Re: [FRIAM] Friam, meet Jeremy Ashkenas
This is a good example of Jeremy's monetization of open source software http://ashkenas.com/code-reads/ Its a personal code read, mainly for several projects he's created. I'm considering this for AgentScript once we get past our next goal: incorporation of a few professional models. -- Owen On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stephen Guerin stephen.gue...@redfish.com wrote: Thanks, Owen. Watching his talk in Paris now: http://ashkenas.com/dotjs/ --- -. . ..-. .. ... - .-- --- ..-. .. ... stephen.gue...@redfish.com 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 office: 505-995-0206 tollfree: 888-414-3855 mobile: 505-577-5828 tw: @redfishgroup skype: redfishgroup redfish.com | simtable.com On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote: I know folks have heard all the buzz about JavaScript, but may be confused about what's the big deal. I gave a wedtech on it long ago but it has some useful details: http://backspaces.net/temp/JSEverywhere.pdf This is a pointer to one of the heros of the JSE revolution, Jeremy Ashkenas. He is best known for his work with CoffeeScript, a pythonic version of JS that compiles to JS. He's also championed Literate Programming where your code is meant to be read. http://ashkenas.com/literate-coffeescript/ Here's the actual program Journo he's currently blogging with: https://github.com/jashkenas/journo/blob/master/README.md It's code even tho it looks like a document. The indented, highlighted pieces are Journo's code. The entire page is parsed by the coffeescript compiler and the runnable program produced. If you use twitter, look him up, he's worth following. https://twitter.com/jashkenas .. he's recovering from his intense work via a huge around-the-world trip. I believe he wrote Journo just before he left so that he could have a live blog of his trip. You can follow him and his myriad photos at http://ashkenas.com The point of all this is a new maturity in the computing world that is sorta a renaissance. Simplicity, Art, and directed to a goal. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Alternative to Google Reader
All: If you're looking for an alternative to Google Reader, check out http://www.feedly.com -tj -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Alternative to Google Reader
Are you using it as a chrome extension or webapp? Or is it separate from the browser? I beamed in and subscribed asking to transfer google feeds but saw no results. -- Owen On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: All: If you're looking for an alternative to Google Reader, check out http://www.feedly.com -tj -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Alternative to Google Reader
It's really very pretty. I've been using it both on Chrome and Galaxy S3. The problem I have with it on chrome is that the text is mainly in grey, and there seems to be no way to make it darker. Also, it's a bit confusing how to adjust the settings as you want them. Finally, there is Help and a Forum, but it's not easy to find. All-in-all, though, I'm using it because I haven't found anything better. And as I said, it is really pretty. *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Are you using it as a chrome extension or webapp? Or is it separate from the browser? I beamed in and subscribed asking to transfer google feeds but saw no results. -- Owen On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: All: If you're looking for an alternative to Google Reader, check out http://www.feedly.com -tj -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Alternative to Google Reader
Russ: Did you upgrade Feedly? I think the latest version may take care of -- or help with -- the contrast thing. -tom On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote: It's really very pretty. I've been using it both on Chrome and Galaxy S3. The problem I have with it on chrome is that the text is mainly in grey, and there seems to be no way to make it darker. Also, it's a bit confusing how to adjust the settings as you want them. Finally, there is Help and a Forum, but it's not easy to find. All-in-all, though, I'm using it because I haven't found anything better. And as I said, it is really pretty. *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote: Are you using it as a chrome extension or webapp? Or is it separate from the browser? I beamed in and subscribed asking to transfer google feeds but saw no results. -- Owen On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: All: If you're looking for an alternative to Google Reader, check out http://www.feedly.com -tj -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Alternative to Google Reader
Thanks, Tom, This is related to one of my complaints. I see no way to ask Feedly (on Chrome) to upgrade itself. I went to the list of Chrome extensions, which has a link to the Feedly website. (When I run Feedly, I don't see a link to the Feedly website from the tab in which it is running.) On the website, a button lets me launch Feedly. When I do it looks the same as always. The text color is grey, and I can find no way to make it darker. Am I missing something? *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: Russ: Did you upgrade Feedly? I think the latest version may take care of -- or help with -- the contrast thing. -tom On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.comwrote: It's really very pretty. I've been using it both on Chrome and Galaxy S3. The problem I have with it on chrome is that the text is mainly in grey, and there seems to be no way to make it darker. Also, it's a bit confusing how to adjust the settings as you want them. Finally, there is Help and a Forum, but it's not easy to find. All-in-all, though, I'm using it because I haven't found anything better. And as I said, it is really pretty. *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688 * * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote: Are you using it as a chrome extension or webapp? Or is it separate from the browser? I beamed in and subscribed asking to transfer google feeds but saw no results. -- Owen On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: All: If you're looking for an alternative to Google Reader, check out http://www.feedly.com -tj -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Alternative to Google Reader
