Re: route(8) and show/sticky/... Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 7:02:27 pm Miroslav Lachman wrote: Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! Just a quick note in case there are people here who aren't subscribed to the freebsd-announce@ mailing list. We have completed the 8.0-RELEASE cycle. Details about the release are available from the main web site, in particular the announcement itself is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html Thanks! One question: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html says: -- The route(8) utility now supports show, weights, and sticky commands. For more details, see the route(8) manual page. -- I do not have those things in my man page or route(8) command ? I have one more question about relnotes-detailed.html --- Specific CPU binding by using cpuset(1) has been implemented. Note that the current implementation allows the superuser inside of the jail to change the CPU bindings specified. --- Is it true? I don't have 8.0-RELEASE installed, but I think it was fixed in 7-STABLE right after the 7.2-RELEASE PR kern/134050 was reported by me I believe it is fixed in 8.0. -- John Baldwin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: route(8) and show/sticky/... Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
2009/12/3 John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org: On Wednesday 02 December 2009 7:02:27 pm Miroslav Lachman wrote: Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! Just a quick note in case there are people here who aren't subscribed to the freebsd-announce@ mailing list. We have completed the 8.0-RELEASE cycle. Details about the release are available from the main web site, in particular the announcement itself is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html Thanks! One question: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html says: -- The route(8) utility now supports show, weights, and sticky commands. For more details, see the route(8) manual page. -- I do not have those things in my man page or route(8) command ? I have one more question about relnotes-detailed.html --- Specific CPU binding by using cpuset(1) has been implemented. Note that the current implementation allows the superuser inside of the jail to change the CPU bindings specified. --- Is it true? I don't have 8.0-RELEASE installed, but I think it was fixed in 7-STABLE right after the 7.2-RELEASE PR kern/134050 was reported by me I believe it is fixed in 8.0. This is what is in BUGS section of cpuset(1) manpage in 7.2-RELEASE, and not (fixed) in 8.0-RELEASE. It looks like it was leaved here by accident, since it was fixed on April in HEAD, MFC'ed on August to 7 after 7.2. The practice was to mention such misdescription on Errata page (e.g. see errata for 7.1). -- wbr, pluknet ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: route(8) and show/sticky/... Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! Just a quick note in case there are people here who aren't subscribed to the freebsd-announce@ mailing list. We have completed the 8.0-RELEASE cycle. Details about the release are available from the main web site, in particular the announcement itself is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html Thanks! One question: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html says: -- The route(8) utility now supports show, weights, and sticky commands. For more details, see the route(8) manual page. -- I do not have those things in my man page or route(8) command ? I have one more question about relnotes-detailed.html --- Specific CPU binding by using cpuset(1) has been implemented. Note that the current implementation allows the superuser inside of the jail to change the CPU bindings specified. --- Is it true? I don't have 8.0-RELEASE installed, but I think it was fixed in 7-STABLE right after the 7.2-RELEASE PR kern/134050 was reported by me Miroslav Lachman ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:30:18 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: * There have been a lot of changes in the kernel configuration. If you want a custom kernel, start anew from the 8.0 GENERIC kernel so you don't miss anything. Could somebody who's running a 32biter send a GENERIC from 8.0 so I can diff? You can always grab the latest version of GENERIC for 8.X from: http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/stable/8/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC Just follow the view link of the latest revision. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 07:47:28PM +, Bruce Cran wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:30:18 -0800
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
{ One far, far OT question here: who can explain what dovecot
is/does? why it even exists? I'm familiar with MTA's, like
sendmail; likewise with MUA's, like evo, kmail, and mutt.
It's time to learn another level of complexity, evidently}
Dovecot is an IMAP/POP3 server - sendmail lets you send mail, dovecot
lets you fetch it from a remote server.
Well, I gotta fess up and admit that I've been living in the
past century for a long time! Weren't these IMAP/POP servers
originally for people to use their FreeBSD computers at home
from their university [or work] accounts? I had an IP from
work for several years, then set up sendmail to deliver mail
to my individual machines. i really have let things slide
since I went back to school; now it's time to get back on
track. For the past two years I've relied on one guy ... and
until I am back up to par, if he should get hit by a bus, I'm
up the creek. --Thus all these recent questions... .
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Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
Ken Smith kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu writes: Just a quick note in case there are people here who aren't subscribed to the freebsd-announce@ mailing list. We have completed the 8.0-RELEASE cycle. Details about the release are available from the main web site, in particular the announcement itself is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html Thanks for all the help with testing during the release process, as well as your continued support of FreeBSD. A few hours ago, i tested 8.0-RELEASE's installation by CD with a spare hard disk. There is no problem. So now i'm upgrading my main desktop. 7.2-RELEASE - 8.0-RELEASE. Thanks! -- I understood perfectly. That's the Mafia style, isn't is? -- Jack Woltz, Chapter 1, page 61 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:33:04AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:57:58PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
Altho I am still some time from having my migration from the
1998 Kayak - 2009 Dell done and working, will it be possible
to upgrade my 32bit 7.2-R, p4 to a 64bit 8.0?
