[Freesurfer] help with using optseq2

2015-07-16 Thread Heeyoung Choo
Hello,

I'm trying to create trial sequences for a slow event related fMRI experiment.  
I have 10 classes of stimuli, and each stimulus lasts 5 sec and repeats twice 
in a run.


Environment: Linux 3.13.0-35-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux


I ran:

./optseq2 --ntp 144  --tr 2.5 \
--ev evt1 5 2 --ev evt2 5 2 --ev evt3 5 2 --ev evt4 5 2 --ev evt5 5 2 --ev evt6 
5 2 --ev evt7 5 2 --ev evt8 5 2 --ev evt9 5 2 --ev evt10 5 2 \
--nkeep 10 --psdwin 0 20 --o exp_video \
--tnullmax 25 --tnullmin 7.5 \
--nsearch 1

Almost all of the sequences have extremely long NULL at the end of a run, like 
82.5sec (please see one of sequences below). 
I am aware that optseq2 is for rapid event related fMRI, and wonder if the 
problem is due to specific parameters of my design, or due to a bug. I would 
appreciate any comments or help.

Thank you very much!

Best regards,
Heeyoung


  0.55.000   1.  evt5
  5.07.500   1.  NULL 
 12.500095.000   1.  evt9
 17.500007.500   1.  NULL 
 25.35.000   1.  evt3
 30.07.500   1.  NULL 
 37.5000   105.000   1. evt10
 42.50000   12.500   1.  NULL 
 55.75.000   1.  evt7
 60.0   10.000   1.  NULL 
 70.35.000   1.  evt3
 75.07.500   1.  NULL 
 82.500045.000   1.  evt4
 87.50000   15.000   1.  NULL 
102.500065.000   1.  evt6
107.500007.500   1.  NULL 
115.65.000   1.  evt6
120.0   10.000   1.  NULL 
130.85.000   1.  evt8
135.0   17.500   1.  NULL 
152.500015.000   1.  evt1
157.500007.500   1.  NULL 
165.25.000   1.  evt2
170.07.500   1.  NULL 
177.5000   105.000   1. evt10
182.500007.500   1.  NULL 
190.85.000   1.  evt8
195.07.500   1.  NULL 
202.500095.000   1.  evt9
207.50000   12.500   1.  NULL 
220.45.000   1.  evt4
225.07.500   1.  NULL 
232.500075.000   1.  evt7
237.500007.500   1.  NULL 
245.15.000   1.  evt1
250.07.500   1.  NULL 
257.500055.000   1.  evt5
262.50000   10.000   1.  NULL 
272.500025.000   1.  evt2
277.50000   82.500   1.  NULL
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[Freesurfer] Regarding: Qdec GLM design error

2015-07-16 Thread Dr Sampada Sinha
Dear freesurfer experts,

I am new to Qdec analysis and I trying to do( using the information
provided in the qdec wiki page) group surface analysis in SCA patients 1and
2 and compare their surface thickness using qdec command. The data  table
is loading successfully but when I go the design and click on When I click
on the Analyze button (this is after I changed the Untilted folder to the
lh-thickess-10), I am getting the following error:

ERROR: QdecGlmDesign::Create: could not create directory
/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/qdec/lh-thic
​k​
ness-10

​​
For display purposes,
​ I put the ​
average subject included
​in​
SUBJECTS_DIR
​ which is ​in /home/anup/Desktop/freesurfer_processed/qdec, with the
following bash command: if [ ! -e fsaverage ]; then ln -s
$FREESURFER_HOME/subjects/fsaverage; fi

I have Discrete facrors: Gender (Male and Female) and Diagnosis (divided
into SCA1 and SCA2) and Continous factors: Age, CAG repeat, lh-thickness
and rh-thickness.

Will you please let me know where am I going wrong?

Any help will be forever appreciated!

Thanks and regards,

Sampada
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Re: [Freesurfer] Tksurfer and Tkregister2 in Ubuntu 14.04

2015-07-16 Thread Reza Rajimehr
Hi Zeke,

I am wondering if you had a chance to look at this.

Thanks,
Reza


Hello Reza,


 I wasn't able to replicate on Ubuntu 12 but it's entirely possible this but
 exists only in Ubuntu 14. It's tough because we don't have test machines with
 every Linux distro that people post to the list  about in order to attempt
 replicate. But I'll install Ubuntu 14 on a laptop after OHBM concludes and
 investigate.


 -Zeke



 On Friday, June 12, 2015, Reza Rajimehr rajim...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rajim...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Hi Bruce,


 I guess I will eventually move to freeview - though I am not quite sure if 
 it is easy to use with FS-FAST.


 For now, all features of tksurfer/tkmedit/tkregister2 work fine for me, 
 except the one described below. So it would be great if this bug, that is 
 specific for ubuntu, is resolved.


