Re: [FRIAM] an Android and a 5 lobe screwdriver?
Steve, one thing you could try, absent the proprietary screwdriver, is to use your hair dryer on low setting to gently heat the phone and drive the water out. Ok, maybe you should use Suzane's hair dryer. Or, you could put the phone in a bag of (uncooked) rice for three days, which will draw the water out. --Doug On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: I have a nexus one you can borrow. Used to be registered on T-Mobile. Perfect... somehow I thought you might have a stash of those things! I'd call you tomorrow to rendezvous but all my phone numbers got wet! Oh wait! Right there in your signature line! Tx On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: I dropped my iPhone in my pond while cleaning the pump filter... fished it out within 10 secs, it was still on, running fine, no obvious intrusion of water... but just to be safe I powered it off... driving into town minutes later, I noticed it had powered back up... so I powered it down (again)... and it immediately powered/booted itself *again*! Water shorting the power button? I went ahead and tried it's phone function and the speaker was not working... but bluetooth did... then I sent a text... then I powered it off again... and within seconds, it was booting itself back up! Half an hour later it shut itself down and hasn't been back up since. I put it in a bag of rice overnight (conventional wisdom for drying things without an official dessicant)... still dead. Now I need a 5-lobe screwdriver to defeat Apple's insistence that I not open the case without their lawyers present... I suppose they would rather I sent it to them so they can say !not under warranty, water alert! keep it for weeks and charge me an arm and a leg to clean any fouled contacts, maybe replace the battery, and then maybe decide I need a new logic board. So anyone have a 5 lobe (tiny, tiny, miniscule, tiny) screwdriver for this purpose that they can loan me? How about a GSM android phone to borrow while I order up a screwdriver and battery and a bucket of luck? Or advice on what (used) model to pick up on Craigslist? Anyone have any experience with the Cocoa? It is apparently a dual SIM... Are GSM Androids unlocked by default (seems reasonable.. but... ?)... is it an easy unlock? I knew I needed an OtterBox! - Steve FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- --- -. . ..-. .. ... - .-- --- ..-. .. ... stephen.gue...@redfish.com stephen.gue...@redfish.com office: 505.995.0206 mobile: 505.577.5828 redfish.com | simtable.com | sfcomplex.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] where to get adobe cheep?
Hi all SFCC in it's devign wisdome is teaching Adobe CS products. Suficed to say It'd be handy to have at home-for eas of completing classes-and might be handy later. However I am wincing at the 600 Adobe is asking for there latest software sweet (CS6) Any ideas where to get it a bit less? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] where to get adobe cheep?
Gil - Hi all SFCC in it's devign wisdome is teaching Adobe CS products. Suficed to say It'd be handy to have at home-for eas of completing classes-and might be handy later. However I am wincing at the 600 Adobe is asking for there latest software sweet (CS6) Any ideas where to get it a bit less? Short of a bootleg/pirate copy or someone generous who isn't using theirs I think the price is as good as it gets. For the rest of us (non-educational), the price is closer to $3000, depending on details? Wait until you check out the AutoDesk suite! They do offer CS6 in bits and pieces for educational as well, I think... so getting one or two tools is a possible way to save? The good news is that CS6 is a totally professional tool suite and when mastered, you will be prepared to play in the big leagues, unhampered by ad-hoc or limited tools. It's a tough paradox. - Steve FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] an Android and a 5 lobe screwdriver?
I've got the tools I used to fix my screen .. it has a pentalobe as I think they're called. Also the head magnifier etc. -- Owen On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: I dropped my iPhone in my pond while cleaning the pump filter... fished it out within 10 secs, it was still on, running fine, no obvious intrusion of water... but just to be safe I powered it off... driving into town minutes later, I noticed it had powered back up... so I powered it down (again)... and it immediately powered/booted itself *again*! Water shorting the power button? I went ahead and tried it's phone function and the speaker was not working... but bluetooth did... then I sent a text... then I powered it off again... and within seconds, it was booting itself back up! Half an hour later it shut itself down and hasn't been back up since. I put it in a bag of rice overnight (conventional wisdom for drying things without an official dessicant)... still dead. Now I need a 5-lobe screwdriver to defeat Apple's insistence that I not open the case without their lawyers present... I suppose they would rather I sent it to them so they can say !not under warranty, water alert! keep it for weeks and charge me an arm and a leg to clean any fouled contacts, maybe replace the battery, and then maybe decide I need a new logic board. So anyone have a 5 lobe (tiny, tiny, miniscule, tiny) screwdriver for this purpose that they can loan me? How about a GSM android phone to borrow while I order up a screwdriver and battery and a bucket of luck? Or advice on what (used) model to pick up on Craigslist? Anyone have any experience with the Cocoa? It is apparently a dual SIM... Are GSM Androids unlocked by default (seems reasonable.. but... ?)... is it an easy unlock? I knew I needed an OtterBox! - Steve ==**== FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] where to get adobe cheep?
