Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
On Monday 29 October 2007 20:25:18 Jason Slack wrote: I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get into a new apartment together. you really should read manpage of gmirror deactivate or something and then issue the gmirror forget cmd or get yourself a more reliable equipment :) or! ... transfer the apartment to me and I help you getting a new fiance worth the troubles :) -- João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: Hello Jason, - Original Message From: Jason Slack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:25:18 AM Subject: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions Hi All, I am new to FreeBSD, or want to be. I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get into a new apartment together. I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? I apologize, but I am from a Solaris environment and then OS X. Jason -- Don't be reckless with other people's hearts, don't put up with people who are reckless with yoursLehrmann (1997) You can always upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version without too much hassle. Here are the steps. csup your src tree to RELENG_7 Then do these steps as root #cd /usr/src #make cleandir #make cleanworld #mergemaster -p #make buildworld #make buildkernel #make installkernel #reboot #cd /usr/src #make installworld #mergemaster -iU (-iU added to automatically install files that don't exist and upgrade those that haven't changed. #reboot mergemaster made it very easy to upgrade, thank you Doug! }:) Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should also read /usr/src/UPDATING! This file is very important because it contains instructions to upgrade your machine and further information you maybe need. But don't forget to make level 0 dumps from your system before you upgrade it. Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHJ6qMUFlgs4i+HbsRAqGlAJwPjWSXqEnXZQlmclEZEgSjgKAmJwCcCoqp CkNe7Cx6dDoYEE9O8aS42do= =i4iC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
Roland Smith wrote: Remember to remove old files and libraries with `make delete-old' and `make delete-old-libs' as explained in /usr/src/Makefile. It is advisable to remove and install your ports from scratch when upgrading to a new major version, because the automatic port updating tools don't always do this correctly. Not meaning to pick on Roland here... but surely we should be recommending to follow the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING? (as the documentation page also mentions), rather than our own abbreviations thereof? The only source of confusion then is whether to define ALWAYS_CHECK_MAKE whilst building/installing a kernel (as Chris mentions) - which is probably worth clarifying (never do it myself...and never had issues, but UPDATING is a little ambiguous on that point). Cheers Mark ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:25 PM, Jason Slack wrote: but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get into a new apartment together. I've seen plenty of apartment buildings with a no dogs policy, but this seems to be going too far. I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, As many others pointed out, upgrading is easy. Read the manual about using csup to track source changes and then just follow the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING Cheers, -j ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
Hi All, I am new to FreeBSD, or want to be. I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get into a new apartment together. I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? I apologize, but I am from a Solaris environment and then OS X. Jason -- Don't be reckless with other people's hearts, don't put up with people who are reckless with yoursLehrmann (1997) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
On Monday 29 October 2007, Jason Slack wrote: Hi All, I am new to FreeBSD, or want to be. I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get into a new apartment together. I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? With FreeBSD you can (by and large) upgrade from anything to anything. Certainly from 6.x or 7-beta to 7.0 release when that happens. (Upgrades to later 7.x releases will be painless as well.) You can do a binary upgrade, but most people on this list (-stable) will use source upgrade. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html It's really a fairly straightforward procedure, especially for someone with Unix background like yourself. When you upgrade, make sure you're using the source tag that you want (maybe RELENG_7_0 for you, which is the release branch - only critical fixes will go in this after the release happens). Welcome to FreeBSD. -David ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
Hello Jason, - Original Message From: Jason Slack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:25:18 AM Subject: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions Hi All, I am new to FreeBSD, or want to be. I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get into a new apartment together. I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? I apologize, but I am from a Solaris environment and then OS X. Jason -- Don't be reckless with other people's hearts, don't put up with people who are reckless with yoursLehrmann (1997) You can always upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version without too much hassle. Here are the steps. csup your src tree to RELENG_7 Then do these steps as root #cd /usr/src #make cleandir #make cleanworld #mergemaster -p #make buildworld #make buildkernel #make installkernel #reboot #cd /usr/src #make installworld #mergemaster -iU (-iU added to automatically install files that don't exist and upgrade those that haven't changed. #reboot mergemaster made it very easy to upgrade, thank you Doug! }:) Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