 Best,

 Reza



 Hi Reza



 can you use freeview for what you want instead? tksurfer and tkmedit are
 deprecated

 cheers

 Bruce



 On Thursday, June 11, 2015, Reza Rajimehr rajim...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Is there any plan by the Freesurfer team to address this well-known bug?


 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer%40nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg35938.html


 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer%40nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg36193.html

 For now the only workaround is to enter values through command-line.

 Best,
 Reza


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[Freesurfer] help

2015-07-16 Thread Bunday, Karen
I am very new to Freesurfer and are having problems getting it up and running. 
I have followed, successfully the set up and configuration instructions up the 
license. At this point, after entering the license information received in the 
email I try and to exit and save and I get a message that reads   error 
writing license.txt: Permission Denied.



However, we were able to run the Test your FreeSurfer Installation part 
successfully. But when we try to work with our own MRI scans, we receive a 
whole bunch of error message such as:



mkdir: //Application/freesurfer/subjects/subj001: Permission denied



I am guessing this is due to license.txt. How can I resolve this?

Karen

Karen Bunday, PhD
Honorary Research Associate
Sobell Department of Motor Neuroscience and Movement Disorders
Institute of Neurology, University College London
33 Queen Square
London
WC1N 3BG

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Re: [Freesurfer] help

2015-07-16 Thread zkaufman
As the error message indicates, this is a permissions issue. To solve the
license problem, your best bet is to create the license files in your home
directory (or anywhere you have adequate permissions) and copy it to
/Applications/freesurfer. This is described in a little more detail in the
License section on this page:
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/SetupConfiguration_Mac

Your subjects dir issue is essentially the same problem. The default
SUBJECTS_DIR (/Application/freesurfer/subjects) is write protected. So
either place the subject data somewhere you adequate permissions, and set
the SUBJECTS_DIR accordingly, or open up the permissions if the default
SUBJECTS_DIR using the following coomand:

$ sudo chmod -R a+w /Applications/freesurfer

Cheers,

-Zeke


 I am very new to Freesurfer and are having problems getting it up and
 running. I have followed, successfully the set up and configuration
 instructions up the license. At this point, after entering the license
 information received in the email I try and to exit and save and I get a
 message that reads   error writing license.txt: Permission Denied.



 However, we were able to run the Test your FreeSurfer Installation part
 successfully. But when we try to work with our own MRI scans, we receive a
 whole bunch of error message such as:



 mkdir: //Application/freesurfer/subjects/subj001: Permission denied



 I am guessing this is due to license.txt. How can I resolve this?

 Karen

 Karen Bunday, PhD
 Honorary Research Associate
 Sobell Department of Motor Neuroscience and Movement Disorders
 Institute of Neurology, University College London
 33 Queen Square
 London
 WC1N 3BG

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[Freesurfer] (no subject)

2015-07-16 Thread amirhossein manzouri
Hi FS,
MR images of two of my subjects in a group have been acquired with
different T1 protocol from the rest. All the subjects has been acquired
with sagittal 1mm iso :
Width:  230.00 mm (256)
Height:  230.00 mm (256)
Resolution:  1.113 pixels per mm
Pixel size: 0.90x0.90 mm
and these two with coronal iso:
Width:  220.00 mm (256)
Height:  220.00 mm (256)
Resolution:  1.164 pixels per mm
Pixel size: 0.86x0.86 mm

Now I want to use these images in group analyses with Q-dec.
Does Freesurfer Freesurfer automatically reformat/reconstruct the T1 images
independent of their acquisition protocol? OR Do I need to reformat the
images before running recon-all and then use in the Qdec? If so, which
program do you recommend to use?

Best regards,
Amirhossein Manzouri
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Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2015-07-16 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Amirhossein

we will reformat them all to 1mm iso during recon-all. Hopefully those 
differences are small enough not to cause a bias.


cheers
Bruce


On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, 
amirhossein manzouri wrote:



Hi FS,
MR images of two of my subjects in a group have been acquired with different
T1 protocol from the rest. All the subjects has been acquired with sagittal
1mm iso :
Width:  230.00 mm (256)
Height:  230.00 mm (256)
Resolution:  1.113 pixels per mm
Pixel size: 0.90x0.90 mm
and these two with coronal iso:
Width:  220.00 mm (256)
Height:  220.00 mm (256)
Resolution:  1.164 pixels per mm
Pixel size: 0.86x0.86 mm

Now I want to use these images in group analyses with Q-dec.
Does Freesurfer Freesurfer automatically reformat/reconstruct the T1 images
independent of their acquisition protocol? OR Do I need to reformat the
images before running recon-all and then use in the Qdec? If so, which
program do you recommend to use?

