Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti
Yes, Deposite Pirate: I am pretty sure this is some ugly workaround by whoever maintained OpenGEM. The location of GEM directories such as GEMAPPS and GEMSYS and so on was however somewhat hardcoded. I kept getting CHDIR errors about GEMAPPS\GEMSYS. And these were generated from all over the batch file maze! I had C:\OPENGEM instead of C:\. So the batch files couldn't find C:\GEMAPPS\GEMSYS. Because I had C:\OPENGEM\GEMAPPS\GEMSYS. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti
January 27, 2021 6:59 PM, "Bryan Kilgallin" wrote: > I have been editing the OpenGEM code. It's a dog's breakfast! First it > assumes that I didn't put > the OpenGEM directory where I did. Then it cross-references jumps between > batch files in an opaque > way. And the writes to screen do not say where you are in this maze! As a user of early GEM on the Amstrad 1512, this mess of batch files did not exist back then. I am pretty sure this is some ugly workaround by whoever maintained OpenGEM. The location of GEM directories such as GEMAPPS and GEMSYS and so on was however somewhat hardcoded. You could run it from either A: or C: for sure as there is an Amstrad floppy disk that converts the first four system disks to a hard drive installation of all of them at once. January 27, 2021 7:35 PM, "dmccunney" wrote: > Out of curiosity, how much confusion might have been avoided if you > had placed the OpenGEM directory where the code assumed it would be? > (And why *didn't* you place it there?) > > Most development projects make assumptions about things like that that > you change at your peril, and you think hard about why you are > changing things before you do it. There are plenty of valid reasons to want to put GEM someplace else. Such as running it from a network drive. Or simply to organize your filesystem to be able to efficiently find things. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti
I wrote:
I presume that I was responding to instruction here like "Put it where
you feel like."
I found it here.
{But even if you don't have FDIMPLES, you can still
install packages "manually." Just unzip them and put the files wherever
you like. That's the nice thing about DOS - everything is statically
linked, and specific paths usually don't matter much.}
https://www.mail-archive.com/freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg21955.html
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Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti
Well, Dennis: Out of curiosity, how much confusion might have been avoided if you had placed the OpenGEM directory where the code assumed it would be? I suppose it would work right. (And why *didn't* you place it there?) I presume that I was responding to instruction here like "Put it where you feel like." Most development projects make assumptions about things like that that you change at your peril, and you think hard about why you are changing things before you do it. I think that guidance here was "Yeah, well sorta, y'know."! -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti
On 1/27/2021 10:32 AM, dmccunney wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 1:00 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: I have been editing the OpenGEM code. It's a dog's breakfast! First it assumes that I didn't put the OpenGEM directory where I did. Then it cross-references jumps between batch files in an opaque way. And the writes to screen do not say where you are in this maze! Out of curiosity, how much confusion might have been avoided if you had placed the OpenGEM directory where the code assumed it would be? (And why *didn't* you place it there?) Most development projects make assumptions about things like that that you change at your peril, and you think hard about why you are changing things before you do it. +1 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 1:00 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > > I have been editing the OpenGEM code. It's a dog's breakfast! First it > assumes that I didn't put the OpenGEM directory where I did. Then it > cross-references jumps between batch files in an opaque way. And the > writes to screen do not say where you are in this maze! Out of curiosity, how much confusion might have been avoided if you had placed the OpenGEM directory where the code assumed it would be? (And why *didn't* you place it there?) Most development projects make assumptions about things like that that you change at your peril, and you think hard about why you are changing things before you do it. __ Dennis ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti
I wrote: I have been editing the OpenGEM code. Correction: it's the SETUP labyrinth that I've been documenting for myself. It still doesn't work (say colourising the GEM window). But I'm finding my way around the modules, and correcting the jump-to locations. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: I have been editing the OpenGEM code. It's a dog's breakfast! First it assumes that I didn't put the OpenGEM directory where I did. Then it cross-references jumps between batch files in an opaque way. And the writes to screen do not say where you are in this maze! Most of that code was written by Digital Research... ;) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 12:59 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > I have been editing the OpenGEM code. It's a dog's breakfast! First it > assumes that I didn't put the OpenGEM directory where I did. Then it > cross-references jumps between batch files in an opaque way. And the > writes to screen do not say where you are in this maze! > > Please would coders allow for future maintenance of their works. > I can sympathize, and relate. If it were not also a time honored tradition, it seems, throughout the industry [to produce dog food...]. -- > members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Spaghetti
I have been editing the OpenGEM code. It's a dog's breakfast! First it assumes that I didn't put the OpenGEM directory where I did. Then it cross-references jumps between batch files in an opaque way. And the writes to screen do not say where you are in this maze! Please would coders allow for future maintenance of their works. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
