Re: [Freedos-user] [super long subject line]
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:45:45 -0400, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: ... My first question is, what OS is currently installed on your machine? Second, can it boot from LAN? If you are trying to install Linux from Windows you should look into a thing called wubi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(Ubuntu_installer) I have a bunch of PCs with neither floppy nor optical drives, and installing multiple OSs is still doable although it can get complicated. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [super long subject line]
Hi, On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:32 AM, TJ Edmister damag...@hyakushiki.net wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:45:45 -0400, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: If you are trying to install Linux from Windows you should look into a thing called wubi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(Ubuntu_installer) Just for the record, I'm not really up on the details and don't use Ubuntu, but ... I think WUBI is partially broken and mostly unsupported. I also think they're going to remove it entirely soon. A quick check of Wikipedia confirms this: It is due to be removed in 13.04. (Though maybe someone will fix it, but I kinda doubt it.) http://news.softpedia.com/news/Wubi-Needs-to-Die-a-Quick-and-Painless-Death-Says-Ubuntu-Developer-344545.shtml Hmmm, it occurs to me that 13.04 has already happened (been released), so lemme check ... Have a new PC with the Windows 8 logo or using UEFI firmware? Please use a 64-bit flavour of Ubuntu, installed directly to its own partition rather than using the Windows installer. ... Windows installer is not compatible with Windows 8 or UEFI firmware, and is not available for Ubuntu 13.04. ... Windows installer for Ubuntu Desktop With Wubi, our officially supported Ubuntu installer for Windows, you can install and uninstall Ubuntu easily and safely. For 12.04 LTS only. (Just FYI.) -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] I have a machine from '04 ...
Hi, On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 5:45 PM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: I have a machine from '04, and to my dismay, the boot order is greyed out and cannot be altered. This means I cannot boot from my external dvd drive or flash drive. Neither can I swap the external drive(sata) for the cd only(pata) in the machine; don't have the bucks right now for a drive. I have gotten around this in windowsland by copying the contents of the install dvd into a folder, and in the folder, simply executing the setup.exe which is invariably present. A linux type installer has isolinux, and I can't see how to start the install from inside the filesystem as is possible with windows/dos. I don't even know if this is possible. Any ideas on that? -Rich. You'll have to be more specific. I assume you're trying to install FreeDOS in order to dual boot with Windows XP. If this isn't so, please tell us exact details of what you want. As for booting and installing, it sounds like you're basically saying your BIOS isn't recognizing your drives. (Double check your BIOS boot order.) You could try installing PLoP Boot Manager (http://www.plop.at/) somewhere (HD, CD, or floppy) and using that to boot USB. Presumably there are also other tools that would help boot even from weird hardware (GRUB 2? GRUB4DOS? Gujin? SBM?), but I don't know the details. I'm not totally familiar with most automatic installations, not for FreeDOS, Windows, etc. A quick check with 7-Zip FM (no find option available? meh) didn't show any setup.exe program. Also, FD11SRC.ISO isn't really a DVD, but anyways (Are you sure you burned it verbatim and not as data?) Really all you need is some way to boot DOS, then run fdisk (if no FAT drive already exists), reboot, and sys a: c: (needs kernel.sys and command.com) to write the boot sector, as a bare minimum (and make sure your MBR or boot manager points to it as active, bootable). If you don't have a working floppy drive and image, you'd have to convert such image to .ISO for CD and boot that (or similar, e.g. use MemDisk or other emulation, esp. if PATA won't boot for you). You say USB doesn't boot, but if it did (e.g. PLoP), you could use RUFUS for a liveUSB FreeDOS. AFAIK, no, you can't install DOS from within Windows. It's probably technically possible but not supported here. (You can mount the .ISO in pre-existing DOS and manually copy files from there, I think SHCDHD or such, but I've not tried. Though that's probably not an option for you here.) I don't know, this is way complicated on modern machines, esp. for a noob like me. Perhaps someone else can give more advice if you can be more specific about what kind of hardware you run. (And presumably various Linux distros can boot on anything, so surely something there would work for you, if only to just diagnose your hardware, e.g. specific CD drive brand and model number.) -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] shorter subject line.
Forgive the boobing of the subject line; and to make myself clearer: I am not trying to install linux in windows/dos; puppy linux does that exquisiitley. Imagine you have an old w98 install cd. You could install from the disk, but it is more efficient to *copy* the files from the install cd to a folder in dos, then, in the frolder, execute 'setup.exe'. This will install the '98 much quicker. In similar fashion, I wanted to reinstall w7 on a netbook, and only had the external dvd drive. I installed xp on a small c: partition, made a d: partition with ntfs; using flash drive, *copied* the install files onto the xp on c:, and again executed the 'setup.exe'; choosing the appropriate menu options from the w7 installer, the 7 installed flawlessly onto the d: partition. The last mint which fit on a cd was 12; installed that and copied the install files from 13 into a folder in 12, and here I am stumped, since I can't see how to cause the install to begin executing from the linux installer with it's isolinux,etc.. Don't even know if it.s possible; by the way I tried to boot the iso of 13 using grub4dos, and the g4d couln't even see the iso. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