Best regards,
Amirhossein Manzouri 

 


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[Freesurfer] tracula reinit failure filled my hard drive

2015-07-16 Thread Peggy Skelly
Hi,

I'm using freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0 and the latest version
of tracula (downloaded Sept 2014). I was running 'trac-all -prior -c
mydmrircfile.txt' with reinit=1 on a few tracts that initially
reconstructed to look like single voxels. The log file indicated there was
difficulty converging on a solution:

INFO: Distances between consecutive points are 12 12 13 14
INFO: Selected control points in test subject's space are
 161 100 154
 163 104 142
 159 105 130
 159 101 117
 160 91 107
INFO: Distances between consecutive points in test subject's space are 13
13 14 14
WARN: Could not find satisfactory control point fit - try 1435
Finding center streamline
INFO: Step is 3 voxels
WARN: Turning off deviation check for center streamline
INFO: Step is 3 voxels
WARN: Turning off FA check for center streamline
INFO: Step is 3 voxels
WARN: Turning off overlap check for center streamline
INFO: Step is 3 voxels
WARN: Turning off overlap check for center streamline


The rest of the 50 GB file is the same last 2 Info and Warn lines. I was
also sending the terminal output to a log file. So, it too contains 50GB of
Info and Warn lines. It wasn't a very large hard drive to start with, but
this did end up leaving the drive with 0 bytes of free space, which also
caused the processes trying to write to the disk at the time to eventually
crash (after reporting there is no space left on device, many times).

The tracts in question probably won't reconstruct well. But if you have
time for a feature request, maybe you could detect that it hasn't or won't
converge at this point?

Thanks,
Peggy
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Re: [Freesurfer] where to start recon-all after edits

2015-07-16 Thread prasser
Hi,

If the surfaces are 'done' and we update/edit the the aseg.mgz with 
recon-all -surfsegedit 
and then run recon-all -autorecon2-cp -autorecon3
to update the .stats, this also creates new wm and pial surfaces that may be 
different to those used for -surfsegedit. Is that right?


As another alternative, could we run say, recon-all -autorecon2-cp_ 
-autorecon3_ 
that have 
set DoWhiteSurfs = 0;
set DoPialSurfs  = 0;


so that new surfaces are not created and avoid needing to recheck the wm/pial 
surfaces (as they were previously considered done) as well as being the same as 
those used for the -surfsegedit.


Looking forward to a reply, thanks,


P




 On Mon, 18 May 2015 16:27:31 -0700 prasser lt;pras...@zoho.comgt; wrote 
 

Hi,

This is a repost, hope someone can please comment?


Thanks.


 On Wed, 06 May 2015 00:07:17 -0700 prasser lt;pras...@zoho.comgt; wrote 
 

Thanks Martin. The concern I have with using -autorecon2-cp -autorecon3 after 
-surfsegedit is that, new surfaces are created during -autorecon2-cp 
-autorecon3 so that aseg and the surfaces are always out of step with each 
other. 
Any suggestions on how I could test the validity of the method described here 
as an alternative: 
recon-all -surfsegedit  
then edit aseg if needed and then: 
recon-all -aparc2aseg -segstats -wmparc 





 On Tue, 05 May 2015 07:09:48 -0700 Martin Reuter 
lt;mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edugt; wrote  

Yes, if this is in the long, you also need to add the -long …. stuff

Martin

On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:46 AM, prasser lt;pras...@zoho.comgt; wrote:

Thanks for your response, not sure if I've quite got it yet.


So, after the surfaces are done and we update/edit the the aseg.mgz with say,


recon-all -surfsegedit 


we need to re-run 


recon-all -autorecon2-cp -autorecon3







 On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 06:45:00 -0700 Bruce Fischl 
lt;fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edugt; wrote  

I would think autorecon2-cp autorecon3 would be fine, but maybe Martin can 
comment? 
 
On Wed, 22 Apr 2015, prasser 
wrote: 
 
gt; Repost.Thanks. 
gt; 
gt; 
gt;  On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 16:35:29 -0700 lt;pras...@zoho.comgt; wrote 
 
gt; 
gt; Thank you again for your reply. 
gt; 
gt; For editing aseg.mgz, as mentioned in 
gt; 
gt; 
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/TkMeditGuide/TkMeditWorkingWithData/FreeviewSegme
 
