[FRIAM] Fwd: Arrow's Impossibility Theorem

2007-03-27 Thread Owen Densmore
Sorry for the (old) repeat, but Arrow's Impossibility Theorem came up  
at last Friam, so I thought I'd resend the past post.

The conversation relating to AIT included noting that the US two  
party scheme does not escape the issue, due to the primaries  
basically being a tournament run off amongst 3 or more candidates,  
and that the parties themselves are built from several coalitions,  
thus are greater than a 2-choice vote/game.

One thought I had on the matter was:
   - Let everyone vote in both primaries
   - Hold all primaries on the same day

BTW: Since this was written, Robert Holmes discussed with several of  
us one of the fair voting schemes in the UK.  I forget the details,  
but the aim was to insure the individual voters maximized their input  
into the vote.  Robert -- do you know where that scheme fits into AIT?

I would like to add that AIT is germane to ABM: may of the models  
have agents voting amongst each other for access to resources, and  
similarly, voting within themselves for behavior rules, often with  
knowledge of the community's preferences.  Both are within AIT, I'd  
guess.

We may want to put our heads together at an upcoming wedtech to see  
if we understand this, and its impact on our work.

 -- Owen


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 From: Owen Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: December 18, 2003 10:20:05 AM MST
 To: The Friday Morning Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com
 Subject: [FRIAM] Arrow's Impossibility Theorem
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 During the last Friam, we got talking about voting and Arrow's  
 Impossibility Theorem came up.  It basically discusses anomalies in  
 voting when there are more than two choices being voted upon.

 The result depends strongly on how the votes are tallied.  So for  
 example, in our last election, due to having three candidates, we  
 entered the Arrow regime.  But spoilers like Ralph are not the  
 only weirdness.

 The html references below have interesting examples, and the pdf  
 reference is a paper by SFI's John Geanakoplos who gave a public  
 lecture last year.

 Fair voting schemes are getting some air-time now a-days.  There  
 are several forms, but the most popular I think is that you  
 basically rank your candidates in order of preference, the top- 
 most being your current vote. There are several run-offs which  
 eliminate the poorest performer and let you vote again, now with  
 the highest of your ranks still available.  This insures you always  
 have a vote if you want one.  This would have won the election here  
 for Gore, for example, presuming the Nader votes would favor Gore.

 Various web pages with examples:
   http://www.udel.edu/johnmack/frec444/444voting.html
   https://econ.gsia.cmu.edu/Freshman_Seminar/notes_on_arrow.htm
   http://www.personal.psu.edu/staff/m/j/mjd1/ 
 arrowimpossibilitytheorem.htm
   http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/arrow.htm
 Three proofs by John Geanakoplos
   http://cowles.econ.yale.edu/P/cd/d11a/d1123-r.pdf

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