Adobe does offer educator and student prices, which are relatively affordable. But about a year ago I ponied up $140 for Acrobat X, via an educational reseller, and never could get the damn thing installed because of the Adobe Paranoia (trademark pending) in terms of all the often-conflicting security/install hoops one has to jump through. I still have, and use, Acrobat 8 Pro quite happily, but otherwise refuse to pay the price for its products. --tj On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Gil - Hi all SFCC in it's devign wisdome is teaching Adobe CS products. Suficed to say It'd be handy to have at home-for eas of completing classes-and might be handy later. However I am wincing at the 600 Adobe is asking for there latest software sweet (CS6) Any ideas where to get it a bit less? Short of a bootleg/pirate copy or someone generous who isn't using theirs I think the price is as good as it gets. For the rest of us (non-educational), the price is closer to $3000, depending on details? Wait until you check out the AutoDesk suite! They do offer CS6 in bits and pieces for educational as well, I think... so getting one or two tools is a possible way to save? The good news is that CS6 is a totally professional tool suite and when mastered, you will be prepared to play in the big leagues, unhampered by ad-hoc or limited tools. It's a tough paradox. - Steve ==**== FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] where to get adobe cheep?
http://www.gimp.org/windows/ On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: No one has mentioned the GIMP (Gnu Image Manipulation Program) as a free alternative. Functionally equivalent, +/- to Photoshop according to lots of reviews. --Doug On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: Adobe does offer educator and student prices, which are relatively affordable. But about a year ago I ponied up $140 for Acrobat X, via an educational reseller, and never could get the damn thing installed because of the Adobe Paranoia (trademark pending) in terms of all the often-conflicting security/install hoops one has to jump through. I still have, and use, Acrobat 8 Pro quite happily, but otherwise refuse to pay the price for its products. --tj On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Gil - Hi all SFCC in it's devign wisdome is teaching Adobe CS products. Suficed to say It'd be handy to have at home-for eas of completing classes-and might be handy later. However I am wincing at the 600 Adobe is asking for there latest software sweet (CS6) Any ideas where to get it a bit less? Short of a bootleg/pirate copy or someone generous who isn't using theirs I think the price is as good as it gets. For the rest of us (non-educational), the price is closer to $3000, depending on details? Wait until you check out the AutoDesk suite! They do offer CS6 in bits and pieces for educational as well, I think... so getting one or two tools is a possible way to save? The good news is that CS6 is a totally professional tool suite and when mastered, you will be prepared to play in the big leagues, unhampered by ad-hoc or limited tools. It's a tough paradox. - Steve ==**== FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell -- Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] where to get adobe cheep?
No one has mentioned the GIMP (Gnu Image Manipulation Program) as a free alternative. Functionally equivalent, +/- to Photoshop according to lots of reviews. --Doug On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: Adobe does offer educator and student prices, which are relatively affordable. But about a year ago I ponied up $140 for Acrobat X, via an educational reseller, and never could get the damn thing installed because of the Adobe Paranoia (trademark pending) in terms of all the often-conflicting security/install hoops one has to jump through. I still have, and use, Acrobat 8 Pro quite happily, but otherwise refuse to pay the price for its products. --tj On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Gil - Hi all SFCC in it's devign wisdome is teaching Adobe CS products. Suficed to say It'd be handy to have at home-for eas of completing classes-and might be handy later. However I am wincing at the 600 Adobe is asking for there latest software sweet (CS6) Any ideas where to get it a bit less? Short of a bootleg/pirate copy or someone generous who isn't using theirs I think the price is as good as it gets. For the rest of us (non-educational), the price is closer to $3000, depending on details? Wait until you check out the AutoDesk suite! They do offer CS6 in bits and pieces for educational as well, I think... so getting one or two tools is a possible way to save? The good news is that CS6 is a totally professional tool suite and when mastered, you will be prepared to play in the big leagues, unhampered by ad-hoc or limited tools. It's a tough paradox. - Steve ==**== FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] an Android and a 5 lobe screwdriver?
