Re: [Freedos-user] Sound or Internet - Which would you rather have?

2015-11-09 Thread Eric Auer

> I like having the option to use FDNPKG direct from ibiblio, and connecting
> to FreeDOS via Dillodos, but I also like sound for my mplayer and mpxplay
> and few vintage arcade games. Thoughts?

Add a PCI network card with an old chipset, same for sound.
For network, Realtek 8139 is classic, although tastes differ.

A few PCI sound cards come with various means of emulating
ISA sound blaster, but those often fail (IRQ, DMA, both...)
on modern mainboards. Some (e.g. SB Live / SB PCI) even come
with virtualizing drivers for DOS. Of course mplayer/mpxplay
support some half-new chipsets directly, so if you have no
need for game sound, I suggest a cheap PCI or PCIe soundcard
with a chipset directly supported by mplayer or mpxplay :-)

You can also try Covox (printer port) sound for games and try
running DOS stuff in Dosemu or Dosbox in Linux or Windows...

Cheers, Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] Sound or Internet - Which would you rather have?

2015-11-09 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 09/11/2015 13:22, Don Flowers wrote:
> I like having the option to use FDNPKG direct from ibiblio, and
> connecting to FreeDOS via Dillodos, but I also like sound for my mplayer
> and mpxplay and few vintage arcade games. Thoughts?

Buy a PC with more internal slots? :) (preferably ISA for sound)

Otherwise you might investigate alternative ways of getting network 
connectivity - either with a parallel network adapter, or using SLIRP or 
PLIP. In all cases it will be much slower than a real network card.

I assume your PC has neither an integrated sound card, nor an onboard 
NIC, otherwise you'd say so.

Mateusz


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Re: [Freedos-user] Sound or Internet - Which would you rather have?

2015-11-09 Thread Don Flowers
Yeah, I should have mentioned that my PC has an onboard Intel 82567LM-3 for
which there seems to be no DOS option for connectivity and the sound is HD
and unrecognisableed by either MPXPlay or Mplayer, I have at least one game
that will throw sound out the onboard speaker (Empong).

As for buying a retro machine, have you checked the prices lately? In the
past year alone a PII or PIII with one ISA slot has doubled in price to an
average of $300-400. I do have a couple of Compaq Armada laptops that have
awsome sound and also connect via PCMCIA netcard. I am trying to get a
working Desktop PC that is capable of running FreeDOS and still will run
Linux and/or Windows.  It's an elusive beast. :^)
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[Freedos-user] Sound or Internet - Which would you rather have?

2015-11-09 Thread Don Flowers
I have only one PCI slot on my PC. I have gone back and forth between a
sound card and an ethernet card and cannot make up my mind which is the
better option to have. I am not a gamer so no sound is not a deal breaker.
I like having the option to use FDNPKG direct from ibiblio, and connecting
to FreeDOS via Dillodos, but I also like sound for my mplayer and mpxplay
and few vintage arcade games. Thoughts?
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Re: [Freedos-user] Sound or Internet - Which would you rather have?

2015-11-09 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 09/11/2015 14:07, Don Flowers wrote:
 > Yeah, I should have mentioned that my PC has an onboard Intel
 > 82567LM-3 for which there seems to be no DOS option for connectivity

I am sure you already did extensive research, but just in case you 
missed it - have you tried this one?

http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-006120.htm

the "GIGPKTDRVR.EXE" file sounds promising.

 > As for buying a retro machine, have you checked the prices lately? In
 > the past year alone a PII or PIII with one ISA slot has doubled in
 > price to an average of $300-400.

Surely you look in the wrong places Of course eBay is full of crooks 
that try to sell old stuff for fortunes, but it's still possible to 
build a legacy PC within an affordable price.

cheers,
Mateusz


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Re: [Freedos-user] Sound or Internet - Which would you rather have?

2015-11-09 Thread Karen Lewellen
Well, speaking only for myself of course,  I make sure a board has the 
slots I require before even getting underway.
Or, as is often the case since I have my machines built for me, make sure 
the person doing the work confirms  there are enough.
Just my take,
Kare


On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, Don Flowers wrote:

> I have only one PCI slot on my PC. I have gone back and forth between a
> sound card and an ethernet card and cannot make up my mind which is the
> better option to have. I am not a gamer so no sound is not a deal breaker.
> I like having the option to use FDNPKG direct from ibiblio, and connecting
> to FreeDOS via Dillodos, but I also like sound for my mplayer and mpxplay
> and few vintage arcade games. Thoughts?
>

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Re: [Freedos-user] Sound or Internet - Which would you rather have?

2015-11-09 Thread Karen Lewellen
Additionally, if you live in an area with an active freecycle community, 
quality machines can be yours for free.
  Granted I am in a major city, but I find even p4 units given away.  the 
goal is keeping items out of the landfill, so those using the service would 
rather pass them on than throw them away.


On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, patrick wrote:

> old machines are cheap:
> I find them all the time at garage sales.
> I pay an average of $5 for a tower of any age.
> Sometimes people just give them to me to get rid of them.
> More often, they just throw them away.
> Newegg sells reconditioned machines, usually with Windows 7
> for 75 - 200$ and there are lots of other companies doing the same.
>
>
> On 11/09/2015 07:07 AM, Don Flowers wrote:
>>  Yeah, I should have mentioned that my PC has an onboard Intel 82567LM-3
>>  for which there seems to be no DOS option for connectivity and the sound
>>  is HD and unrecognisableed by either MPXPlay or Mplayer, I have at least
>>  one game that will throw sound out the onboard speaker (Empong).
>>
>>  As for buying a retro machine, have you checked the prices lately? In the
>>  past year alone a PII or PIII with one ISA slot has doubled in price to an
>>  average of $300-400. I do have a couple of Compaq Armada laptops that have
>>  awsome sound and also connect via PCMCIA netcard. I am trying to get a
>>  working Desktop PC that is capable of running FreeDOS and still will run
>>  Linux and/or Windows.  It's an elusive beast. :^)
>> 
>>
>>  
>> --
>>  Presto, an open source distributed SQL query engine for big data,
>>  initially
>>  developed by Facebook, enables you to easily query your data on Hadoop in
>>  a
>>  more interactive manner. Teradata is also now providing full enterprise
>>  support for Presto. Download a free open source copy now.
>>  http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=250295911=/4140
>> 
>>
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