Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-16 Thread Owen Densmore
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson 
nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Dear Local Friammers, 

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 snip


Thank you for the report, interesting.


 I stipulate that this is not the place for a political discussion and that
 many of you would probably disagree with me vehemently on many matters, so I
 will leave it at that.  As soon as there is a local distribution list or
 equivalent, there will be no need to discuss such matters in this forum, for
 which, I assume, many of you will be grateful.


WTF?  Why *not* talk about things of this nature here?  We've often done so
in the past.


 Back to the discussion of cellphone apps.


Ah, now your talking!  But usually not about apps as far as I recall, more
about core tech and being fucked over by The Man.  CDMA, GSM, 2G, 3G and
more, but appps?  Not much but to congratulate Tyler on his success.


 Nick

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Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.

2011-10-16 Thread Gillian Densmore
Personally I think a open diolague about a broken system at all levels
is a Good Thing. It's even better though when people start proposing
solutions. Kim Sorvig noted that the US economy is basicly run by
gambling-ie investments in Wall Street. I don't have enough game
theory or economics to show why that's a bad thing. I can show that as
far back as Wall Street has existed it's become a increesingly bad
design though.
Speeking of the man- with T-Mobile US future somewhat in doubt i've
been doing some diging and came across something interesting:
http://www.shopstraighttalk.com/
offers for 45USD a plan that includes unlimited data- the downside is
that in newmexico they don't offer droid phones (yet). As much as I
like the idea of going to verizon- how do they get off on charging
50USD for a REQUIRED unlimited Data package-unless you go through the
webstore and get 4g data as a addon package?
I point this out because IF my friends start up gets off the ground
she wants me on bord in some copacity-but that'd meen moving back the
bay. I can't justify paying 95 dollars for cellphone service just
because i'd need directions.
The other interesting one is:
http://www.earthtones.com/
they claim that if a phone isn't offered you can get ahold of them and
try to make arangements. Plus they have midling coverage.
Here's another interesting question: Why does CDMA from verizon have
bad ass coverage compared to T-Mobile that's spoty at best where you
need it? (like roads or hotels.)

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote:


 On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson
 nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Dear Local Friammers,



 snip

 Thank you for the report, interesting.


 I stipulate that this is not the place for a political discussion and that
 many of you would probably disagree with me vehemently on many matters, so I
 will leave it at that.  As soon as there is a local distribution list or
 equivalent, there will be no need to discuss such matters in this forum, for
 which, I assume, many of you will be grateful.

 WTF?  Why *not* talk about things of this nature here?  We've often done so
 in the past.


 Back to the discussion of cellphone apps.

 Ah, now your talking!  But usually not about apps as far as I recall, more
 about core tech and being fucked over by The Man.  CDMA, GSM, 2G, 3G and
 more, but appps?  Not much but to congratulate Tyler on his success.


 Nick

 
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 Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
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[FRIAM] Fwd: 'We Are the 99 Percent' Creators Revealed

2011-10-16 Thread Paul Paryski
The Occupy movement is actually about emergence and complexity.  The Arab 
Spring began with an incident between a woman police officer and a fruit vendor 
in Tunis.


FYI below a bit of what this movement is about


cheers, Paul



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 This is an interview with the creators of the initial blog that started 
OccupyWallStreet.

 

 

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[To see the gallery of '99 percent' photos, go to
http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/ -- moderator]

'We Are the 99 Percent' Creators Revealed

By Adam Weinstein | 
Oct. 7, 2011 3:00 AM PDT
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/we-are-the-99-percent-creators

EXCLUSIVE: MoJo interviews the two activists behind Occupy Wall Street's 
poignant Tumblr sensation.[1]

It began as a simple little idea, just another blog
among millions. The Occupy Wall Street protest was
scheduled to begin on September 17, and launching We Are
the 99 Percent [2] on Tumblr seemed like a good way to
promote it. Its creator had no clue that it would go
viral and become a touchstone for a protest movement
soon to spread nationwide. [3]

This week, Mother Jones tracked down and spoke with the
two activists behind the 99 Percent sensation, whose
identities have remained unknown until now. The blog is
the creation of a tenacious 28-year-old New York
activist named Chris. (He asked that his last name not
be published because he works full time for a small
media outlet.) Chris has also been busy managing
logistics, including food drives, for Occupy Wall Street
in Lower Manhattan-so about two weeks ago, he started
sharing the blog's increasingly demanding curation
duties with a friend in the cause, Brooklyn-based
nonprofit worker and independent media maven Priscilla
Grim.

On August 23, Chris put the idea in motion: Get a bunch
of people to submit their pictures with a hand-written
sign explaining how these harsh financial times have
been affecting them, have them identify themselves as
the '99 percent', and then write 'occupywallst.org' at
the end.

On September 8, the first day he started publishing
submissions, there were five posts. Less than a month
later, the blog was posting nearly 100 pieces a day:
from the 61-year-old [5] who lost her job and moved in
with her kids, to the husband of a college professor [6]
on WIC and Medicaid to support an infant daughter, to
the fiftysomething couple [7] living on tossed-out KFC,
to a bevy of youths pummeled by student debt and too
poor to visit a dentist.

