Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
Hi! Like I suggested an SFTP client using XMS or JLM. There are already SSH, SCP and SFTP 1 and 2 clients, called SSHDOS: http://sshdos.sourceforge.net/ SFTP is free, secure and wildly supported across all operating systems already. Is there some information about how to write network redirectors for FreeDOS? Making this thing run in the background might be a bit hard, I remember that it did not even report any idle times to FDAPM... You should read the RBIL documentation about int 2f functions 11nn which are network redirector. The kernel automatically uses those functions for network drives which support it. Eric -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
Like I suggested an SFTP client using XMS or JLM. There are already SSH, SCP and SFTP 1 and 2 clients, called SSHDOS: http://sshdos.sourceforge.net/ SFTP is free, secure and wildly supported across all operating systems already. Is there some information about how to write network redirectors for FreeDOS? Making this thing run in the background might be a bit hard, I remember that it did not even report any idle times to FDAPM... You should read the RBIL documentation about int 2f functions 11nn which are network redirector. The kernel automatically uses those functions for network drives which support it. Umm, yes it does after you modified a drive's CDS to show that it's a redirected drive. So get familiar with some of the data described at Int21.52 (MS-DOS 4+ CDS and SFT, MS-DOS 5+ List of Lists) and some of the Int2F.12 functions, too. The free SHSUCDX source contains all of this (although it doesn't provide write access to its CD-ROMs). It's written in Assembly, but unless you want to use some weird C stuff (that essentially emulates Assembly) you have to use Assembly code to service the DOS calls anyway. Regards, Christian -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
Michael Reichenbach escreveu: Eric Auer schrieb: Hi! Like I suggested an SFTP client using XMS or JLM. There are already SSH, SCP and SFTP 1 and 2 clients, called SSHDOS: http://sshdos.sourceforge.net/ It's a client and not a network drive. This could be a very intereting start point to make something like SSHFS for FreeDOS. I am just gessing, but it only needs to be hooked int a redirector... It could be SSHCDEX :) The main advantage would be that it conects to any ssh server Alain -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
we all know that it's possible to service INT 21 calls in straight C, with very little assembly hint: look into the FreeDOS kernel sources Yes, by servicing the DOS calls (talking about the redirector, Int2F too) I meant the initial assembler entry and setup, which is in files like kernel.asm and entry.asm in DOS-C. I didn't express it right. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
Christian Masloch schrieb: It's a client and not a network drive. So a network drive that shows you a directory of a network server would be no network client? You can perhaps always call it client. But network drive is only the right word if it works in background and you get an additional drive letter. -mr -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
--- Christian Masloch c...@bttr-software.de schrieb am Do, 2.4.2009: Umm, yes it does after you modified a drive's CDS to show that it's a redirected drive. So get familiar with some of the data described at Int21.52 (MS-DOS 4+ CDS and SFT, MS-DOS 5+ List of Lists) and some of the Int2F.12 functions, too. The free SHSUCDX source contains all of this (although it doesn't provide write access to its CD-ROMs). It's written in Assembly, but unless you want to use some weird C stuff (that essentially emulates Assembly) you have to use Assembly code to service the DOS calls anyway. Thanks. I'll take a look at it. Assembly is no problem, it's the language I grew up with :-) regards, chris -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] network drive
Hi all, after having my FreeDOS installation basically up and running, I'd like to ask what the preferred method to connect to a file server share is these days. I'm currently using MSCLIENT to connect to a samba share, but MSCLIENT is a memory hog and I'd prefer a better solution. Back in the days Novell netx was a blast, but my file server (FreeBSD) doesn't support IPX very well. Thanks for any hints. chris -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
This is an interesting topic... If you want you can setup a FTP server on DOS running as TSR in background. http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Servers msclient is nice to mount a remote server into a DOS device letter, unfortunately it's indeed a memory hog and there is no alternative implementation for ms networks. I haven't checked out novel netware but I think these days it will be also outdated, obsolete, memory hog and providing DOS device letter for the remote share? Also see http://www.dossolutions.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/network.htm I've found there an NFS implementation for DOS. Unfortunately I haven't come across any background network drive software not being a memory hog and using XMS/EMS/JLM instant. regards, -mr Christian Groessler schrieb: Hi all, after having my FreeDOS installation basically up and running, I'd like to ask what the preferred method to connect to a file server share is these days. I'm currently using MSCLIENT to connect to a samba share, but MSCLIENT is a memory hog and I'd prefer a better solution. Back in the days Novell netx was a blast, but my file server (FreeBSD) doesn't support IPX very well. Thanks for any hints. chris -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