I've got the tools I used to fix my screen .. it has a pentalobe as I think they're called. Also the head magnifier etc. -- Owen Thanks! Between you and Guerin I'm set All Doug offered me was a bag of rice and a hair dryer to cook it with! Do you know he roasts his own coffee beans in a popcorn popper!? Actually, to be fair to Doug (but why?)... I *did* try the bag-O-rice and the (gentle) heat treatment... I think it works best when the device was turned *off* (and stayed off!) immediately. I believe (like to believe?) the intimations of many on the net that operating while wet is as likely to cause corrosion/residue on the contacts from resistance-heating drying as it is to have caused some kind of dead-short. Crack case, disconnect cableage, clean contacts, reassemble, hold breath, look for stoopid tiny screws, push button, viola (or not)! Meanwhile, I'll be happy to be converted to the cult of Android perhaps... the recent news about Apple being 100% outsourced (manufacture) to China and my loyalty to the *design* genius that was Jobs (I read his Bio... not a pretty sight! I met the man several times and knew several who knew him well... not someone to look up to in many ways.) I don't expect Apple to go the way of Sun, Dec, SGI, etc... but I think their glory days are now permanently behind us. Google is still in some kind of ascendency, at least in business and technology if not spiritually. I'm still quite taken in by their ability to *not* focus, or to *focus on everything*! They are a true product of the new millenium for better or worse as is Amazon. I'm *still* creeped out by the (now) classic GoogleZon Epic 2014 spoof commercial/newsbite. It is amazing how well they predicted the GoogleGlut! If we make it past Dec 26 2012 (or whatever) will we make it past 2014? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPIC_2014 http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/ - Steve On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com mailto:sasm...@swcp.com wrote: I dropped my iPhone in my pond while cleaning the pump filter... fished it out within 10 secs, it was still on, running fine, no obvious intrusion of water... but just to be safe I powered it off... driving into town minutes later, I noticed it had powered back up... so I powered it down (again)... and it immediately powered/booted itself *again*! Water shorting the power button? I went ahead and tried it's phone function and the speaker was not working... but bluetooth did... then I sent a text... then I powered it off again... and within seconds, it was booting itself back up! Half an hour later it shut itself down and hasn't been back up since. I put it in a bag of rice overnight (conventional wisdom for drying things without an official dessicant)... still dead. Now I need a 5-lobe screwdriver to defeat Apple's insistence that I not open the case without their lawyers present... I suppose they would rather I sent it to them so they can say !not under warranty, water alert! keep it for weeks and charge me an arm and a leg to clean any fouled contacts, maybe replace the battery, and then maybe decide I need a new logic board. So anyone have a 5 lobe (tiny, tiny, miniscule, tiny) screwdriver for this purpose that they can loan me? How about a GSM android phone to borrow while I order up a screwdriver and battery and a bucket of luck? Or advice on what (used) model to pick up on Craigslist? Anyone have any experience with the Cocoa? It is apparently a dual SIM... Are GSM Androids unlocked by default (seems reasonable.. but... ?)... is it an easy unlock? I knew I needed an OtterBox! - Steve FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] an Android and a 5 lobe screwdriver?
Apple is the next Micro$oft; reason enough for me to stay with Linux, Android, Google. At least until Google turns into the next Micro$oft. I like saying Micro$oft. --Doug On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: I've got the tools I used to fix my screen .. it has a pentalobe as I think they're called. Also the head magnifier etc. -- Owen Thanks! Between you and Guerin I'm set All Doug offered me was a bag of rice and a hair dryer to cook it with! Do you know he roasts his own coffee beans in a popcorn popper!? Actually, to be fair to Doug (but why?)... I *did* try the bag-O-rice and the (gentle) heat treatment... I think it works best when the device was turned *off* (and stayed off!) immediately. I believe (like to believe?) the intimations of many on the net that operating while wet is as likely to cause corrosion/residue on the contacts from resistance-heating drying as it is to have caused some kind of dead-short. Crack case, disconnect cableage, clean contacts, reassemble, hold breath, look for stoopid tiny screws, push button, viola (or not)! Meanwhile, I'll be happy to be converted to the cult of Android perhaps... the recent news about Apple being 100% outsourced (manufacture) to China and my loyalty to the *design* genius that was Jobs (I read his Bio... not a pretty sight! I met the man several times and knew several who knew him well... not someone to look up to in many ways.) I don't expect Apple to go the way of Sun, Dec, SGI, etc... but I think their glory days are now permanently behind us. Google is still in some kind of ascendency, at least in business and technology if not spiritually. I'm still quite taken in by their ability to *not* focus, or to *focus on everything*! They are a true product of the new millenium for better or worse as is Amazon. I'm *still* creeped out by the (now) classic GoogleZon Epic 2014 spoof commercial/newsbite. It is amazing how well they predicted the GoogleGlut! If we make it past Dec 26 2012 (or whatever) will we make it past 2014? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPIC_2014 http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/ - Steve On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: I dropped my iPhone in my pond while cleaning the pump filter... fished it out within 10 secs, it was still on, running fine, no obvious intrusion of water... but just to be safe I powered it off... driving into town minutes later, I noticed it had powered back up... so I powered it down (again)... and it immediately powered/booted itself *again*! Water shorting the power button? I went ahead and tried it's phone function and the speaker was not working... but bluetooth did... then I sent a text... then I powered it off again... and within seconds, it was booting itself back up! Half an hour later it shut itself down and hasn't been back up since. I put it in a bag of rice overnight (conventional wisdom for drying things without an official dessicant)... still dead. Now I need a 5-lobe screwdriver to defeat Apple's insistence that I not open the case without their lawyers present... I suppose they would rather I sent it to them so they can say !not under warranty, water alert! keep it for weeks and charge me an arm and a leg to clean any fouled contacts, maybe replace the battery, and then maybe decide I need a new logic board. So anyone have a 5 lobe (tiny, tiny, miniscule, tiny) screwdriver for this purpose that they can loan me? How about a GSM android phone to borrow while I order up a screwdriver and battery and a bucket of luck? Or advice on what (used) model to pick up on Craigslist? Anyone have any experience with the Cocoa? It is apparently a dual SIM... Are GSM Androids unlocked by default (seems reasonable.. but... ?)... is it an easy unlock? I knew I needed an OtterBox! - Steve FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] where to get adobe cheep?
http://www.gimp.org/windows/ On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net mailto:d...@parrot-farm.net wrote: No one has mentioned the GIMP (Gnu Image Manipulation Program) as a free alternative. Functionally equivalent, +/- to Photoshop according to lots of reviews. --Doug I use GIMP as an alternative to Photoshop *all the time* but Photoshop is the *least* of what I'd want CS6 for... not sure what Gil is working on but I don't know any reasonable open-source alternative for Illustrator or their web design or video effects and editing tools. I understand Gil's irritation that his educational institution sets him up for expensive commercial software... on the other hand, if he's training to work in the field he will almost surely need skills with that specific toolset. The myriad piecewise alternatives are great and anyone worth their salt should learn *those too*! I agree with Tom about the Adobe Paranoia, and I don't use their commercial Acrobat stuff either... I was there when they hammered out their strategies (early 90's) for PDF code-named Carousel to become Acrobat. I was trying to move LANL from a microfiche/film/paper environment to a digital one... and Adobe were very helpful/friendly (for obvious reasons!). The revolution they caused with PostScript was key to many things, but the way they defined and cornered the market with PDF/Acrobat felt almost evil. But then the adults in the same general business (Xerox, IBM, Kodak) were already sold out and corrupt (IMO), Adobe had to get successful first. The efforts afoot with NeWS and NeXT at the time to use PS as the onscreen rendering model was killer... I'm still not sure what really killed all that (Owen, do you know?)... With CS6 going for hundreds (educational) and thousands (commercial), of course they are paranoid! I suspect that very few people outside of North America and Europe pay a penny into Adobe's coffers... I'm sure that market cash all goes to Pirates and Bootleggers and the Strongmen who enforce the rules, egos, and hierarchy that go with illegal activity. I knew Adobe when they were 30 employees on one floor of a building in San Jose... I have to say I'm *glad* they pulled it all together the way they did, their tools are stellar... but also... my cheapskate (information wants to be *free* as in *free beer*) side resents them nearly as much as MicroSnot. But I think of them more like AutoDesk... having recognized a huge niche and worked hard for decades to fill it well (for the most part). But just like international petroleum megacorps, my life is apparently better (for the moment) because of them, but that doesn't mean I don't mistrust them with my future and resent the velvet cuffs they are fashioning for my every appendage. Meanwhile, yes! use GIMP and OpenOffice, and everything else... The megacorps may own the preferred *answer* but they don't own the *question* or the myriad answers *to* the question! Viva la Diversite! Let the broiling froth of innovation and invention emerge us some new answers to old questions and perhaps even spandrel out some new *questions* to the many paradoxes implied by life itself. (over the top yet?) - Steve PS... In regards to my use of spandrel... you can verbize any noun. PPS and as a reward for Doug (and anyone else) for reading the whole diatribe (or cutting to the chase)... I have a fifth of Stranahans (Colorado Distillery) and a coolish (after dark) courtyard to sip it in. It's time again! On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com mailto:t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: Adobe does offer educator and student prices, which are relatively affordable. But about a year ago I ponied up $140 for Acrobat X, via an educational reseller, and never could get the damn thing installed because of the Adobe Paranoia (trademark pending) in terms of all the often-conflicting security/install hoops one has to jump through. I still have, and use, Acrobat 8 Pro quite happily, but otherwise refuse to pay the price for its products. --tj On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com mailto:sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Gil - Hi all SFCC in it's devign wisdome is teaching Adobe CS products. Suficed to say It'd be handy to have at home-for eas of completing classes-and might be handy later. However I am wincing at the 600 Adobe is asking for there latest software sweet (CS6) Any ideas where to get it a bit less? Short of a bootleg/pirate copy or someone generous who isn't using theirs I think the price is as good as it gets. For the rest of us (non-educational), the price is closer
Re: [FRIAM] where to get adobe cheep?
