Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
4) Is your motherboard set to use AHCI for the SATA (ICH7) controller? There's reports that SATA300 is only available/used on some controllers when AHCI is used. I dont know. I could not find such a similar option on BIOS, so I dont know how to check it. Is it possible to be checked from system? Just to let everyone know, for me this AHCI thing made the whole difference. On BIOS there were some options to be combined with AHCI, and doing the right combination made the disk get controlled as SATA300. Thank you veryone, specially Jeremy Chadwick for the valuable inputs. -- === Eduardo Meyer pessoal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profissional: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
On 7/26/07, Eduardo Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/22/07, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 12:10:12AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: 'k, I just bought a new desktop, SATA/300MB/s interface, and this drive: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=254 Web site states 3Gb/s ... I'm seeing same SATA!50: Seagate and WDC both ship SATA300 drives with a SATA150-limiting jumper on them. It's documented on the drive itself, and in the manufacturing manuals. Both companies do this as a precaution; there are some buggy chipsets out there which claim to support SATA300 but then break badly when utilising it. This is why the jumper's set to SATA150 by default. Chances are your drives have the jumper limiting the drive to SATA150. I have the same situation here, but not the same hardware: atapci0: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem 0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ad0: 76319MB SAMSUNG HD080HJ ZH100-47 at ata0-master SATA150 This drive is withtout the jumper, which according to the manual means it should operate as SATA300 (while with jumper plugged, it is limited to SATA150). But it is only controlled as SATA150. So, chances are my disc also have some problem? -- === Eduardo Meyer pessoal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profissional: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is me too. FreeBSD services.wearab.net 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Jul 24 05:07:02 GMT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SERVICES amd64 ACPI APIC Table: INTEL D946GZIS Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2397.61-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF Cores per package: 2 usable memory = 2130096128 (2031 MB) avail memory = 2055856128 (1960 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs atapci0: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x20a0-0x20af mem 0x9020-0x902003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] ad0: 70911MB WDC WD740ADFD-60NLR1 20.07P20 at ata0-master SATA150 ad2: 238474MB WDC WD2500JD-50FYB0 02.05D02 at ata1-master SATA150 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
On 7/26/07, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:55:48AM -0300, Eduardo Meyer wrote: I have the same situation here, but not the same hardware: atapci0: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem 0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ad0: 76319MB SAMSUNG HD080HJ ZH100-47 at ata0-master SATA150 This drive is withtout the jumper, which according to the manual means it should operate as SATA300 (while with jumper plugged, it is limited to SATA150). But it is only controlled as SATA150. A few things (I'm not doubting your claim of a problem, just trying to track it down): Thank you a lot for asking. 1) What FreeBSD version and build date? uname -a would suffice. It is: 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #2: Sun Jun 24 23:37:46 BRT 2007 2) What controller (atapciX) is mapped to ata0? You didn't include this in your dmesg output. atapci0: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem 0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 3) Output of atacontrol cap ad0? # atacontrol cap ad0 Protocol Serial ATA II device model SAMSUNG HD080HJ serial number S0JRJ56P629171 firmware revision ZH100-47 cylinders 16383 heads 16 sectors/track 63 lba supported 156301488 sectors lba48 supported 156301488 sectors dma supported overlap not supported Feature Support EnableValue Vendor write cacheyes yes read ahead yes yes Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes - 31/0x1F Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 31/0x1F SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management no no 0/0x00 automatic acoustic management yes no 0/0x00 254/0xFE 4) Is your motherboard set to use AHCI for the SATA (ICH7) controller? There's reports that SATA300 is only available/used on some controllers when AHCI is used. I dont know. I could not find such a similar option on BIOS, so I dont know how to check it. Is it possible to be checked from system? 