Re: [FRIAM] Delicious Alternative

2011-10-11 Thread siddharth
So does Firefox - see
Synchttp://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/what-firefox-sync

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chrome lets you synchronize browser-based bookmarks across computers.

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 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Nicholas Thompson 
 nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Thanks Owen.  Since I use only firefox and only one computer, I can see
 why I have never felt the need..  

 ** **

 Whew!

 ** **

 Nick 

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 Behalf Of *Owen Densmore
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2011 9:56 AM

 *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
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 ** **

 I'm using pinboard, and just added the archive feature that keeps a copy
 of your bookmarked pages.

 ** **

 Nick: this lets you search your bookmarks, sorta like your own personal
 google on the pages you've shown interest in the past.  Also: the browsers
 have plugins which make it easy to add a widget that quickly add the
 current page you are looking at to your cloud bookmarks.  And if you've
 selected any data on that page, it becomes a note, also for searching.*
 ***

 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote:*
 ***

 In a browser you can store only a small number of bookmarks, and only on
 one computer. As Joshua said, if you use multiple computers or multiple
 browsers then a social bookmark services is useful. Social bookmark services
 are available from any computer, and offer functionalities like tagging.
 Tags are useful to find bookmarks and to create taxonomies or folksonomies.
 You can also see what other people in your network have bookmarked.

 So how many of you use pinboard, and how many use diigo? Hands up, please
 :-)

 -J.

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 Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:58 PM


 Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Delicious Alternative

 

 Robert, and others,

 Another one of those naïve questions that drive you guys nuts:

 Why would I want a book marking service beyond what is provided by my
 browser?  [firefox] Not a rhetorical question.


 

 
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Re: [FRIAM] [sfx: Discuss] Lessig OccupyBoston

2011-10-11 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
But there is a real weirdness about many of the protesters. Captured very well
with this image:

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS-Evil-Corporations.jpg

It's as if these people know what they are fighting, but have no clue how to
fight it. Ghandi got people to hand weave clothes and to march to the sea to
make salt. He knew what the score was. During the fights over racism in the US,
people who were upset about racist rules regarding bus riding refused to ride
the bus! They new they could force the bus company to comply or go bankrupt...
and it worked. In contrast, these people are protesting the same things they
are clearly patronizing. As Owen points out: Down with the evil corporation!
they send out on Twitter, with a tie in to their Facebook or Google+ page,
featuring a link to a Youtube video that will be covered with Toyota ads,
uploaded from their Motorola phone, over the ATT network, in the hopes that I
will access it over my Comcast broadband from my Dell. Seriously, you get the
impression that if Coca Cola offered corporate sponsorship in the form of
bottled water, soda, sun shades, and logo-covered out houses, it would be a
done deal.  

I'm not against the protest. This country has serious issues to work out, and
many of the protesters scattered points are valid. But there are some simple
steps to fighting the battle that are being missed. If you want to hurt the
evil corporations with their super-rich owners... stop giving them your money.
Technologically, I thought some of the most interesting things about the Arab
spring were all the creative ways protesters circumvented popular,
corporate-run communication channels (in their case because the government shut
down access). Surely it would be possible to do the same here if people really
wanted to make a principled stand. 

Eric



On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 12:40 PM, Paul Paryski ppary...@aol.com wrote:
The Occupy/AE phenomenon might be an excellent example of emergence?  An
Occupy ABM?  Clearly any mass protect movement will be chaotic with many
agendas finding expression. As is the case in Europe where Occupy is receiving
large press coverage, the main motivation is that the very rich Wall Street
gang largely caused the economic crisis and it is the poor and middle class who
must pay the bill while the super rich, corporations and the financial sector
get bailout $$ and no real reg reform.   I hope some of you will participate in
Santa Fe's Occupy protest at the Roundhouse on Saturday.

cheers, Paul


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Subject: [sfx: Discuss] Lessig  OccupyBoston



Larry Lessig is one of the more interesting twitter feeds:




a class=user title= style=color: rgb(102, 102, 102); text-decoration:
none; font-size: 9pt; font-weight: bold; font-family: Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif; background-color: rgba(0, 72, 255, 0.148438);  href=Lessig/a

The Harvard Tea Party students joined the a style=color: rgb(102, 102, 85);
text-decoration: none;  href=#OccupyBoston/a march yesterday. a
target= href=http://t.co/aKMkU6Ji; style=color: rgb(102, 102, 85);
text-decoration: none;  onclick=window.open('http://t.co/aKMkU6Ji');return
false;http://t.co/aKMkU6Ji/aa style=color: rgb(102, 102, 85);
text-decoration: none;  href=#criticallyimportantfirststeps/a a
style=color: rgb(102, 102, 85); text-decoration: none; 
href=#rootstrikers/a







I'm surprised just how intense the whole American Spring has become.  I don't
watch TV news shows, but my impression is that there is not much media
coverage.  The AS is hard to classify and there are many elements so that I
think it has caught the media off guard.  And naturally it is not in their
interest, or at least so they think.





But AS is busting out all over: AmericansElect, the Free The Net efforts,
Occupy(fill in the blanks), and more.