Jason Slack wrote: I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? You can easily upgrade from 7.0-BETA to 7.0-RELEASE without erasing your drive. Historically, FreeBSD has always been upgradeable even through major releases, 4 to 5, 5 to 6. Sometimes that has been more painful than others. Upgrading within a major release, 6.1 to 6.2, has always been pretty easy. Later, Jason ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:25:18PM -0700, Jason Slack wrote: Hi All, I am new to FreeBSD, or want to be. I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get into a new apartment together. I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? I apologize, but I am from a Solaris environment and then OS X. Hi Jason, Welcome to FreeBSD! In the future, questions like this are best served on the freebsd-questions mailing list, where there are many more people to help with new-user issues like this. To your question - upgrades between freebsd minor releases are almost always really easy (7.x-7.x). Upgrades from 4.X to 6.x are a little hairy. 6.x to 7.x aren't bad at all. See the freebsd handbook, and the (imo horribly misnamed) chapter The Cutting Edge for information on how to perform the upgrades. (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html). Dan ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:25:18PM -0700, Jason Slack wrote: I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? From ports, you install cvsup and you can keep your ports and OS source up to date. The last time a full install was preferred was going from the 5.x release to 6.x, I believe, due to differences in GCC 3.x and GCC 4.x. So, it rarely happens. Bruce -- I like bad! Bruce BurdenAustin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? Some machines out there have been continuously upgraded since the FreeBSD 2.x days. So yes, by all means, FreeBSD can be upgraded without wiping. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jason Slack wrote: I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? Yes, you can upgrade your system without wiping the disk. You just sync the sources and recompile the kernel/world. The FreeBSD Handbook has more information regarding this, I recommend reading it -- it's worth it ;-) HTH, Philipp -- www.familie-ost.info/~pj ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
Quoting Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Jason, - Original Message From: Jason Slack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:25:18 AM Subject: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions Hi All, I am new to FreeBSD, or want to be. I have an HP Media center PC that has the Viiv 920-D processor with 4GB of RAM. I hate Windows, but had to sell my MacBook so my Fiance and I could get into a new apartment together. I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? I apologize, but I am from a Solaris environment and then OS X. Jason -- Don't be reckless with other people's hearts, don't put up with people who are reckless with yoursLehrmann (1997) You can always upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version without too much hassle. Here are the steps. csup your src tree to RELENG_7 Then do these steps as root #cd /usr/src #make cleandir #make cleanworld #mergemaster -p #make buildworld #make buildkernel ^ #make installkernel ^^^ Shouldn't the above two lines read: make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE or possibly: make -DALWAYS_CHECK_MAKE buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make -DALWAYS_CHECK_MAKE installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE Naturally, everyone has their own slight variations to suite their chosen env. But I thought these were a no-op. #reboot #cd /usr/src #make installworld #mergemaster -iU (-iU added to automatically install files that don't exist and upgrade those that haven't changed. #reboot mergemaster made it very easy to upgrade, thank you Doug! }:) Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- panic: kernel trap (ignored) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 07:04:43AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: Jason Slack wrote: I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? You can easily upgrade from 7.0-BETA to 7.0-RELEASE without erasing your drive. Historically, FreeBSD has always been upgradeable even through major releases, 4 to 5, 5 to 6. Sometimes that has been more painful than others. Upgrading within a major release, 6.1 to 6.2, has always been pretty easy. Remember to remove old files and libraries with `make delete-old' and `make delete-old-libs' as explained in /usr/src/Makefile. It is advisable to remove and install your ports from scratch when upgrading to a new major version, because the automatic port updating tools don't always do this correctly. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpm6iEtomtTm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
Bruce Burden wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:25:18PM -0700, Jason Slack wrote: I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? From ports, you install cvsup and you can keep your ports and OS source up to date. The last time a full install was preferred was going from the 5.x release to 6.x, I believe, due to differences in GCC 3.x and GCC 4.x. So, it rarely happens. Bruce Actually there was a 5.5-6.x upgrade path. I took it. The last re-install jump was 4-5 since the ODS changed with UFS2. Even there, you could stay with the old format, but you didn't get things like disk snapshots. Major version upgrades have typically been more time consuming than painful depending on the features you used (although early versions of 5.x had a higher pain ratio). Minor version point releases are usually even less so. 6.x has been relatively pain free for me, and reputedly 7.x is even smoother. jim ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading FreeBSD Questions
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:36:27AM -0500, Bruce Burden wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:25:18PM -0700, Jason Slack wrote: I want to try version 7 as it has items of interest to me, but I am not one to continually wipe and reload my machine, can you upgrade from the test releases of 7 available now to the final release when ready? Or do you have to wipe? From ports, you install cvsup and you can keep your ports and OS source up to date. No need to do that anymore. A replacement for cvsup called csup is in the base system in 6.x. The last time a full install was preferred was going from the 5.x release to 6.x, I believe, due to differences in GCC 3.x and GCC 4.x. So, it rarely happens. Version 6.x still uses gcc 3.4 as the system compiler. It is 7.x that uses gcc 4.2. I've performed a source upgrade from 6 to 7 without problems. I did however remove all ports and reinstalled them from scratch, to clean out all the ports cruft. There is also some interesting advice about cleaning up your system after a source upgrade in /usr/scr/Makefile. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp83avFdkAsb.pgp Description: PGP signature
