs (1.3.2))
  After I finish working with either of these two programs (i.e. closing
  audacious windown or unmounting wdfs unit), they still run on
 background,
  and cosume all remaining cpu performance. Even if I kill its PID, it's
 still
  running. top looks like this:

 How did you kill them? Did you use 'kill -9'?

  last pid: 21161;  load averages:  1.30,  1.33,  1.11
  up 0+02:49:43  16:20:56
  51 processes:  3 running, 48 sleeping
  CPU states: 53.1% user,  0.0% nice, 46.5% system,  0.4% interrupt,
 0.0%idle
  Mem: 209M Active, 226M Inact, 105M Wired, 21M Cache, 70M Buf, 54M Free
  Swap: 2048M Total, 20K Used, 2048M Free
 
PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU
 COMMAND
  19163 root  1 1320 19112K  4948K RUN 14:57 81.88% wdfs
  18873 holakac   1  960 79652K 53568K select  13:14  1.66% Xorg
  18911 holakac   4  200   104M 81280K kserel   9:06
 0.00%firefox-bin

 Under some circumstances, a process cannot be killed, e.g. if 'px -xacu'
 has the process in D state. See ps(1).

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Pthread scheduling in FreeBSD 7

2007-11-27 Thread Gregor Maier
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Hello,

I have a question concerning *pthread* scheduling with FreeBSD 7.


My goal:

I have a multi-threaded application, in which I have a thread that
should get higher priority than the other threads. Realtime-Priority for
this thread would be nice but is not necessary.


My approach so far (which worked for FreeBSD 6.2):

Use the libpthread implementation, use pthread_attr_setschedparam() to
increase the priority (scope is PTHREAD_SCOPE_SYSTEM, policy is
SCHED_RR). For the libpthread implemenation that worked fine and did
just what I expected. I also tried it using libthr, but libthr didn't
care about the priority.


My prolbem in FreeBSD 7:

The libpthread implementation seems to have gone and libthr is the
default. However libthr still ignores the pthread scheduling parameters.
(FreeBSD 7 has a different default priority and policy for libthr than
FreeBSD 6 however). I also saw, that libkse is now available as a new
M:N pthread implementation, so I tried using that. But libkse is
significantly slower than libthr and libkse does not always schedule to
all CPUs. As far as I can tell libkse only schedules to all CPUs if the
load is small when the threads are created. I have never seen this
behaviour with libpthread from FreeBSD 6.

And libkse is quite unpredictable: I used a test program with 10 threads
(with equal priority) and recorded the wall-runtime of each of them. The
runtime of them differs by a factor of  up to 5(!).

I have to mention however, that I used different machines. The one
running FreeBSD 6 is a dual-cpu AMD Athlon with 32bit OS, while the one
running FreeBSD 7 is a dual-core Intel running a 64bit OS.
In FreeBSD 6 I used SCHED_4BSD in the kernel, while I used SCHED_ULE in
FreeBSD 7.


My questions:

* Can anyone shed some light on this issue?
* How can I tune thread scheduling in FreeBSD 7? What happened to the
libpthread implementation from FreeBSD 6?
* What triggers the whether libkse schedules to only one or to all CPUs?
Is this tuneable?
* Do rtprio() and/or nice() work for single threads?
* Any other ideas how I can assign a higher priority to a thread. Maybe
even realtime priority?


TIA
Gregor
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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 01:05:21PM +0100, Honza Holakovsky wrote:
 Thanks for reply,
 
 I tried to kill the process via all possibilities described in man kill :)
 But I didn't know there are some processes which can't be killed, so I tried
 again running wdfs, but after ps -xacu | grep wdfs I see
 
 USER  PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ   RSS  TT  STAT STARTED  TIME COMMAND
 root  971 73,9  0,9 19048  5552  ??  Rs1:03od   0:15,36 wdfs
 
 no D state :(
 I'm quite confused, because in state, I have to reboor every time I umount
 wdfs drive :(

Is it possible to truss or ktrace that process?  It would be interesting
to know what it's doing (re: chewing up 74% CPU).

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Re: em driver 6.6.6 regression

2007-11-27 Thread Igor Sysoev
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:55:24PM +0300, Igor Sysoev wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:18:06PM +0300, Igor Sysoev wrote:
 
  On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 04:15:46PM +0400, Igor Sysoev wrote:
  
   Yesterday I have cvsup'ed FreeBSD on ThinkPad T42 to RELENG_6
   2007.10.10.23.59.59 and have noticed lags while playing mp3 and 
   browsing.
   I have suspected new em driver, because there was no lags if wifi iwi0
   was used instead of em0 for network. So I had downgraded the em driver
   separately to 6.2.9 version, have build a kernel loadable module, and have
   loaded it instead of the 6.6.6 module, and the lags have disappeared.
   