I submitted one of the first photos on the site, and I
chose to obscure my face because I did not want to be
recognized, co-editor Grim told MoJo when we caught up
with her and Chris for interviews on Wednesday. I saw
it as a way to anonymize myself: I am only one of many.

Many of the submissions posted are poignant and
heartbreaking. They have freaked [8] out [9] some
conservatives, but they have also galvanized [10]
progressives, lit a fire under Occupy Wall Street, and
attracted contributors from many walks of life. And
there is a powerful undercurrent that's anything but
gloom and doom. Despite the economic hardships many in
the 99 percent are experiencing, Chris says, it's an
empowering message, letting people know that they are
not alone.

Mother Jones: What is your background, and your role in
the Occupy movement?

Chris: I am 28 years old, college educated, full-time
job, part-time freelance job, and I volunteer to feed
the hungry and needy every Sunday. I live in New York
City. I wear a tie to work, unless it's Friday. I am an
anarchist, though my belief is that anarchism should be
more about building things up than tearing things down.
I am a dedicated pacifist. I drink too much coffee. My
favorite band is Sleater Kinney, and I think their best
album is Dig Me Out, followed closely by One Beat. I've
read Infinite Jest twice, and I'm fully aware of how
pretentious that makes me sound, and I'm really, really
sorry.

Priscilla Grim: I worked for nonprofits for 10 years,
have studied online media in school, and I am currently
in grad school studying information science. I helped to
organize online actions pre-MoveOn. I love serving
people and improving the world, firstly for my kid and
secondly for the rest of us. I worked in a lot of
different realms [11] and know how to build
organizations and make them sustainable, 

[FRIAM] Fwd: 'We Are the 99 Percent' Creators Revealed

2011-10-16 Thread Paul Paryski
The Occupy movement is actually about emergence and complexity.  The Arab 
Spring began with an incident between a woman police officer and a fruit vendor 
in Tunis.


FYI below a bit of what this movement is about


cheers, Paul



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 This is an interview with the creators of the initial blog that started 
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[To see the gallery of '99 percent' photos, go to
http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/ -- moderator]

'We Are the 99 Percent' Creators Revealed

By Adam Weinstein | 
Oct. 7, 2011 3:00 AM PDT
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/we-are-the-99-percent-creators

EXCLUSIVE: MoJo interviews the two activists behind Occupy Wall Street's 
poignant Tumblr sensation.[1]

It began as a simple little idea, just another blog
among millions. The Occupy Wall Street protest was
scheduled to begin on September 17, and launching We Are
the 99 Percent [2] on Tumblr seemed like a good way to
promote it. Its creator had no clue that it would go
viral and become a touchstone for a protest movement
soon to spread nationwide. [3]

This week, Mother Jones tracked down and spoke with the
two activists behind the 99 Percent sensation, whose
identities have remained unknown until now. The blog is
the creation of a tenacious 28-year-old New York
activist named Chris. (He asked that his last name not
be published because he works full time for a small
media outlet.) Chris has also been busy managing
logistics, including food drives, for Occupy Wall Street
in Lower Manhattan-so about two weeks ago, he started
sharing the blog's increasingly demanding curation
duties with a friend in the cause, Brooklyn-based
nonprofit worker and independent media maven Priscilla
Grim.

On August 23, Chris put the idea in motion: Get a bunch
of people to submit their pictures with a hand-written
sign explaining how these harsh financial times have
been affecting them, have them identify themselves as
the '99 percent', and then write 'occupywallst.org' at
the end.

On September 8, the first day he started publishing
submissions, there were five posts. Less than a month
later, the blog was posting nearly 100 pieces a day:
from the 61-year-old [5] who lost her job and moved in
with her kids, to the husband of a college professor [6]
on WIC and Medicaid to support an infant daughter, to
the fiftysomething couple [7] living on tossed-out KFC,
to a bevy of youths pummeled by student debt and too
poor to visit a dentist.

I submitted one of the first photos on the site, and I
chose to obscure my face because I did not want to be
recognized, co-editor Grim told MoJo when we caught up
with her and Chris for interviews on Wednesday. I saw
it as a way to anonymize myself: I am only one of many.

Many of the submissions posted are poignant and
heartbreaking. They have freaked [8] out [9] some
conservatives, but they have also galvanized [10]
progressives, lit a fire under Occupy Wall Street, and
attracted contributors from many walks of life. And
there is a powerful undercurrent that's anything but
gloom and doom. Despite the economic hardships many in
the 99 percent are experiencing, Chris says, it's an
empowering message, letting people know that they are
not alone.

Mother Jones: What is your background, and your role in
the Occupy movement?