Agree w/ Russ. I found it quite confusing and really have no idea whether or not I've got it right. I tried just using their site, presuming there'd be a webapp like Google had. I couldn't find one so I enabled the chrome extension. That brought up a page that looked promising. There is a help page for getting to a look like GR. -- Owen On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Tom, This is related to one of my complaints. I see no way to ask Feedly (on Chrome) to upgrade itself. I went to the list of Chrome extensions, which has a link to the Feedly website. (When I run Feedly, I don't see a link to the Feedly website from the tab in which it is running.) On the website, a button lets me launch Feedly. When I do it looks the same as always. The text color is grey, and I can find no way to make it darker. Am I missing something? *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: Russ: Did you upgrade Feedly? I think the latest version may take care of -- or help with -- the contrast thing. -tom On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.comwrote: It's really very pretty. I've been using it both on Chrome and Galaxy S3. The problem I have with it on chrome is that the text is mainly in grey, and there seems to be no way to make it darker. Also, it's a bit confusing how to adjust the settings as you want them. Finally, there is Help and a Forum, but it's not easy to find. All-in-all, though, I'm using it because I haven't found anything better. And as I said, it is really pretty. *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote: Are you using it as a chrome extension or webapp? Or is it separate from the browser? I beamed in and subscribed asking to transfer google feeds but saw no results. -- Owen On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.comwrote: All: If you're looking for an alternative to Google Reader, check out http://www.feedly.com -tj -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Alternative to Google Reader
I liked the look and feel of the Galaxy app, but I was unable to find one for Windows. As I said, the Chrome extension is really quite pretty. Much nicer than Google Reader. I expect that I'll be happy with it. I just wish I could make the font darker. (Tom, I don't have a problem with font readability anywhere else.) *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Agree w/ Russ. I found it quite confusing and really have no idea whether or not I've got it right. I tried just using their site, presuming there'd be a webapp like Google had. I couldn't find one so I enabled the chrome extension. That brought up a page that looked promising. There is a help page for getting to a look like GR. -- Owen On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks, Tom, This is related to one of my complaints. I see no way to ask Feedly (on Chrome) to upgrade itself. I went to the list of Chrome extensions, which has a link to the Feedly website. (When I run Feedly, I don't see a link to the Feedly website from the tab in which it is running.) On the website, a button lets me launch Feedly. When I do it looks the same as always. The text color is grey, and I can find no way to make it darker. Am I missing something? *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688 * * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: Russ: Did you upgrade Feedly? I think the latest version may take care of -- or help with -- the contrast thing. -tom On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.comwrote: It's really very pretty. I've been using it both on Chrome and Galaxy S3. The problem I have with it on chrome is that the text is mainly in grey, and there seems to be no way to make it darker. Also, it's a bit confusing how to adjust the settings as you want them. Finally, there is Help and a Forum, but it's not easy to find. All-in-all, though, I'm using it because I haven't found anything better. And as I said, it is really pretty. *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote: Are you using it as a chrome extension or webapp? Or is it separate from the browser? I beamed in and subscribed asking to transfer google feeds but saw no results. -- Owen On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.comwrote: All: If you're looking for an alternative to Google Reader, check out http://www.feedly.com -tj -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- == J. T. Johnson Institute
[FRIAM] perplexed by netflix
Recently I thought I'd re-try out the DVD rental system of netflix: Last time I had it all the DVDs I got would play just fine. This time around of the 8 DVDs I've gotten so far only one played without any issues. It took a bit of digging to get a email adress they have several a dvddstribute and info that looked promising. Did something change in the last year since I last had DVD rentals as part of my netflix plan? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] perplexed by netflix
Gil - My wife and I reduced from 3 to 1 about a year ago since we were using streaming for most of our watching. We don't watch as many DVDs as we used to, so it is hard for me to be sure. My instinct is that the incidence of problems with DVDs *IS* higher than ever since we joined in 2005. On the other hand it is like 1 in 8 with a problem not the other way around. I'm not sure what device you are watching them with, have you trie dmore than one? Our Macbook Pro SuperDrives are very touchy. I also have a bottle of Cleaner and Conditioner that seems to both do a good job of cleaning surface problems but also filling small scratches. The disks we have had problems with have had obvious problems like a crack or a deep gouge. Hope this helps. - Steve Recently I thought I'd re-try out the DVD rental system of netflix: Last time I had it all the DVDs I got would play just fine. This time around of the 8 DVDs I've gotten so far only one played without any issues. It took a bit of digging to get a email adress they have several a dvddstribute and info that looked promising. Did something change in the last year since I last had DVD rentals as part of my netflix plan? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] perplexed by netflix
We're still all DVD and all Blue Ray. We get maybe 1 in 10 with a problem, usually a scratch. One potential issue may be an old DVD player. New features on DVDs can require at least a software upgrade to the player. Ed __ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 Sierra Pinon Santa Fe, NM 87501 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel On Mar 30, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: Our current fail rate is 1 in 3, so we switched to digital only. On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I thought I'd re-try out the DVD rental system of netflix: Last time I had it all the DVDs I got would play just fine. This time around of the 8 DVDs I've gotten so far only one played without any issues. It took a bit of digging to get a email adress they have several a dvddstribute and info that looked promising. Did something change in the last year since I last had DVD rentals as part of my netflix plan? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Fwd: “First do no harm”: My interview with Amazon and Goodreads on the future of Goodreads — paidContent
Amazon acquired Goodreads, http://www.goodreads.com/ .. a book review/chat/social site. Here's a post on the possible evil but it seems Amazon is sticking to its I'm a retailer, stupid line and I think I agree. http://paidcontent.org/2013/03/28/first-do-no-harm-my-interview-with-amazon-and-goodreads-on-the-future-of-goodreads/ Its interesting that, re: our recent chats about Google, Amazon seems clear. Its retail. No issues. Any evils we commit can be understood from retail. RETAIL, get it?! BTW: As I post this via the new GMail UI, I prefer it to the older one .. a lot more efficient use of space, although you gotta read the manual to figure out where all the menus/buttons are. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com