It is possible, but not easy. Upgrading from 7.x to 8.0 on the same
architecture is not that hard IMHO. Upgrading from i386 to amd64 on the same
release is doable but tricky; you need a spare root partition to install the
amd64 binaries. Combining these two sounds like a big can of worms to me. My
advice would be _not_ to do it.
Yes, and for now I'll stick with simply going from v7 to
v8--in the 32-bit release... Lots of stuff to get-working
PLUS the server migration from ancient to new. ---eventually
i'll take a _long_ breath.
It would be far easier to just install 8.0 on the new machine and migrate your
data and configuration files. You are going to have to build your ports from
scratch anyway, because you're switching to another architecture and another
major release.
As far as I know, the on-disk filesystem format hasn't changed. (unless your
old machine is still running UFS1. The default now is UFS2)
Pretty sure I'm using the default. UFS2.
There are a couple of differences between 7.x and 8.0;
* The USB stack has been rewritten. I've had to change the following in
/etc/devfs.rules: replace add path 'usb*' mode 0660 group usb with add
path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group usb
Roland, would you please update your webpage? No hurry, but
by sometime early in '10. I do rely on others' datapoints.
But now tat I'm having to do some real work in this migration,
it's time to learn about some things I've let slide.
{ One far, far OT question here: who can explain what dovecot
is/does? why it even exists? I'm familiar with MTA's, like
sendmail; likewise with MUA's, like evo, kmail, and mutt.
It's time to learn another level of complexity, evidently}
* The name of the tty devices has changed in /etc/ttys; ttydN - ttyuN
(impacts /etc/ttys)
What impact is this likely to have on my server? The more
ttys we've got, the better, for a term/xterm/cmdline like me.
But because I've only used my Kayak as a server, I don't think
I touched much in tty-land. *But* I probably will. I can't see
just letting a heavy-duty dual-core suck up so many kilowats.
--Okay, I'll get off the soapbox now:)
* There have been a lot of changes in the kernel configuration. If you want a
custom kernel, start anew from the 8.0 GENERIC kernel so you don't miss
anything.
Could somebody who's running a 32biter send a GENERIC from
8.0 so I can diff?
* A lot of changes as well in /etc/src.conf (the file that defines which parts
of the system are built from source)
* Network cards show up in dmesg and ifconfig, but not as devices in /dev (but
that could be a configuration error on my part.)
Sorry, you left me in the dust with /etc.src.conf. I though
the entire system was built from source. Examples, please?
Since you're switching to another CPU, things like cache size will have a
major inpact. WRT single versus multi cores, my impression has been that the
individual cores in a multi-core intel CPU are somewhat slower that the core
of a similarly clocked single-core CPU. (based on some informal testing I've
done with povray). If your workloads are capable of running on multiple cores
(e.g. make jobs, different programs running concurrently) there will be a
significant speed increase.
You only _need_ amd64 if you are running out of address space on the i386
architecture. Having said that, I've been running amd64 on my desktop since
5.3-RELEASE more or less because I can, and it has worked fine ever since. Be
aware though that there are a few (most binary) ports that do not work on
amd64. You can see that in the port Makefiles by looking for things like
NOT_FOR_ARCHS and ONLY_FOR_ARCHS.
For whatever I do, 32 bits has been fine. I spend virtually
my entire bg working in the 64bit world, which used to be:
supercomputer-level processing.
HTH,
Yup; this has been a serious help; you it will robably keep me
from stepping in it [[ a mine-field ]] when I move to 8.0 or
8.1 next year.
gary
Roland
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Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:30:18 -0800
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
{ One far, far OT question here: who can explain what dovecot
is/does? why it even exists? I'm familiar with MTA's, like
sendmail; likewise with MUA's, like evo, kmail, and mutt.
It's time to learn another level of complexity, evidently}
Dovecot is an IMAP/POP3 server - sendmail lets you send mail, dovecot
lets you fetch it from a remote server.
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Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 07:47:28PM +, Bruce Cran wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:30:18 -0800
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
{ One far, far OT question here: who can explain what dovecot
is/does? why it even exists? I'm familiar with MTA's, like
sendmail; likewise with MUA's, like evo, kmail, and mutt.
It's time to learn another level of complexity, evidently}
Dovecot is an IMAP/POP3 server - sendmail lets you send mail, dovecot
lets you fetch it from a remote server.