Chris: I am 28 years old, college educated, full-time
job, part-time freelance job, and I volunteer to feed
the hungry and needy every Sunday. I live in New York
City. I wear a tie to work, unless it's Friday. I am an
anarchist, though my belief is that anarchism should be
more about building things up than tearing things down.
I am a dedicated pacifist. I drink too much coffee. My
favorite band is Sleater Kinney, and I think their best
album is Dig Me Out, followed closely by One Beat. I've
read Infinite Jest twice, and I'm fully aware of how
pretentious that makes me sound, and I'm really, really
sorry.

Priscilla Grim: I worked for nonprofits for 10 years,
have studied online media in school, and I am currently
in grad school studying information science. I helped to
organize online actions pre-MoveOn. I love serving
people and improving the world, firstly for my kid and
secondly for the rest of us. I worked in a lot of
different realms [11] and know how to build
organizations and make them sustainable, 

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: 'We Are the 99 Percent' Creators Revealed

2011-10-16 Thread Douglas Roberts
And the fruit vendor had an overripe peach, which had a fruit fly on it,
which became startled, and flapped it's wings.

Emergent, baby...

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Paul Paryski ppary...@aol.com wrote:

 The Occupy movement is actually about emergence and complexity.  The Arab
 Spring began with an incident between a woman police officer and a fruit
 vendor in Tunis.

  FYI below a bit of what this movement is about

  cheers, Paul


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  [To see the gallery of '99 percent' photos, go 
 tohttp://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/ -- moderator]

 'We Are the 99 Percent' Creators Revealed

 By Adam Weinstein |
 Oct. 7, 2011 3:00 AM 
 PDThttp://motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/we-are-the-99-percent-creators

 EXCLUSIVE: MoJo interviews the two activists behind Occupy Wall Street's
 poignant Tumblr sensation.[1]

 It began as a simple little idea, just another blog
 among millions. The Occupy Wall Street protest was
 scheduled to begin on September 17, and launching We Are
 the 99 Percent [2] on Tumblr seemed like a good way to
 promote it. Its creator had no clue that it would go
 viral and become a touchstone for a protest movement
 soon to spread nationwide. [3]

 This week, Mother Jones tracked down and spoke with the
 two activists behind the 99 Percent sensation, whose
 identities have remained unknown until now. The blog is
 the creation of a tenacious 28-year-old New York
 activist named Chris. (He asked that his last name not
 be published because he works full time for a small
 media outlet.) Chris has also been busy managing
 logistics, including food drives, for Occupy Wall Street
 in Lower Manhattan-so about two weeks ago, he started
 sharing the blog's increasingly demanding curation
 duties with a friend in the cause, Brooklyn-based
 nonprofit worker and independent media maven Priscilla
 Grim.

 On August 23, Chris put the idea in motion: Get a bunch
 of people to submit their pictures with a hand-written
 sign explaining how these harsh financial times have
 been affecting them, have them identify themselves as
 the '99 percent', and then write 'occupywallst.org' at
 the end.

 On September 8, the first day he started publishing
 submissions, there were five posts. Less than a month
 later, the blog was posting nearly 100 pieces a day:
 from the 61-year-old [5] who lost her job and moved in
 with her kids, to the husband of a college professor [6]
 on WIC and Medicaid to support an infant daughter, to
 the fiftysomething couple [7] living on tossed-out KFC,
 to a bevy of youths pummeled by student debt and too
 poor to visit a dentist.

 I submitted one of the first photos on the site, and I
 chose to obscure my face because I did not want to be
 recognized, co-editor Grim told MoJo when we caught up
 with her and Chris for interviews on Wednesday. I saw
 it as a way to anonymize myself: I am only one of many.

 Many of the submissions posted are poignant and
 heartbreaking. They have freaked [8] out [9] some
 conservatives, but they have also galvanized [10]
 progressives, lit a fire under Occupy Wall Street, and
 attracted contributors from many walks of life. And
 there is a powerful undercurrent that's anything but
 gloom and doom. Despite the economic hardships many in
 the 99 percent are experiencing, Chris says, it's an
 empowering message, letting people know that they are
 not alone.

 Mother Jones: What is your background, and your role in
 the Occupy movement?

 Chris: I am 28 years old, college educated, full-time
 job, part-time freelance job, and I volunteer to feed
 the hungry and needy every Sunday. I live in New York
 City. I wear a tie to work, unless it's Friday. I am an
 anarchist, though my belief is that anarchism should be
 more about building things up than tearing things down.
 I am a dedicated pacifist. I drink too much coffee. My
 favorite band is Sleater Kinney, and I think their best
 album is Dig Me Out, followed closely by One Beat. I've
 read Infinite Jest twice, and I'm fully aware of how
 pretentious that makes me sound, and I'm really, really
 sorry.

 Priscilla Grim: I worked for nonprofits for 10 years,
 have studied online media in school, and I am currently
 in 

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[FRIAM] Human Farming - Society cannot be rationally understood until it is seen for what it is -- a series of farms where human farmers own and benefit from human livestock...: Rich Murray 2011.10.16

2011-10-16 Thread Rich Murray
Human Farming - Society cannot be rationally understood until it is
seen for what it is -- a series of farms where human farmers own and
benefit from human livestock...: Rich Murray 2011.10.16

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