   The lags appeares only if browser (Firefox, Opera) does several requests:
   main page, js, images. There are no lags if browser reload simple page.
   Also, I could not reproduce lags by other network traffic: pings, ssh, 
   scp,
   downloading files. There are no lags if I compile and so on.
   
   Some additional info:
   
   The shared irq11 is used by pcm0, em0, iwi0, CardBus, USB, and 
   acpi_video0.
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0:   class=0x02 card=0x05491014 chip=0x101e8086 
   rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
   vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
   device = '82540EP Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Mobile)'
  
  I just cvsup'ed to the new em 6.7.2 version without FAST interrupt and
  lags in sound and USB mouse has gone. Thank you.
 
 However, if I define EM_FAST_IRQ, then lags appear again.

I've just rebuild RELENG_6 with EM_FAST_IRQ enabled and
with Scott Long's fix 1.14.2.5 of src/sys/i386/i386/intr_machdep.c
and all run without lags. Thank you.

em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 6.7.2 port 0x8000-0x803f 
mem 0xc022-0xc023,0xc020-0xc020 irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci2
em0: [FAST]


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Re: cryptodev and ssh on RELENG_7

2007-11-27 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 03:27 AM 11/27/2007, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote:

Hello,

I have a HiFN crypto card and can remember that it was used for ssh
connections with 3des encryption (on 6.1 afair).
But with RELENG_7 it isn't used at all (no interrupts) if I
'ssh -v -c 3des-cbc [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Any ideas what is wrong?

dmesg:
hifn0 mem
0x8000-0x8fff,0x8004-0x80041fff,0x8008-0x80087fff irq
12 at device 13.0 on pci0 hifn0: [ITHREAD] hifn0: Hifn 7955, rev 0,
32KB dram, pll=0x801ext clk, 4x mult

crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel  -   0,  41 Nov 27 08:13:41 2007 /dev/crypto



Hi,
Are you sure you have device crypto and device cryptodev in 
the kernel?  Also, there is a program in 
/usr/src/tools/tools/crypto  called hifnstats.  It will show some 
usuage stats. e.g.


% hifnstats
input 43292952 bytes 182393 packets
output 43292952 bytes 182393 packets
invalid 0 nomem 0 abort 0
noirq 0 unaligned 67775
totbatch 0 maxbatch 0
nomem: map 0 load 0 mbuf 0 mcl 0 cr 0 sd 0 


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connect() returns EADDRINUSE during massive host-host conn rate

2007-11-27 Thread Jan Srzednicki
Hello,

I have a pair of hosts. One of them performs a massive amount of
TCP connections to the other one, all to the same port. This setup
mostly works fine, but from time to time (that varies, from once a
minute to one a half an hour), the connect(2) syscall fails with 
EADDRINUSE. The connection rate tops to 50 connection
initiations/second.

The socket is non-blocking. It does standard job of creating the socket,
setting up the relevant fields, setting SO_REUSEADDR and SO_KEEPALIVE,
setting O_NONBLOCK on the descriptor. No bind(2) is performed. The
connection is initiated from inside a jail (not sure if that implies a
internal bind(2) to the jail's address). There are no connections from
the other host to the first one.

I've tried tuning the net.inet.ip.portrange variables: I've increased
the available portrange to over 45000 ports (quite a lot, should be more
than enough for just anything) and I've toggled
net.inet.ip.portrange.randomized off, but that didn't change anything.

The workaround on the application side - retrying on EADDRINUSE - works
pretty well, but hey, from what I know from the Stevens book, that
shouldn't be happening, though Google said all BSD had a bad habit of
throwing out EADDRINUSE from time to time.

This all happens on a 6.2-RELEASE system. The symptoms are easily
reproducable in my environment.

Is there any known fix for that? If there ain't, can it be fixed? :)

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Re: installation problems of FreeBSD 7 beta 2 on Dell D610 (multiboot con solaris, linux, winxp)

2007-11-27 Thread Julian H. Stacey

 Stefano  stable@
 I saw similar installing 7.0-BETA3 on my Digital HiHote Ultra
...
 I'll look for right syntax. eg maybe hw.ata.ata_dma=0 etc starting
 in my http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/#loader.conf

Safe mode (Hit Key 3 after it asks for boot floppy 2nd time 
(Im using floppy as my cd drive doesnt like my cd-rw media, just cd-r)
This sets hw.ata.ata_dma to 0, with this my laptop is now in middle
of a minimal install, reading distrib via a pcmcia ep0 ethernet.
Good luck.

