Re: [Freedos-user] zip programs and pure DOS?

2020-08-21 Thread Jim Hall
As Dennis and Ralf have said, the versions for DOS of Zip and Unzip are
current. That's the nice thing about DOS, the interface is stable.

Sounds like what you need is the zipfix tool. I think PKware had pkzipfix?
Check for that and run it. That tool will check for errors in your zip
files.

BTW, asking for MSDOS help on a FreeDOS forum, and then saying no to that
help because the FreeDOS folks gave an answer for FreeDOS, is a rather
strange thing. It's like asking Linus Torvalds what his favorite Windows
program is.

Jim

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 10:47 PM Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> sorry,  let me correct my question.
> It  appears that the edition of info zip's zip and unzip programs are not
> current, from 2008 and 2009, according to my google.
> Unfortunately sourceforge no longer lets you download from there without
> JavaScript,  these days.
> So my goal is the most current edition, which does not seem to be what you
> provide at the freedos site?
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020, Jim Hall wrote:
>
> > We use Infozip, and include that in the FreeDOS distribution. The zip
> files
> > are compatible with PKZip (PKWare opened up the file spec so anyone could
> > make compatible zip files.)
> >
> > Try unzipping your file using InfoUnzip and see if that will extract them
> > correctly.
> >
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:18 PM Karen Lewellen  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> greetings folks,
> >> as stated often,  while I do not use freedos, I am a strict DOS user.
> By
> >> which I mean, not using an emulation, with only DOS on my machines.
> >> For well  ever I have used   the  edition of pk zip  et, al. from 1999,
> >> which I believe was the last dos edition created by  that company.
> >> I have a large archive of all text files, and am getting errors,
> creating
> >> sub directories, stating the file name is incorrect, even though the
> >> latter
> >> is wrong.
> >> As a result, I am wondering if there is a different strictly for DOS
> >> program for managing  compressed files?
> >> thanks for any ideas.
> >> Karen
> >>
> >
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] zip programs and pure DOS?

2020-08-21 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 11:46 PM Karen Lewellen
 wrote:
>
> It  appears that the edition of info zip's zip and unzip programs are not
> current, from 2008 and 2009, according to my google.
> Unfortunately sourceforge no longer lets you download from there without
> JavaScript,  these days.
> So my goal is the most current edition, which does not seem to be what you
> provide at the freedos site?

You probably don't *care*.  I don't believe any updates made after
2009 affect the DOS versions.  InfoZip is *very* mature technology,
and updates past what the FreeDOS site has are almost certainly for
Windows and Linux ports.  (I just browsed current issues and patches.
All are for Linux, POSIX, or Win64.)  I suspect no patches that would
affect use on DOS were in the older versions you found.   DOS has been
dead for 25 years.  Patches only happen when someone reports a bug and
someone else is motivated to create a fix. Given how long it has been
since DOS ceased to be a widely used OS, I'd be startled if anyone
actually found a bug in more than 20 years that *required* a fix.

If you really want to be that fussy about " current" editions, you
bite the bullet, install a version of Linux that will work on your
hardware, and run DOS applications using DOSBox or DOSEmu.

But the underlying issue you reported still exists.  You have Zip
archives that return errors when you try to open them with PKUNZIP.
Where did they come from?  Did you get them from elsewhere or create
them yourself?  If you created them yourself, where are they stored?
(Please tell me it isn't on floppy disks.)  Switching to Infop-ZIP
isn't likely to magically fix the problem if the archives are
damaged..

If you really need to get at the contents of those archives, you'll
need to use a tool that can try to repair damaged archives.  It's been
a while since I've used it, but foggy memory says archive repair was
not something the Info-Zip packages offered.  I believe DOS versions
of 7-zip do offer repair
capabilities.

> Karen
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Re: [Freedos-user] zip programs and pure DOS?

2020-08-21 Thread Ralf Quint

On 8/21/2020 8:45 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

sorry, let me correct my question.
It  appears that the edition of info zip's zip and unzip programs are 
not current, from 2008 and 2009, according to my google.
Unfortunately sourceforge no longer lets you download from there 
without JavaScript,  these days.
So my goal is the most current edition, which does not seem to be what 
you provide at the freedos site? 


I am not sure what exactly you are looking for.

PK(un)ZIP is now almost 30 years old. The exact algorithms used are made 
public for everyone to use 30 years ago. So why would there be anything 
more "current"? Specially considering "pure DOS", which is officially 
dead for +25 years...


Ralf



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Re: [Freedos-user] zip programs and pure DOS?

