Re: [FRIAM] Manifesto Project Database
A minor motto / rule of thumb I have is: when confronted with two options without a criterion to arbitrate by (although in this case the name as used in the Constitution is a pretty good criterion), choose the third option. It seems other people have this rule too, as shown by the option to the giff/jiff pronunciation argument of 'zheef'. So I propose *a/an* Ukraine, seeing that means 'borderland' according to BBC article Robert linked. Edit: It seems there is agreement that geography and political category tend to induce articles: http://shar.es/OqXYUhttp://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/country-names-and-%E2%80%9Cthe%E2%80%9D-the-ukraine-or-ukraine As for pluralizing datum, most scientists can overlook common variations as long as you do not say datas. -Arlo James Barnes FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Manifesto Project Database
On 12/13/2013 01:37 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote: As for pluralizing datum, most scientists can overlook common variations as long as you do not say datas. Ha! I don't think I'll have that problem. I did learn a new one, the other day: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/datan -- ⇒⇐ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Manifesto Project Database
I prefer this description of the proper use of Data v Datum: The concept of a mass (or aggregate?) noun is more important than the distinction of a plural vs singular noun. It is more common to need to talk about a mass or aggregate of datums as data than many distinct datums (data) as data. Grammatically it would seem to be evidenced in usage like Data were vs Data was... it doesn't seem all that hard to me... am I missing something? - Steve * Data* *ORIGIN * mid 17th cent. (as a term in philosophy): from Latin, plural of DATUM. *USAGE*: In Latin, data is the plural of datum and, historically and in specialized scientific fields, it is also treated as a plural in English, taking a plural verb, as in the data were collected and classified. In modern non-scientific use, however, despite the complaints of traditionalists, it is often not treated as a plural. Instead, it is treated as a mass noun, similar to a word like information, which cannot normally have a plural and which takes a singular verb. Sentences such as data was (as well as data were) collected over a number of years are now widely accepted in standard English. On 12/13/2013 01:37 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote: As for pluralizing datum, most scientists can overlook common variations as long as you do not say datas. Ha! I don't think I'll have that problem. I did learn a new one, the other day: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/datan FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Ever read the Google Agreement you signed
Here is the passage from the google contract that applies to your use of their services: 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services. 11.2 You agree that this licence includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services. Rememberthat I warned you when you love letters turn up being performed as the libretto for an opera at the S.F Opera. Would you give such power to an organization that cannot spell license? Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Ever read the Google Agreement you signed
I especially give them the right to “publicly perform” something I say when I am discussing inserting things, especially when it refers to places that don’t receive a lot of solar radiation. They are very welcome to perform such things in public. Gary On Dec 13, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Nick Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Here is the passage from the google contract that applies to your use of their services: 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services. 11.2 You agree that this licence includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services. Rememberthat I warned you when you love letters turn up being performed as the libretto for an opera at the S.F Opera. Would you give such power to an organization that cannot spell license? Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Ever read the Google Agreement you signed
Google is already negotiating the rights with HBO and Netflix for a reality TV style show based on the FRIAM archives... While FRIAM archives are not hosted directly on Google, enough members (even one is enough) with GMail accounts route the FRIAM digest through Google, thereby signing away all of our rights. I hear that Donald Sutherland has been approached to play Nick Thompson. Any speculations about the remaining caste of characters? We understand that Sally Field, Nicholas Cage and John Malkovich are all reading the archives now. I'm just hoping to get to stunt double for John Malkovitch playing my role... he'll have to wear a body suit of course. I especially give them the right to “publicly perform” something I say when I am discussing inserting things, especially when it refers to places that don’t receive a lot of solar radiation. They are very welcome to perform such things in public. Gary On Dec 13, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Nick Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Here is the passage from the google contract that applies to your use of their services: 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services. 11.2 You agree that this licence includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services. Rememberthat I warned you when you love letters turn up being performed as the libretto for an opera at the S.F Opera. Would you give such power to an organization that cannot spell license? Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Ever read the Google Agreement you signed