One interesting part of all this is that for a long time I didn't get
social media.  Now seeing it in action is fascinating:


Twitter: is the dynamic info stream, pointing to

Facebook: which acts as an aggregator. 


YouTube: which acts as near-live video feeds

Facebook is being rivaled, I think, with other blogs/sites/G+, but for now it
seems to be where the tweets point.





I wonder if a different/augmented aggregator could be mashed up from Twitter
 Facebook/G+  YouTube to build Reed's Law sub-nets, or simply machine
learning based classifiers.





After seeing all this (Especially the Tea Party joining in the OccupyBoston
movement) I'm amazed the government hasn't closed it down.  I suppose they'll
just subvert it.





Do follow Lessig, it's often fascinating.





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Re: [FRIAM] Delicious Alternative

2011-10-11 Thread Owen Densmore
Pinboard lists other sites: http://pinboard.in/resources/#alternatives

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Re: [FRIAM] Lessig OccupyBoston

2011-10-11 Thread glen
ERIC P. CHARLES wrote circa 11-10-11 10:35 AM:
 If
 you want to hurt the evil corporations with their super-rich owners...
 stop giving them your money. Technologically, I thought some of the most
 interesting things about the Arab spring were all the creative ways
 protesters circumvented popular, corporate-run communication channels
 (in their case because the government shut down access). Surely it would
 be possible to do the same here if people really wanted to make a
 principled stand.

And on that note, I've finally dumped my Mastercard for Discover in
protest of MC's refusal to allow payments to Wikileaks.  I've switched
from T-Mobile to Cricket in the wake of T-Mobile's agreeing to be
acquired by ATT.  I'm moving my personal funds out of all banks and into
credit unions, getting rid of my Visa debit card in the process.  Etc.
[sigh] I'm convinced my actions will have zero effect.  I'm trading one
brand for another in most cases.  The point being that it's very
difficult to take a principled stand.

Anecdote: Awhile back, Renee' discovered she liked organic milk better
than ... what? ... regular milk?  pesticide-, hormone-laden, produce
from exploited, tortured animals?  Anyway, I also have a friend who is
convinced raw milk is much more healthy.  So, I'd been thinking about
milk for awhile.  (which is a bit gross for me... milk is just nasty,
almost as bad as mushrooms.)  In order to help her make her decisions
and try to figure out why some milk tastes better and lasts longer in
the fridge, I began trying to figure out where the actual milk comes
from for any given brand.  Of course, organic milk isn't any better
than any other type of milk because the label organic has been taken
over by shadowy networks of multinational corporations with armies of
marketing, scitech, and legal operatives ensconced in every institution.
(Although this site helps:
http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/index.html)

I have similar anecdotes about ground beef, pre- and post-manufactured
sheds, portable radar speed signs, and commercial real estate.

-- 
glen


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Re: [FRIAM] Lessig OccupyBoston

2011-10-11 Thread Owen Densmore
One approach to Glen/Eric's observations is to take small steps that
actually help you too.

I'm having a terrible time with cellular phones.  I want a truly mobile
phone which implies GSM, not the weird non-standard american technologies.
 But ATT sucks and TMobile appears to be going out of business (Deutsche
Telekom, who owns TMobile wants to pull out of the US market.)

So I started looking into other alternatives and found a list of all
carriers in the US (Cricket is one of them, for example)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers

But I then stumbled into the MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operator) idea:
companies who buy wholesale quantities of cellular services from the big
guys and resell it to you for a reasonable price and personal service.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_MVNO

I'm considering one of these.  The upside is that you can completely avoid
contracts.  You can also just buy the phone you want rather than having to
use whatever the telco wants you to use.  Yes this appears to be expensive,
but buying an unlocked phone easily pays for itself within the life of the
phone.

The main point is that steps towards independence can be made reasonably.
 One of the MVNO's for example specializes in supporting green energy.
 They're sorta micro industries that use the big guys tech but match your
needs better.

I hope we see a lot more like the MVNOs in other areas like credit cards,
paypal alternatives, and so on.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] Lessig OccupyBoston

2011-10-11 Thread Steve Smith

A simple corollary question might be:

Why don't we find coop style services to compete with the 
multi-opoloies?   The main thing I know of in this nature is the Credit 
Union.  Are these truly regulated out of possibility by the 
lobby-interests?  Or are we just too lazy?  Or is it too hard to agree 
to do anything like this without a profit motive?


My candidates:

   Telecom services (esp. cellular)
   Insurance
   Gasoline (yes there are local coops related to the farming industry)
   Car Rental


One approach to Glen/Eric's observations is to take small steps that 
actually help you too.


I'm having a terrible time with cellular phones.  I want a truly 
mobile phone which implies GSM, not the weird non-standard american 
technologies.  But ATT sucks and TMobile appears to be going out of 
business (Deutsche Telekom, who owns TMobile wants to pull out of the 
US market.)


So I started looking into other alternatives and found a list of all 
carriers in the US (Cricket is one of them, for example)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers

But I then stumbled into the MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operator) 
idea: companies who buy wholesale quantities of cellular services from 
the big guys and resell it to you for a reasonable price and personal 
service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_MVNO

I'm considering one of these.  The upside is that you can completely 
avoid contracts.  You can also just buy the phone you want rather than 
having to use whatever the telco wants you to use.  Yes this appears 
to be expensive, but buying an unlocked phone easily pays for itself 
within the life of the phone.