gt; ntations 
gt; 
gt; it does suggest using -autorecon2-noaseg, but from what I can see this 
does not 
gt; update the aparc+aseg.mgz and associated .stats etc is that correct? 
Doesn't 
gt; this command (as does -autorecon3) also re-create surfaces that would need 
to be 
gt; re-checked and re-edited if needed? 
gt; 
gt; Also, I think FS5.1 does not have the -autorecon2-noaseg flag. 
gt; 
gt; As an alternative, with completed wm/pial boundaries could we run  
gt; 
gt; recon-all -surfsegedit,  
gt; 
gt; then we would edit aseg as needed and then: 
gt; 
gt; recon-all -aparc2aseg -segstats -wmparc 
gt; 
gt; This will not change any surfaces but would update aseg.stats 
gt; aparc.a2009s+aseg.mgz wmparc.mgz wmparc.stats etc 
gt; 
gt; P  
gt; 
gt; 
gt;  On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 13:42:49 -0700 Martin 
gt; Reuterlt;mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edugt; wrote  
gt; Hi 
gt; 
gt; so take a look at 
gt; https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/TroubleshootingData 
gt; where the entry points are described ( for brainmask and finalsurfs 
gt; -autorecon-pial should be OK, for aseg it says to use 
gt; 
gt; -autorecon2-noaseg ) 
gt; Also this page 
gt; https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/OtherUsefulFlags 
gt; has details on the steps. 
gt; 
gt; Best, Martin 
gt; 
gt; 
gt; 
gt; On 04/20/2015 03:21 PM, Martin Reuter wrote: 
gt; 
gt; usually edits to surfaces should not be required in the long. The 
gt; surfaces there get initialized from the base, so you need to make 
gt; sure the base surface is as accurate as possible. Several edits also 
gt; get transferred automatically from the cross sectional runs. See 
gt; this 
gt; http://freesurfer.net/fswiki/LongitudinalEdits  
gt; for a description of the different edits, and where they should be 
gt; done. 
gt; 
gt; About where to restart after making the edits, everything should be 
gt; done the same way as in the regular (cross sectional) processing. 
gt; So you specifically ask about: 
gt; - brainmask edits 
gt; - brainfinalsurf edits 
gt; - and manual aseg edits. 
gt; 
gt; I just looked at the description of those regular edits 
gt; http://freesurfer.net/fswiki/Edits 
gt; but sadly there it does not say where to start re-run either. I'll 
gt; try to find out and update that soon. 
gt; 
gt; I hope someone with editing experience can chime in and tell us. (I 
gt; changed the subject, so that it get's read). 
gt; 
gt; Cheers, Martin 
gt; 
gt; On 04/20/2015 09:44 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote: 
gt; 
gt; cheers 
gt; Bruce 
gt; 
gt; 
gt; On Mon, 20 Apr 2015, prasser wrote: 
gt; 
gt; Dear All, 
gt; I wanted to check that corrections to a Long pial 
gt; 

[Freesurfer] mri_vol2vol

2015-07-16 Thread Rodriguez-Thompson, Anais
Hi Freesurfer experts,

We are analyzing data for a simultaneous PET-MRI study, and are having trouble 
registering individual subject BPnd maps to fsaverage space. I attached a photo 
of a post-registration subject (the left side is cut off). I had previously 
registered each individual BPnd volume map to the subject's volume space using 
bbregister (naming the reg file register{subject}.dat), and then transformed 
them into a new volume file using the mri_vol2vol command, and referencing the 
file generated by bbregister.  

This is the command I used:

mri_vol2vol --mov 
$SUBJECTS_DIR/NNC_PMOD_LoganRef_BPnd/fs_NNC112_0045_RBV_MC_s10v3_LoganRef_BPnd.nii
 (**this is the original volume file**) --fstarg --reg register0045.dat --o 
$SUBJECTS_DIR/NNC_PMOD_LoganRef_BPnd/fs_NNC112_0045_RBV_MC_s10v3_LoganRef_BPnd_reg.nii

When I visualize this file using tkmedit, the map looks fine (and is not cut 
off). 

However, after transforming this file into fsaverage space, it becomes cut off. 

First I copied each individual volume file into each subject's mri folder. Then 
I used this command to transform the individual files into mni305 space:

mri_vol2vol --mov fs_NNC112_0045_RBV_MC_s10v3_LoganRef_BPnd_reg.nii --targ 
$FREESURFER_HOME/average/mni305.cor.subfov2.mgz --xfm transforms/talairach.xfm 
--o fs_NNC112_0045_RBV_MC_s10v3_LoganRef_BPnd_reg_mni305.subfov2.mgz

Do you know why some of the volume maps are being cut off after transforming 
them into fsaverage space?

Thanks for your help,
Anais


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[Freesurfer] QA measures

2015-07-16 Thread zalewk
Dear Freesurfer Team,

We would like to have a Q/A measure (or two) that would give us indication of 
how well your software worked on each of our data
sets.   Obviously some image sets will be noisier than others for a variety of 
reasons.  Could you point us towards what
options we may have for extracting such a measure from your processing 
pipeline?  We were playing around with QAtools but
wanted to understand if there is a systematic computation of say a handful of 
variables that would give us a global
representation of how well things worked for each case we run? Something that 
we could compare across our patients and even
across data sets?

Best, 
KZ


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