There is one thing Dovecot offers (purely as a nicety; it has no
relation to the IMAP/POP3 functionality of the daemon per se) which is
unlike other IMAP/POP3 daemon -- its own SASL implementation. This
allows for MTAs like Postfix and Exim to use the SASL feature of Dovecot
to do user/pass authentication:
http://wiki.dovecot.org/Sasl
I consider this a major plus, given that I avoid Cyrus software like the
plague.
If you maintain a server which runs both a public-facing MTA which
permits users to send mail through it (via SMTP AUTH) and an IMAP/POP3
daemon, then this feature of Dovecot is a blessing. Getting it to work
with Postfix is incredibly simple -- 4 lines in main.cf, and a single
line in master.cf; no need to rebuild all your software to link to a
library, blah blah...
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Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 11:30:18AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: There are a couple of differences between 7.x and 8.0; * The USB stack has been rewritten. I've had to change the following in /etc/devfs.rules: replace add path 'usb*' mode 0660 group usb with add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group usb Roland, would you please update your webpage? Coincidentally, I just did that today. :-) * The name of the tty devices has changed in /etc/ttys; ttydN - ttyuN (impacts /etc/ttys) What impact is this likely to have on my server? The more ttys we've got, the better, for a term/xterm/cmdline like me. Not a lot. If you haven't changed /etc/ttys, mergemaster will take care of it for you. I always change this file, to mark the console as insecure (meaning you have to give the root password to log into single user mode). Note that this change only affects the dialup lines. On my machines I always disable them. * There have been a lot of changes in the kernel configuration. If you want a custom kernel, start anew from the 8.0 GENERIC kernel so you don't miss anything. Could somebody who's running a 32biter send a GENERIC from 8.0 so I can diff? Go to the following URI: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC?only_with_tag=RELENG_8_0_0_RELEASE Click on 'download' to get the file, or select it for a diff between another version. * A lot of changes as well in /etc/src.conf (the file that defines which parts of the system are built from source) * Network cards show up in dmesg and ifconfig, but not as devices in /dev (but that could be a configuration error on my part.) Sorry, you left me in the dust with /etc/src.conf. I though the entire system was built from source. Examples, please? This file contains variables that will be used during a system build from source. The main use is to have the system skip building things you don't need. E.g. if you don't have bluetooth devices in your server, you can set WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=yes in /etc/src.conf, and the system will not build kernel modules and programs that relate to bluetooth. See src.conf(5) for a complete list of settings (with explanations) you can apply in this file. I tend to disable everything I don't need, because bugs and vulnerabilities in things that are not built and installed cannot harm me. And it cuts down on build time as well. I tend to build my own kernel for mostly the same reasons. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpUr4FCKY8WC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:57:58PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: Altho I am still some time from having my migration from the 1998 Kayak - 2009 Dell done and working, will it be possible to upgrade my 32bit 7.2-R, p4 to a 64bit 8.0? It is possible, but not easy. Upgrading from 7.x to 8.0 on the same architecture is not that hard IMHO. Upgrading from i386 to amd64 on the same release is doable but tricky; you need a spare root partition to install the amd64 binaries. Combining these two sounds like a big can of worms to me. My advice would be _not_ to do it. It would be far easier to just install 8.0 on the new machine and migrate your data and configuration files. You are going to have to build your ports from scratch anyway, because you're switching to another architecture and another major release. As far as I know, the on-disk filesystem format hasn't changed. (unless your old machine is still running UFS1. The default now is UFS2) There are a couple of differences between 7.x and 8.0; * The USB stack has been rewritten. I've had to change the following in /etc/devfs.rules: replace add path 'usb*' mode 0660 group usb with add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group usb * The name of the tty devices has changed in /etc/ttys; ttydN - ttyuN (impacts /etc/ttys) * There have been a lot of changes in the kernel configuration. If you want a custom kernel, start anew from the 8.0 GENERIC kernel so you don't miss anything. * A lot of changes as well in /etc/src.conf (the file that defines which parts of the system are built from source) * Network cards show up in dmesg and ifconfig, but not as devices in /dev (but that could be a configuration error on my part.) All my configuration files are kept in a directory that is under revision control by git(1), so I could show you exactly what changes I've made. would get that clear as a first step. My Intell duo-core is very fast; would moving to the 64-bit system be a net gain or loss [in performance]. There is no clear gain or loss answer to that one. It depends on the workload you are running. On the plus size, amd64 has a lot more general registers available in the CPU than i386. On the other hand, the binaries are bigger. Since you're switching to another CPU, things like cache size will have a major inpact. WRT single versus multi cores, my impression has been that the individual cores in a multi-core intel CPU are somewhat slower that the core of a similarly clocked single-core CPU. (based on some informal testing I've done with povray). If your workloads are capable of running on multiple cores (e.g. make jobs, different programs running concurrently) there will be a significant speed increase. You only _need_ amd64 if you are running out of address space on the i386 architecture. Having said that, I've been running amd64 on my desktop since 5.3-RELEASE more or less because I can, and it has worked fine ever since. Be aware though that there are a few (most binary) ports that do not work on amd64. You can see that in the port Makefiles by looking for things like NOT_FOR_ARCHS and ONLY_FOR_ARCHS. HTH, Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpBcwHXv1PX9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
yep. have upgraded to 8.0-RELEASE on a number of servers and it is very boring. this is a feature. thanks all. randy ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
The press release (was: Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...)