5) This drive isn't available in the United States, so I'll have to go off of foreign docs. AUS docs don't show this drive as having any such jumper, but the docs are sparse: It is made in Korea. http://www.samsung.com/au/support/productsupport/download/Model_Select.aspx?type=Hard+Disk+Drivetypecode=12subtype=HDD%283%2E5%29cmssubtypecode=1203model=HD080HJfiletype=UM 6) Have you tried following the opposite the documentation you have recommends? That is: try putting the jumper on and see if SATA300 is negotiated? Or is it SATA150 regardless of the jumper setting? Yes, but no difference. -- === Eduardo Meyer pessoal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profissional: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 10:14:02AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: 5) This drive isn't available in the United States, so I'll have to go off of foreign docs. AUS docs don't show this drive as having any such jumper, but the docs are sparse: http://www.samsung.com/au/support/productsupport/download/Model_Select.aspx?type=Hard+Disk+Drivetypecode=12subtype=HDD%283%2E5%29cmssubtypecode=1203model=HD080HJfiletype=UM I stand corrected, though in a weird way: Version 5.0 of the manual for this disk does not mention any jumper. Instead, Samsung insists you use software to ensure SATA150. From the 5.0 manual: Note: In some rare cases SATA 1.5Gb/s hosts can not establish SATA interface connection with SATA 3.0Gb/s devices due to interface protocol issues. In this case you should switch your drive to SATA 1.5Gb/s speed with a software which we are providing via www.samsunghdd.com. The amusing part is that Version 3.0 and 4.0 of the manual mention the drive having a SATA150-limit jumper. P.S. -- I'm pulling freebsd-questions off the To list, because I'm getting mails stating moderators need to approve my posts due to too many recipients (I assume due to list cross-posting). -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:55:48AM -0300, Eduardo Meyer wrote: I have the same situation here, but not the same hardware: atapci0: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem 0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ad0: 76319MB SAMSUNG HD080HJ ZH100-47 at ata0-master SATA150 This drive is withtout the jumper, which according to the manual means it should operate as SATA300 (while with jumper plugged, it is limited to SATA150). But it is only controlled as SATA150. A few things (I'm not doubting your claim of a problem, just trying to track it down): 1) What FreeBSD version and build date? uname -a would suffice. 2) What controller (atapciX) is mapped to ata0? You didn't include this in your dmesg output. 3) Output of atacontrol cap ad0? 4) Is your motherboard set to use AHCI for the SATA (ICH7) controller? There's reports that SATA300 is only available/used on some controllers when AHCI is used. 5) This drive isn't available in the United States, so I'll have to go off of foreign docs. AUS docs don't show this drive as having any such jumper, but the docs are sparse: http://www.samsung.com/au/support/productsupport/download/Model_Select.aspx?type=Hard+Disk+Drivetypecode=12subtype=HDD%283%2E5%29cmssubtypecode=1203model=HD080HJfiletype=UM 6) Have you tried following the opposite the documentation you have recommends? That is: try putting the jumper on and see if SATA300 is negotiated? Or is it SATA150 regardless of the jumper setting? 7) Another FreeBSD user using this drive does in fact see SATA300 negotiated speed from it when using an nForce MCP55 SATA300 controller. http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2006-12/msg01421.html I'm left wondering if there's actually two revisions of this drive floating around on the market; an older one that only supports SATA150, and a newer that supports SATA300. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:50:32PM +0300, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: Here is me too. ad0: 70911MB WDC WD740ADFD-60NLR1 20.07P20 at ata0-master SATA150 ad2: 238474MB WDC WD2500JD-50FYB0 02.05D02 at ata1-master SATA150 Did you bother to look at the documentation on the disks you're buying? It doesn't seem like it. Taken from Western Digital's specifications for the above drives: WD740ADFD -- http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1405p_created=1135201452 WD2000JD -- http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1027p_created=1056559256 Summary: WD740ADFD -- 1rpm, 4.5ms seek, SATA150, 16MB cache WD2000JD -- 7200rpm, 8.9ms seek, SATA150, 8MB cache Neither of these drives have SATA300-capable controllers on them. Therefore, there is no problem. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
- Original Message - From: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eduardo Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tim Daneliuk [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FreeBSD Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:50 PM Subject: Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150 On 7/26/07, Eduardo Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/22/07, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 12:10:12AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: 'k, I just bought a new desktop, SATA/300MB/s interface, and this drive: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=254 Web site states 3Gb/s ... I'm seeing same SATA!50: Seagate and WDC both ship SATA300 drives with a SATA150-limiting jumper on them. It's documented on the drive itself, and in the manufacturing manuals. Both companies do this as a precaution; there are some buggy chipsets out there which claim to support SATA300 but then break badly when utilising it. This is why the jumper's set to SATA150 by default. Chances are your drives have the jumper limiting the drive to SATA150. I have the same situation here, but not the same hardware: atapci0: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem 0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ad0: 76319MB SAMSUNG HD080HJ ZH100-47 at ata0-master SATA150 This drive is withtout