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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 01:05:21PM +0100, Honza Holakovsky wrote:
 Thanks for reply,
 
 I tried to kill the process via all possibilities described in man kill :)
 But I didn't know there are some processes which can't be killed, so I tried
 again running wdfs, but after ps -xacu | grep wdfs I see
 
 USER  PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ   RSS  TT  STAT STARTED  TIME COMMAND
 root  971 73,9  0,9 19048  5552  ??  Rs1:03od   0:15,36 wdfs
 
 no D state :(
 I'm quite confused, because in state, I have to reboor every time I umount
 wdfs drive :(

By default, the shell uses it's built-in kill function. Try invoking the real
kill directly, as root; '/bin/kill -9 971'

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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Honza Holakovsky
Well, didn't know that, /bin/kill -9 wdfs_PID works, great

Thanks a lot, after your advice I read an article about csh built-in
commands, never heard of it from any fbsd handbook...

2007/11/27, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 01:05:21PM +0100, Honza Holakovsky wrote:
  Thanks for reply,
 
  I tried to kill the process via all possibilities described in man kill
 :)
  But I didn't know there are some processes which can't be killed, so I
 tried
  again running wdfs, but after ps -xacu | grep wdfs I see
 
  USER  PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ   RSS  TT  STAT STARTED  TIME COMMAND
  root  971 73,9  0,9 19048  5552  ??  Rs1:03od   0:15,36 wdfs
 
  no D state :(
  I'm quite confused, because in state, I have to reboor every time I
 umount
  wdfs drive :(

 By default, the shell uses it's built-in kill function. Try invoking the
 real
 kill directly, as root; '/bin/kill -9 971'

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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith



On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Honza Holakovsky wrote:


Well, didn't know that, /bin/kill -9 wdfs_PID works, great

Thanks a lot, after your advice I read an article about csh built-in
commands, never heard of it from any fbsd handbook...


I am completely baffled why this worked.  Why would /bin/kill -9 work when 
the built in csh kill -9 wouldn't?


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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:14:50 +0100
Honza Holakovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks a lot, after your advice I read an article about csh built-in
 commands, never heard of it from any fbsd handbook...

FWIW, the builtin(1) man page has a table which shows the builtin
commands for both csh and sh.
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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 01:24:56PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
 
 
 On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Honza Holakovsky wrote:
 
 Well, didn't know that, /bin/kill -9 wdfs_PID works, great
 
 Thanks a lot, after your advice I read an article about csh built-in
 commands, never heard of it from any fbsd handbook...
 
 I am completely baffled why this worked.  Why would /bin/kill -9 work when 
 the built in csh kill -9 wouldn't?

According to the manual page for the built-in kill command, it
recognizes 'kill -s 9', but not 'kill -9'.

Roland
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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 08:59:06PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 01:24:56PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
  On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Honza Holakovsky wrote:
  Well, didn't know that, /bin/kill -9 wdfs_PID works, great
  
  Thanks a lot, after your advice I read an article about csh built-in
  commands, never heard of it from any fbsd handbook...
  
  I am completely baffled why this worked.  Why would /bin/kill -9 work when 
  the built in csh kill -9 wouldn't?
 
 According to the manual page for the built-in kill command, it
 recognizes 'kill -s 9', but not 'kill -9'.

What's even more awesome is that the csh manpage actually refers to
the use of the kill -[signal] syntax:

   or from a command run at completion time:

complete kill 'p/*/`ps | awk \{print\ \$1\}`/'
kill -9 [^D]
   23113 23377 23380 23406 23429 23529 23530 PID

Hooray for consistency.

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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Gary Palmer
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 08:59:06PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 01:24:56PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
  
  
  On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Honza Holakovsky wrote:
  
  Well, didn't know that, /bin/kill -9 wdfs_PID works, great
  
  Thanks a lot, after your advice I read an article about csh built-in
  commands, never heard of it from any fbsd handbook...
  
  I am completely baffled why this worked.  Why would /bin/kill -9 work when 
  the built in csh kill -9 wouldn't?
 
 According to the manual page for the built-in kill command, it
 recognizes 'kill -s 9', but not 'kill -9'.