When is Pamela going to write a novel about the day that the Google Board of Directors decides that there is more money to be made in enforcing the user contracts as written, rather than actually performing services. I can see the letter now: Dear Gary Schiltz, We were in the process of looking for a buyer of the publication rights of your love letters to that slinky nymph down the street, and we wondered if, by any chance, you would like to buy back the right you granted to us when you signed up for gmail? At an average of a thousand dollars per user, a billion users, even Google might take notice of that revenue stream. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schiltz Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 3:22 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ever read the Google Agreement you signed I especially give them the right to publicly perform something I say when I am discussing inserting things, especially when it refers to places that don't receive a lot of solar radiation. They are very welcome to perform such things in public. Gary On Dec 13, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Nick Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Here is the passage from the google contract that applies to your use of their services: 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services. 11.2 You agree that this licence includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services. Rememberthat I warned you when you love letters turn up being performed as the libretto for an opera at the S.F Opera. Would you give such power to an organization that cannot spell license? Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Ever read the Google Agreement you signed
You retain the rights because you give Google a *non*exclusive license - see thishttp://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/1sndxe/weve_rewritten_our_user_agreement_come_check_it/apropos thread about the recent update to Reddit's TOS/EULA http://TermsOfService, EndUserLicens/ceAgreement. Still does not mean they cannot potentially eat your lunch, as in RSRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome,_Sweet_Rome#Licensing_issues . Also, if we are going with unrealism, I claim dibs on Christopher Lee. -Arlo James Barnes FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Firefox updates
Ugh. While I don't use ebay, i do use a variety of other websites On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Robert J. Cordingley rob...@cirrillian.com wrote: FWIW I'm now on v26 with no problems, but I don't access Gmail (tested ok today) or eBay with it. Robert C +Mac OSX 10.8.5 On 12/11/13 10:56 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Greetings fellow technomancers, The tittle is incomplete: I don't know if this has happend to anyone else: after Firefox just recently has attempted to update, it hasn't worked consistently. Quite a few people are reporting issues to mozzilas tech support. It's a long spectrum of issues that've been reported by other users to to firefox. It seems to cover Gmail crashing the browser to duplicate bids on ebay If anyone else has been hit with this I'm curius what they've done to solve it. I'm not sure what veQ is causing some combination of firefox and a variety of webpages to become incompatible. for pure havok this gremlin has great timing. My only hackish workaround so far has been to uninstall, and go back to version 20 of firefox, and also tell firefox not to update. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Ever read the Google Agreement you signed
On 12/13/2013 02:57 PM, Steve Smith wrote: I hear that Donald Sutherland has been approached to play Nick Thompson. Any speculations about the remaining caste of characters? We understand that Sally Field, Nicholas Cage and John Malkovich are all reading the archives now. I'm just hoping to get to stunt double for John Malkovitch playing my role... he'll have to wear a body suit of course. I'm thinking Steve Buscemi ... or maybe Crispin Glover ... though I'd settle for Paul Reubens or Bobcat Goldthwait. -- ⇒⇐ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Ever read the Google Agreement you signed
Arlo - Also, if we are going with unrealism, I claim dibs on Christopher Lee. I'd prefer to call it surrealism: But in any case, I *can* see the connection! http://loudwire.com/christopher-lee-a-heavy-metal-christmas-too/ - Steve FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Ever read the Google Agreement you signed
They've cadged Danny DeVito for my role . . . On Friday, December 13, 2013, Nick Thompson wrote: When is Pamela going to write a novel about the day that the Google Board of Directors decides that there is more money to be made in enforcing the user contracts as written, rather than actually performing services. I can see the letter now: Dear Gary Schiltz, We were in the process of looking for a buyer of the publication rights of your love letters to that slinky nymph down the street, and we wondered if, by any chance, you would like to buy back the right you granted to us when you signed up for gmail? At an average of a thousand dollars per user, a billion users, even Google might take notice of that revenue stream. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of Gary Schiltz Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 3:22 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ever read the Google Agreement you signed I especially give them the right to publicly perform something I say when I am discussing inserting things, especially when it refers to places that don't receive a lot of solar radiation. They are very welcome to perform such things in public. Gary On Dec 13, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Nick Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.netjavascript:; wrote: Here is the passage from the google contract that applies to your use of their services: 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services. 11.2 You agree that this licence includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services. Rememberthat I warned you when you love letters turn up being performed as the libretto for an opera at the S.F Opera. Would you give such power to an organization that cannot spell license? Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, please send an email to patrick.rei...@ipsociety.net. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Manifesto Project Database
A rather hackish proxy, but ngramhttps://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=data+were%2Cdata+wascase_insensitive=onyear_start=1800year_end=2000corpus=15smoothing=3share=direct_url=t4%3B%2Cdata%20were%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bdata%20were%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BData%20were%3B%2Cc0%3B.t4%3B%2Cdata%20was%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bdata%20was%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BData%20was%3B%2Cc0 here. Datan is interesting (Spanish for they date [the wreck to 1408]) but apparently exclusively non-English/[Modern/Pseudo/Late/regular]Latin? -Arlo FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