the jumper, which according to the manual means it should operate as SATA300 (while with jumper plugged, it is limited to SATA150). But it is only controlled as SATA150. So, chances are my disc also have some problem? -- === Eduardo Meyer pessoal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profissional: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is me too. FreeBSD services.wearab.net 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Jul 24 05:07:02 GMT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SERVICES amd64 ACPI APIC Table: INTEL D946GZIS Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2397.61-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0xe3bdSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF Cores per package: 2 usable memory = 2130096128 (2031 MB) avail memory = 2055856128 (1960 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs atapci0: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x20a0-0x20af mem 0x9020-0x902003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] ad0: 70911MB WDC WD740ADFD-60NLR1 20.07P20 at ata0-master SATA150 ad2: 238474MB WDC WD2500JD-50FYB0 02.05D02 at ata1-master SATA150 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ Running at SATA1 instead of SATA2 speeds I really think is hardware related. To be honest I wouldn't worry about it if I was you. You're not going to get more than 90MB/s off the platters on a good day anyways so the bus speed isn't going to slow anything down. I've got 2 RAID-0 arrays with 4 drives each. 64k stripe size. One array is SATA1 and the other is SATA2. I get the same read/write speeds to each array of around 280MB/s which works back to 70MB/s per drive which is not bad considering the arrays are about 85% full. Empty disks give you better speeds. -Clay ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
On 7/22/07, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 12:10:12AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: 'k, I just bought a new desktop, SATA/300MB/s interface, and this drive: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=254 Web site states 3Gb/s ... I'm seeing same SATA!50: Seagate and WDC both ship SATA300 drives with a SATA150-limiting jumper on them. It's documented on the drive itself, and in the manufacturing manuals. Both companies do this as a precaution; there are some buggy chipsets out there which claim to support SATA300 but then break badly when utilising it. This is why the jumper's set to SATA150 by default. Chances are your drives have the jumper limiting the drive to SATA150. I have the same situation here, but not the same hardware: atapci0: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem 0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 ad0: 76319MB SAMSUNG HD080HJ ZH100-47 at ata0-master SATA150 This drive is withtout the jumper, which according to the manual means it should operate as SATA300 (while with jumper plugged, it is limited to SATA150). But it is only controlled as SATA150. So, chances are my disc also have some problem? -- === Eduardo Meyer pessoal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profissional: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
On 7/26/07, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 10:14:02AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: 5) This drive isn't available in the United States, so I'll have to go off of foreign docs. AUS docs don't show this drive as having any such jumper, but the docs are sparse: http://www.samsung.com/au/support/productsupport/download/Model_Select.aspx?type=Hard+Disk+Drivetypecode=12subtype=HDD%283%2E5%29cmssubtypecode=1203model=HD080HJfiletype=UM I stand corrected, though in a weird way: Version 5.0 of the manual for this disk does not mention any jumper. Instead, Samsung insists you use software to ensure SATA150. From the 5.0 manual: Note: In some rare cases SATA 1.5Gb/s hosts can not establish SATA interface connection with SATA 3.0Gb/s devices due to interface protocol issues. In this case you should switch your drive to SATA 1.5Gb/s speed with a software which we are providing via www.samsunghdd.com. The amusing part is that Version 3.0 and 4.0 of the manual mention the drive having a SATA150-limit jumper. So it is probably a difference related to the date/version of the disk. Mine one has the jumper. Probably some newer ones need it to be software-configured. I think I can find a nVidia chipsed SATA2 controller to find out if this is a problem related to this disk + ICH controller combo. -- === Eduardo Meyer pessoal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profissional: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