The main point is that steps towards independence can be made 
reasonably.  One of the MVNO's for example specializes in supporting 
green energy.  They're sorta micro industries that use the big guys 
tech but match your needs better.


I hope we see a lot more like the MVNOs in other areas like credit 
cards, paypal alternatives, and so on.


   -- Owen



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Re: [FRIAM] [sfx: Discuss] Lessig OccupyBoston

2011-10-11 Thread Gillian Densmore
I agre that the protestors seem to have quite a few agendas in so far
as corperations go. One the other hand sometimes they do ask some of
the right questions
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=133297080105221set=a.131495456952050.18782.129365397165056type=1ref=nf
ie why is healthcare adequate housing a meeningful and fufilling job a
privlidge?
I have no political science proof but more than one ny times article
has said that they (the coffeparty) from a 2 store view they're mad
about some of the right things. (can't fine the link) did ask why
hasn't Obama and crew adressed the coffe party. After having done some
time with californa. sen. john burton one lesson learned was that when
a constiuancy gets super pissed it's vital to have some sort of
actionable plan inside 24hours or it just gains traction. What was
spooky is that the day I did a blog entery
(http://www.gilsplace.net/blog- and yes it's work friendly) they
posted that 'second bill of rights'  that I linked. Another question
is: is this a generation thing, just something in the US polotics air
about peeple feeling malcontent with US politics? I also agre that if
the coffe party is serius and realy wants to bring the varius entities
to the table they have to provide a realistic do able alternative.
Like say x says: ok your right on 5 areas: what do they plan to tell
those 5(being optopmistic) policy seters? They can't simply say: oh a
economy based on gambling doesn't work. They'll need to say here's our
proposed 10 easy steps to ween off of wallstreet and here's the proof
that it'll work.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:35 AM, ERIC P. CHARLES e...@psu.edu wrote:
 But there is a real weirdness about many of the protesters. Captured very
 well with this image:

 http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS-Evil-Corporations.jpg

 It's as if these people know what they are fighting, but have no clue how to
 fight it. Ghandi got people to hand weave clothes and to march to the sea to
 make salt. He knew what the score was. During the fights over racism in the
 US, people who were upset about racist rules regarding bus riding refused to
 ride the bus! They new they could force the bus company to comply or go
 bankrupt... and it worked. In contrast, these people are protesting the same
 things they are clearly patronizing. As Owen points out: Down with the evil
 corporation! they send out on Twitter, with a tie in to their Facebook or
 Google+ page, featuring a link to a Youtube video that will be covered with
 Toyota ads, uploaded from their Motorola phone, over the ATT network, in
 the hopes that I will access it over my Comcast broadba! nd from my Dell.
 Seriously, you get the impression that if Coca Cola offered corporate
 sponsorship in the form of bottled water, soda, sun shades, and logo-covered
 out houses, it would be a done deal.

 I'm not against the protest. This country has serious issues to work out,
 and many of the protesters scattered points are valid. But there are some
 simple steps to fighting the battle that are being missed. If you want to
 hurt the evil corporations with their super-rich owners... stop giving them
 your money. Technologically, I thought some of the most interesting things
 about the Arab spring were all the creative ways protesters circumvented
 popular, corporate-run communication channels (in their case because the
 government shut down access). Surely it would be possible to do the same
 here if people really wanted to make a principled stand.

 Eric



 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 12:40 PM, Paul Paryski ppary...@aol.com wrote:
 The Occupy/AE phenomenon might be an excellent example of emergence?  An
 Occupy ABM?  Clearly any mass protect movement will be chaotic with many
 agendas finding expression. As is the case in Europe where Occupy is
 receiving large press coverage, the main motivation is that the very rich
 Wall Street gang largely caused the economic crisis and it is the poor and
 middle class who must pay the bill while the super rich, corporations and
 the financial sector get bailout $$ and no real reg reform.   I hope some of
 you will participate in Santa Fe's Occupy protest at the Roundhouse on
 Saturday.
 cheers, Paul


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 From: Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net
 To: Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com; discuss
 disc...@sfcomplex.org
 Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 6:21 am
 Subject: [sfx: Discuss] Lessig  OccupyBoston

 Larry Lessig is one of the more interesting twitter feeds:
 Lessig
 The Harvard Tea Party students joined the #OccupyBoston march
 yesterday. http://t.co/aKMkU6Ji#criticallyimportantfirststeps #rootstrikers
 I'm surprised just how intense the whole American Spring has become.  I
 don't watch TV news shows, but my impression is that there is not much media
 coverage.  The AS is hard to classify and there are many elements so that I
 think it has caught the media off guard.  And naturally it is not in their
 interest, or at least so they think.
 But 

[FRIAM] iClarified - Apple News - Steve Jobs Reveals Why He Always Wore the Turtleneck

2011-10-11 Thread Owen Densmore
From the absolutely-ridiculous dept:
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=17274

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