Hi, If you want you can setup a FTP server on DOS running as TSR in background. http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Servers ?? This is a completely different topic. msclient is nice to mount a remote server into a DOS device letter, unfortunately it's indeed a memory hog and there is no alternative implementation for ms networks. I don't insist on ms networks. I haven't checked out novel netware but I think these days it will be also outdated, obsolete, memory hog and providing DOS device letter for the remote share? outdated and obsolete? For sure. memory hog? I think it's acceptable. DOS device letter? Of course, that's what I want. Also see http://www.dossolutions.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/network.htm I've found there an NFS implementation for DOS. Do you mean TSoft's NFS client. It works quite well (I've used it previously on some other machine), but it's shareware and will cease working after an hour if you don't register. Spending $50 for a registration isn't that tingly, given that I'm using this installation just for fun and MSCLIENT basically works. Unfortunately I haven't come across any background network drive software not being a memory hog and using XMS/EMS/JLM instant. Maybe an idea for a project? :-) regards, chris -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
Christian Groessler schrieb: Hi, If you want you can setup a FTP server on DOS running as TSR in background. http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Servers ?? This is a completely different topic. No, since you asked for connecting to file server share in a modern way. Perhaps I have misunderstood. Unfortunately I haven't come across any background network drive software not being a memory hog and using XMS/EMS/JLM instant. Maybe an idea for a project? :-) Has been discussed here and it always ends with use msclient which is a bit like an operation success, patent dead solution. Unfortunately no one is up for such a project. -mr -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
if someone were to write something that encompassed all the operation success, patent dead networking where would one start? What is the linux equivelent samba? On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Michael Reichenbach michael_reichenb...@freenet.de wrote: Christian Groessler schrieb: Hi, If you want you can setup a FTP server on DOS running as TSR in background. http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Servers ?? This is a completely different topic. No, since you asked for connecting to file server share in a modern way. Perhaps I have misunderstood. Unfortunately I haven't come across any background network drive software not being a memory hog and using XMS/EMS/JLM instant. Maybe an idea for a project? :-) Has been discussed here and it always ends with use msclient which is a bit like an operation success, patent dead solution. Unfortunately no one is up for such a project. -mr -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
Christian Groessler wrote: Unfortunately I haven't come across any background network drive software not being a memory hog and using XMS/EMS/JLM instant. Maybe an idea for a project? :-) This is not a new idea, but so far nobody took that task, because it will be hard work. Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
Well, msnetworks and samba wouldn't be bad as it's now compatible and widespread. Just msclient needs improvement. On the other hand the msnetworks protocol could be updated in the future and seeing updates for dos software is unlikely. Any other cross platform networking? Maybe simple connect to an SFTP server and mount it as share while using mostly XMS or JLM? -mr usul schrieb: if someone were to write something that encompassed all the operation success, patent dead networking where would one start? What is the linux equivelent samba? On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Michael Reichenbach michael_reichenb...@freenet.de wrote: Christian Groessler schrieb: Hi, If you want you can setup a FTP server on DOS running as TSR in background. http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Servers ?? This is a completely different topic. No, since you asked for connecting to file server share in a modern way. Perhaps I have misunderstood. Unfortunately I haven't come across any background network drive software not being a memory hog and using XMS/EMS/JLM instant. Maybe an idea for a project? :-) Has been discussed here and it always ends with use msclient which is a bit like an operation success, patent dead solution. Unfortunately no one is up for such a project. -mr -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network drive
Christian Groessler schrieb: Hmm, talking to a SMB server probably is quite involved (I've tried to debug some samba problems in the past and the probably in the last sentence is wrong). But how about a new, simple, protocol to transfer directory information and files between hosts? Nothing fancy. Might be doable withing a few weeks. Like I suggested an SFTP client using XMS or JLM. SFTP is free, secure and wildly supported across all operating systems already. Is there some information about how to write network redirectors for FreeDOS? If no one answers wait a while and create a new thread with this topic or ask at other places. Would be bad to stop you form being productive. -mr -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
