date:20181013

Re: [FRIAM] Complexity Returns to the Mother Church (or v.v?).

2018-10-13 Thread Nick Thompson

Geez, Robert.  You aren’t going to actually REMEMBER anything I said at FRIAM.  
I count on the Geriatric Curtain of Forgetfullness. 

His name was Donald Griffin 

 .  Many people will say that he ADVANCED ethology 50 years.  The bat work was 
good.  But he started showing up at ethology meetings telling us how to think 
about  animal consciousness, and that, on my account, as a behaviorist, was a 
VERY BAD THING.  

It was great to see you again.  Mostly because you are you, but partly, I 
suppose, because of your British education, you have the capacity to hold ideas 
lightly and rotate them in our view, and that is a great talent to have at the 
table at FRIAM. 

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Robert Holmes
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:54 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Complexity Returns to the Mother Church (or v.v?).

Randall Munroe says this better than I ever could

PHYSICISTS  

By the way Nick, you mentioned a physicist who set ethology back 50 years. Who 
was it?

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 5:10 PM uǝlƃ ☣ mailto:geprope...@gmail.com> > wrote:

On 10/12/18 3:46 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> 5. ... From the strength of the triangle one can infer something about the 
> parts that make it up, but from the parts themselves, lacking information 
> about their arrangement, one cannot determine that the triangle will be 
> strong.

UNLESS! The information about how such parts *can* be arranged is deducible 
from the parts, themselves.  E.g. regular vs. irregular tilings.

-- 
☣ uǝlƃ

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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-13 Thread Roger Critchlow

I'd wonder how much space you've allocated for browser caching.

 -- rec --

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 1:00 PM Marcus Daniels  wrote:

> Maybe indexing by the system or Outlook, or a large swapfile.   If you
> suspect something is gone bezerk fire-up task manager and watch what is
> happening.
> Indexing might asymptotically reach a maximum but had not because you had
> run out of space.
>
> On 10/12/18, 11:34 PM, "Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson" <
> friam-boun...@redfish.com on behalf of nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Ok, folks,  the mystery continues.
>
> Of the 12 G I freed up on my computer moving stuff to the external HD
> and deleting stuff AND deleting the trash AND cleaning up system files,
> repeatedly, all but 5 G had been replaced 24 hours later!  I had done
> nothing on the machine in the meantime but answer email.
>   Are you SURE that there is no way that some program has gone berserk
> an is busily cloning stuff on my HD?  Are there any programs that are prone
> to that sort of thing?  Outlook?  Firefox?
>
> Just double checking.
>
> Nick
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus
> Daniels
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 9:44 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>
> How about $10 a gallon gas and $2000 / month rent?  I'd settle for
> that.
>
> On 10/11/18, 12:14 PM, "Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson" <
> friam-boun...@redfish.com on behalf of nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Barry,
>
> But we Puritans think that currency inflation is one of the wages
> of sin, and if we spend less money, the world will returned to an earlier
> State of Grace.  I still remember 25 cent gasoline on Ashby Avenue in
> Berkeley.  That's what gasoline SHOULD cost.
>
> Nick
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Barry
> MacKichan
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:36 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>
> This may not be any consolation, but these “dollars” you speak of,
> thanks to inflation, are what we used to call in our childhood, “dimes”.
>
> --Barry
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 12:30, Nick Thompson wrote:
>
> > I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal
> > injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps
> it's
> > time to suck it up?
> >
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-13 Thread Marcus Daniels

Maybe indexing by the system or Outlook, or a large swapfile.   If you suspect 
something is gone bezerk fire-up task manager and watch what is happening. 
Indexing might asymptotically reach a maximum but had not because you had run 
out of space.

On 10/12/18, 11:34 PM, "Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson" 
 wrote:

Ok, folks,  the mystery continues. 

Of the 12 G I freed up on my computer moving stuff to the external HD and 
deleting stuff AND deleting the trash AND cleaning up system files, repeatedly, 
all but 5 G had been replaced 24 hours later!  I had done nothing on the 
machine in the meantime but answer email.
  Are you SURE that there is no way that some program has gone berserk an 
is busily cloning stuff on my HD?  Are there any programs that are prone to 
that sort of thing?  Outlook?  Firefox?  

Just double checking. 

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

-Original Message-
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 9:44 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

How about $10 a gallon gas and $2000 / month rent?  I'd settle for that.

On 10/11/18, 12:14 PM, "Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson" 
 wrote:

Thanks, Barry, 

But we Puritans think that currency inflation is one of the wages of 
sin, and if we spend less money, the world will returned to an earlier State of 
Grace.  I still remember 25 cent gasoline on Ashby Avenue in Berkeley.  That's 
what gasoline SHOULD cost.  

Nick 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

-Original Message-
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Barry 
MacKichan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:36 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 

Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

This may not be any consolation, but these “dollars” you speak of, 
thanks to inflation, are what we used to call in our childhood, “dimes”.

--Barry

On 10 Oct 2018, at 12:30, Nick Thompson wrote:

> I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal 
> injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps it's 
> time to suck it up?
>

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Re: [FRIAM] Complexity Returns to the Mother Church (or v.v?).

2018-10-13 Thread Robert Holmes

Randall Munroe says this better than I ever could

PHYSICISTS 

By the way Nick, you mentioned a physicist who set ethology back 50 years.
Who was it?

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 5:10 PM uǝlƃ ☣  wrote:

> On 10/12/18 3:46 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> > 5. ... From the strength of the triangle one can infer something about
> the parts that make it up, but from the parts themselves, lacking
> information about their arrangement, one cannot determine that the triangle
> will be strong.
>
> UNLESS! The information about how such parts *can* be arranged is
> deducible from the parts, themselves.  E.g. regular vs. irregular tilings.
>
> --
> ☣ uǝlƃ
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-13 Thread Tom Johnson

Nick:
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On Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 7:34 AM Nick Thompson 
wrote:

> Ok, folks,  the mystery continues.
>
> Of the 12 G I freed up on my computer moving stuff to the external HD and
> deleting stuff AND deleting the trash AND cleaning up system files,
> repeatedly, all but 5 G had been replaced 24 hours later!  I had done
> nothing on the machine in the meantime but answer email.
>   Are you SURE that there is no way that some program has gone berserk an
> is busily cloning stuff on my HD?  Are there any programs that are prone to
> that sort of thing?  Outlook?  Firefox?
>
> Just double checking.
>
> Nick
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 9:44 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>
> How about $10 a gallon gas and $2000 / month rent?  I'd settle for that.
>
> On 10/11/18, 12:14 PM, "Friam on behalf of Nick Thompson" <
> friam-boun...@redfish.com on behalf of nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Barry,
>
> But we Puritans think that currency inflation is one of the wages of
> sin, and if we spend less money, the world will returned to an earlier
> State of Grace.  I still remember 25 cent gasoline on Ashby Avenue in
> Berkeley.  That's what gasoline SHOULD cost.
>
> Nick
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Barry
> MacKichan
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:36 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>
> This may not be any consolation, but these “dollars” you speak of,
> thanks to inflation, are what we used to call in our childhood, “dimes”.
>
> --Barry
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 12:30, Nick Thompson wrote:
>
> > I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer.  It seems a mortal
> > injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul.  But perhaps
> it's
> > time to suck it up?
> >
>
> 
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
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>
>
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