GaDOING! This interesting little nugget right towards the end got my undivided attention. Pick a convenient time we're there! On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: PPS and as a reward for Doug (and anyone else) for reading the whole diatribe (or cutting to the chase)... I have a fifth of Stranahans (Colorado Distillery) and a coolish (after dark) courtyard to sip it in. It's time again! -- Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] where to get adobe cheep?
at SFCC there's a cource called 'digital basics' that I'm taking this fall that at least from what I've been told by the prof that teaches the class covers the basics of quite a bit of the adobe ecology (nonspecific to which bits of tools).At some point I had some interest in learning about the cloud-what makes it tick and the like-for the media arts program the require you to learn at least photosho illustrator and endesign. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: GaDOING! This interesting little nugget right towards the end got my undivided attention. Pick a convenient time we're there! On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: PPS and as a reward for Doug (and anyone else) for reading the whole diatribe (or cutting to the chase)... I have a fifth of Stranahans (Colorado Distillery) and a coolish (after dark) courtyard to sip it in. It's time again! -- Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Let the gun-control vs information-wants-to-be-free wars begin!
http://www.ted.com/talks/marc_goodman_a_vision_of_crimes_in_the_future.html The problem is - he is a cop, and sees life thru the lenses of a cop. and cops want control. Of course, one example he gives is the drug war - but does not examine root cause. ... bandit Hmmm I suppose this is a bit of a tricky question, it is illegal to distribute material on how to make an explosive: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/842 (section P.2 at the end) On the other hand, it is legal for people to distribute information and blueprints on how to make a gun in a machine shop. My guess is a CAD file falls under instructions on how to make a gun and will likely be protected. I could see future legislation forbidding the distribution of CAD files on how to make a illegal parts (silencers, automatic conversion, large round clips etc) if a terrorist ever uses a CAD gun. Greg Sonnenfeld Two h's walk into a bar. The first one says, What is this? Some kind of physics joke? On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Did I just mention that we live in strange (e.g. interesting in the Confucian sense) times? the-worlds-first-3d-printed-gun cant be long before you can DL a Glock .STL file oh wait! what's this ? Someone in the comments of SlashDot suggested that we might end up outlawing 3D printers and someone else suggested outlawing the teaching of geometry... but we all know from the rash of script kiddies that you don't need to understand the tools you are wielding to be effective en-masse! And re the Glock .STL... whatever happened to old fashioned soap carving and boot black ? - Steve FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- ban...@cruzio.com 505-228-8197 bandit.name I am a systems engineer, specializing in: - Mission-Critical embedded systems - device drivers - control and data acquisition systems My stuff *works* - *all the time*. Member: INCOSE.org, PACA.org, IEEE.org, CaliforniaConsultants.org, quelab.net And to support my son: Proud members of the New Mexico .NET User Group. Please go to the community website at www.nmug.net. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] Fwd: iClarified - Apple News - Hulu Plus is Now Available on the Apple TV
Hulu+ is now in the iDevice (phone, tv, pad, pod) ecology. http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=23582 Question: Is Hulu+ better than or complementary to Amazon prime or NetFlix streaming or iTunes? I've looked before but they didn't seem to have distinguished themselves from everyone else. The big deal for me would be sports .. having football games streamable within a day of play. Like many others seeking to cut the cord, sports is the big stumbling block. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