2020-08-21 Thread Karen Lewellen

sorry,  let me correct my question.
It  appears that the edition of info zip's zip and unzip programs are not 
current, from 2008 and 2009, according to my google.
Unfortunately sourceforge no longer lets you download from there without 
JavaScript,  these days.
So my goal is the most current edition, which does not seem to be what you 
provide at the freedos site?

Karen



On Fri, 21 Aug 2020, Jim Hall wrote:


We use Infozip, and include that in the FreeDOS distribution. The zip files
are compatible with PKZip (PKWare opened up the file spec so anyone could
make compatible zip files.)

Try unzipping your file using InfoUnzip and see if that will extract them
correctly.


Jim

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:18 PM Karen Lewellen 
wrote:


greetings folks,
as stated often,  while I do not use freedos, I am a strict DOS user.  By
which I mean, not using an emulation, with only DOS on my machines.
For well  ever I have used   the  edition of pk zip  et, al. from 1999,
which I believe was the last dos edition created by  that company.
I have a large archive of all text files, and am getting errors, creating
sub directories, stating the file name is incorrect, even though the
latter
is wrong.
As a result, I am wondering if there is a different strictly for DOS
program for managing  compressed files?
thanks for any ideas.
Karen






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Re: [Freedos-user] zip programs and pure DOS?

2020-08-21 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Jim,
As stated, I do not use freedos.  Is there an infozip archive package on 
the freedos site?
My desire would be an install executable  complete with documentation, as 
I imagine there are  utilities for more than one platform.

Thanks,
Karen



On Fri, 21 Aug 2020, Jim Hall wrote:


We use Infozip, and include that in the FreeDOS distribution. The zip files
are compatible with PKZip (PKWare opened up the file spec so anyone could
make compatible zip files.)

Try unzipping your file using InfoUnzip and see if that will extract them
correctly.


Jim

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:18 PM Karen Lewellen 
wrote:


greetings folks,
as stated often,  while I do not use freedos, I am a strict DOS user.  By
which I mean, not using an emulation, with only DOS on my machines.
For well  ever I have used   the  edition of pk zip  et, al. from 1999,
which I believe was the last dos edition created by  that company.
I have a large archive of all text files, and am getting errors, creating
sub directories, stating the file name is incorrect, even though the
latter
is wrong.
As a result, I am wondering if there is a different strictly for DOS
program for managing  compressed files?
thanks for any ideas.
Karen






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Re: [Freedos-user] zip programs and pure DOS?

2020-08-21 Thread Jim Hall
We use Infozip, and include that in the FreeDOS distribution. The zip files
are compatible with PKZip (PKWare opened up the file spec so anyone could
make compatible zip files.)

Try unzipping your file using InfoUnzip and see if that will extract them
correctly.


Jim

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:18 PM Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> greetings folks,
> as stated often,  while I do not use freedos, I am a strict DOS user.  By
> which I mean, not using an emulation, with only DOS on my machines.
> For well  ever I have used   the  edition of pk zip  et, al. from 1999,
> which I believe was the last dos edition created by  that company.
> I have a large archive of all text files, and am getting errors, creating
> sub directories, stating the file name is incorrect, even though the
> latter
> is wrong.
> As a result, I am wondering if there is a different strictly for DOS
> program for managing  compressed files?
> thanks for any ideas.
> Karen
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] zip programs and pure DOS?

2020-08-21 Thread Eric Auer


Hi Karen,

as long as you do not need 8086 compatibility, both infozip
and 7zip should work great for you for processing zip files.

With 7zip, you can in addition also process 7z files, bz2,
gz and tar files and some other formats if you like. While
DOS PK zip was powerful at the time, infozip is more modern.

As 7zip and infozip also have Windows and Linux versions, you
do not have to worry about compatibility with other users either.

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/zip.html

(zip and unzip in freedos are by default the ones from infozip)

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/p7zip.html

Regards, Eric



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[Freedos-user] zip programs and pure DOS?

2020-08-21 Thread Karen Lewellen

greetings folks,
as stated often,  while I do not use freedos, I am a strict DOS user.  By 
which I mean, not using an emulation, with only DOS on my machines.
For well  ever I have used   the  edition of pk zip  et, al. from 1999, 
which I believe was the last dos edition created by  that company.
I have a large archive of all text files, and am getting errors, creating 
sub directories, stating the file name is incorrect, even though the latter 
is wrong.
As a result, I am wondering if there is a different strictly for DOS 
program for managing  compressed files?

thanks for any ideas.
Karen




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