- Original Message - From: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] ad0: 70911MB WDC WD740ADFD-60NLR1 20.07P20 at ata0-master SATA150 ad2: 238474MB WDC WD2500JD-50FYB0 02.05D02 at ata1-master SATA150 Those are SATA150 disks so no problem there. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:55:39 -0500 Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last episode (Jul 21), Tim Daneliuk said: I asked this question a while back, but needed to do more digging to make sure I had latest sources etc. I have an Intel motherboard that shows this for a SATA controller: atapci1: Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller port 0x20c8-0x20cf,0x20ec-0x20ef,0x20c0-0x20c7,0x20e8-0x20eb,0x20a0-0x20af mem 0x90204000-0x902043ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 But the hard drive - a SATA 300 device - shows up like this: ad4: 238475MB WDC WD2500JS-00NCB1 10.02E02 at ata2-master SATA150 ^^^ Using dd, I have confirmed that the drive is running nowhere near SATA-III speeds, at least on reads: 968470075 bytes transferred in 7.132891 secs (135775249 bytes/sec) What was your dd commandline? If you've got more than 1GB of RAM and tested by reading a file and not the raw device itself, you just tested FreeBSD buffer cache. According to http://www.wdc.com/en/products/productspecs.asp?driveid=135 , that drive's maximum sustained speed is only 93.5 MB/sec, so it doesn't really matter if your interface is running at SATA150 or SATA300 unless you plan on reading exclusively from its 8MB buffer :) 'k, I just bought a new desktop, SATA/300MB/s interface, and this drive: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=254 Web site states 3Gb/s ... I'm seeing same SATA!50: atapci0: JMicron JMB361 SATA300 controller port 0xbf00-0xbf07,0xbe00-0xbe03,0xbd00-0xbd07,0xbc00-0xbc03,0xbb00-0xbb0f mem 0xfdbfe000-0xfdbf irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 atapci1: Intel ICH8 SATA300 controller port 0xfa00-0xfa07,0xf900-0xf903,0xf800-0xf807,0xf700-0xf703,0xf600-0xf60f,0xf500-0xf50f irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci2: Intel ICH8 SATA300 controller port 0xf300-0xf307,0xf200-0xf203,0xf100-0xf107,0xf000-0xf003,0xef00-0xef0f,0xee00-0xee0f irq 19 at device 31.5 on pci0 ad8: 152627MB WDC WD1600AAJS-08PSA0 05.06H05 at ata4-master SATA150 Latest 6.x STABLE ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGosqU4QvfyHIvDvMRAhENAKDhq0K+IDbZvD9Lcm51aLTwzjhz9ACgnFZz b3iDMLhANYWByT3a7Vu3utQ= =ZnlY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 12:10:12AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: 'k, I just bought a new desktop, SATA/300MB/s interface, and this drive: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=254 Web site states 3Gb/s ... I'm seeing same SATA!50: Seagate and WDC both ship SATA300 drives with a SATA150-limiting jumper on them. It's documented on the drive itself, and in the manufacturing manuals. Both companies do this as a precaution; there are some buggy chipsets out there which claim to support SATA300 but then break badly when utilising it. This is why the jumper's set to SATA150 by default. Chances are your drives have the jumper limiting the drive to SATA150. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 12:10:12AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: In the last episode (Jul 21), Tim Daneliuk said: ad4: 238475MB WDC WD2500JS-00NCB1 10.02E02 at ata2-master SATA150 ad8: 152627MB WDC WD1600AAJS-08PSA0 05.06H05 at ata4-master SATA150 Something else I thought I'd mention in passing (though neither of you are affected by this, but I thought I'd throw it out there so people can find it): There is a specific model of WDC drive that reports incorrect thermal statistics via SMART. The temperatures are approximately 20C off (20C too high). The problem may affect other models, but so far has been confirmed by WD to affect 1 specific model. Rumour is that a drive firmware update can fix the problem, but WD isn't giving out the firmware nor the updater. Instead they're insisting owners file an RMA and send the drive back to WDC. How convenient. Two weeks ago I noticed one (Seagate) drive in our server was reporting 32C, while the WDC drive in the carrier next to it was reporting 54C. As usual these days: Google to the rescue. I opted to do the Advance Replacement, which is where you pay $80 or so for a replacement drive to be shipped to you first, and you'll be credited when WD receives the RMA'd drive. I'm glad I did it this way too, since chances are had I done a standard RMA it would've been returned to me with a there's nothing wrong with this drive note. The new drive I received had the same model and f/w revision, yet didn't see +20C temperatures via SMART. H! The reason I'm pointing this out: either it's a hardware problem (thermistor of the wrong kind being installed), or a f/w problem. If it's a f/w problem, they aren't bothering to update the f/w revision number to differentiate drives with the broken code vs. ones with the working code. Naughty Western Digital... The file I kept on this matter is below, which includes a quote from some forum user. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | = Protocol Serial ATA II device model WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 firmware revision 02.01C03 http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/24609792/m/857003655731 http://forum.effizienzgurus.de/f40/temps-bei-wd-se16-250gb-wd2500ks-t1060.html So I got in touch with WD's Customer Support and I have just being informed that this paticular drive, WD2500KS-00MJB0, contains a bug in the Firmware (mine got version number 02.01C03) with regards to the usage of the SMART feature. The temperature of the drive which it reports is not correct. Mine read over 30 degrees centigrade just after I started the PC up. This Temperature got up to 62 degrees after a short while, whilst my other two WD drives still reported only 32-33 degrees in about the same position in the tower as this drive. I've been told an Firmware upgrade to rectify this is on it's way. http://www.bugtrack.almico.com/view.php?id=468 http://secure.ncix.com/forumpost/displaythread.php?threadid=1026701 http://www.lavalys.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t1372.html = ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