The man page is wrong

% xcalc 
[1] 4730
% kill -BUS 4730
% 
[1]Bus error xcalc
% xcalc 
[1] 4731
% kill -10 4731
% 
[1]Bus error xcalc
% echo $SHELL
/bin/tcsh
% 

LSOF shows I'm using the system tcsh, and AFAIK it behaves
the same for being invoked as both /bin/csh and /bin/tcsh

Gary
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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071127 11:59] wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 01:24:56PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
  
  
  On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Honza Holakovsky wrote:
  
  Well, didn't know that, /bin/kill -9 wdfs_PID works, great
  
  Thanks a lot, after your advice I read an article about csh built-in
  commands, never heard of it from any fbsd handbook...
  
  I am completely baffled why this worked.  Why would /bin/kill -9 work when 
  the built in csh kill -9 wouldn't?
 
 According to the manual page for the built-in kill command, it
 recognizes 'kill -s 9', but not 'kill -9'.

Is it too late to remove csh from the base system? :D


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Re: msdosfs performance unbearable

2007-11-27 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Dominic Fandrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071127 00:47] wrote:
 ufs:
 $ time -h tar -xf php_manual_en.tar.gz
   3.31s real  0.43s user  0.51s sys
 
 
 msdosfs:
 I stopped that after 45 minutes.
 
 Also the system becomes barely responsive. The mouse moves extremely sloppy
 and a key-press often causes 2 characters to be printed. Mouse-clicks are
 either lost or take more than 10 seconds to be recognized.

Which version of FreeBSD?  can you get more information about the 
FAT system?

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Re: Some processes stay active after killing its PID

2007-11-27 Thread Ian Smith
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
  * Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071127 11:59] wrote:
   On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 01:24:56PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:


On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Honza Holakovsky wrote:

Well, didn't know that, /bin/kill -9 wdfs_PID works, great

Thanks a lot, after your advice I read an article about csh built-in
commands, never heard of it from any fbsd handbook...

I am completely baffled why this worked.  Why would /bin/kill -9 work 
when 
the built in csh kill -9 wouldn't?
   
   According to the manual page for the built-in kill command, it
   recognizes 'kill -s 9', but not 'kill -9'.
  
  Is it too late to remove csh from the base system? :D

:)  Whatever tcsh(1) may say, kill -9 (aka kill -KILL) has always worked
fine in csh here; I've never used kill -s.  I'm as baffled as Stephen. 

paqi% cat - 
[1] 5186
paqi% kill -9 5186
[1]Killedcat -

Sure that's 'overkill', and that said, I've had processes that were
unkillable short of rebooting, including an errant mpd4 beta earlier
this year, when I certainly did try /bin/kill -9 too.  [5.5-STABLE]

Cheers, Ian

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[releng_6 tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

2007-11-27 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2007-11-28 03:59:29 - tinderbox 2.3 running on freebsd-legacy.sentex.ca
TB --- 2007-11-28 03:59:29 - starting RELENG_6 tinderbox run for sparc64/sparc64
TB --- 2007-11-28 03:59:29 - cleaning the object tree
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:00:00 - cvsupping the source tree
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:00:00 - /usr/bin/csup -r 3 -g -L 1 -h localhost -s 
/tinderbox/RELENG_6/sparc64/sparc64/supfile
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:00:06 - building world (CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe)
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:00:06 - cd /src
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:00:06 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld
 Rebuilding the temporary build tree
 stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims
 stage 1.2: bootstrap tools
 stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree
 stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree
 stage 2.3: build tools
 stage 3: cross tools
 stage 4.1: building includes
 stage 4.2: building libraries
 stage 4.3: make dependencies
 stage 4.4: building everything
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:52:43 - generating LINT kernel config
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:52:43 - cd /src/sys/sparc64/conf
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:52:43 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:52:43 - building LINT kernel (COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe)
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:52:43 - cd /src
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:52:43 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT
 Kernel build for LINT started on Wed Nov 28 04:52:43 UTC 2007
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
--
cd /src/sys/sparc64/conf;  
PATH=/obj/sparc64/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/obj/sparc64/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/obj/sparc64/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/obj/sparc64/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/obj/sparc64/src/tmp/usr/bin:/obj/sparc64/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
  config  -d /obj/sparc64/src/sys/LINT  /src/sys/sparc64/conf/LINT
config: /src/sys/sparc64/conf/LINT:687: only one machine directive is allowed
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src.
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:52:43 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code  1 
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:52:43 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel
TB --- 2007-11-28 04:52:43 - tinderbox aborted
TB --- 2552.06 user 313.46 system 3194.14 real


http://tinderbox.des.no/tinderbox-releng_6-RELENG_6-sparc64-sparc64.full
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