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, Ken Smith wrote: Just a quick note in case there are people here who aren't subscribed to the freebsd-announce@ mailing list. We have completed the 8.0-RELEASE cycle. Details about the release are available from the main web site, in particular the announcement itself is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html Thanks for all the help with testing during the release process, as well as your continued support of FreeBSD. For those wanting to do advocacy work for the release, in addition to the release announcement and highly detail release notes, there's also a press release: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/pressrelease.html It is a bit more verbose and salesy than the announcement, but a lot shorter than the release notes. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
route(8) and show/sticky/... Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
Hi! Just a quick note in case there are people here who aren't subscribed to the freebsd-announce@ mailing list. We have completed the 8.0-RELEASE cycle. Details about the release are available from the main web site, in particular the announcement itself is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html Thanks! One question: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html says: -- The route(8) utility now supports show, weights, and sticky commands. For more details, see the route(8) manual page. -- I do not have those things in my man page or route(8) command ? -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 310137211 years to go ! ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Hi Ken, Ken Smith wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html Just a small typo on that page - not a big deal: The press release contains more information on this relese. -- Oliver Lehmann http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.ans-netz.de/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl writes: It is possible, but not easy. Upgrading from 7.x to 8.0 on the same architecture is not that hard IMHO. Upgrading from i386 to amd64 on the same release is doable but tricky; you need a spare root partition to install the amd64 binaries. Not at all, just make a backup of /etc, extract the amd64 dist on top of your existing system, then restore whichever parts of /etc got clobbered. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:22:01PM +0100, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl writes: It is possible, but not easy. Upgrading from 7.x to 8.0 on the same architecture is not that hard IMHO. Upgrading from i386 to amd64 on the same release is doable but tricky; you need a spare root partition to install the amd64 binaries. Not at all, just make a backup of /etc, extract the amd64 dist on top of your existing system, then restore whichever parts of /etc got clobbered. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no Thanks, gentlemen. Mostly, my post was just a pondering; wondering if it might be better to re-do stuff now, But then my new server still isn't finished and probably won't be until next week. So best to stick with what I'm familar with. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
From: Ken Smith kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:06:23 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Just a quick note in case there are people here who aren't subscribed to the freebsd-announce@ mailing list. We have completed the 8.0-RELEASE cycle. Details about the release are available from the main web site, in particular the announcement itself is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html Thanks for all the help with testing during the release process, as well as your continued support of FreeBSD. And congratulations and thanks to the entire FreeBSD release engineering team and the contributors. It's a .0 release, but my experience with it through the release cycle has been excellent. I especially appreciate the new USB stack which has fixed all sorts of annoying issues (and a couple that were a lot more than annoying) in the old stack. Great job! -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: ober...@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.0-RELEASE completed...
Some questions that I hope are not too far OT:: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 07:06:01PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: From: Ken Smith kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:06:23 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org Just a quick note in case there are people here who aren't subscribed to the freebsd-announce@ mailing list. We have completed the 8.0-RELEASE cycle. Details about the release are available from the main web site, in particular the announcement itself is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html Thanks for all the help with testing during the release process, as well as your continued support of FreeBSD. And congratulations and thanks to the entire FreeBSD release engineering team and the contributors. It's a .0 release, but my experience with it through the release cycle has been excellent. I especially appreciate the new USB stack which has fixed all sorts of annoying issues (and a couple that were a lot more than annoying) in the old stack. /* I echo Kevin's congrats, of course; it ain't getting any *easier*, certainly. */ Altho I am still some time from having my migration from the 1998 Kayak - 2009 Dell done and working, will it be possible to upgrade my 32bit 7.2-R, p4 to a 64bit 8.0? Even tho i am documenting __everything__, it isn't something I would care to do more than necessary. In going from 32bits to 64, does the filesystem change? My hunch is that it does, but thought I would get that clear as a first step. My Intell duo-core is very fast; would moving to the 64-bit system be a net gain or loss [in performance]. Eventuaaly, I *will* have 64-bit micros, killers or otherwise, :-) ... thanks in advance. Great job! -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: ober...@es.netPhone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
