Re: [FRIAM] Desktop Laptop Coordination
Roger Critchlow wrote: unison has always been good to me when synchronizing between Windows and Linux, http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/, and I see it's available for OSX, too. But the problem is always getting a bit tired of waiting for the synchronization to complete when I'm in a hurry, so I don't do it. I'm using rsync onto a usb laptop drive for some purposes these days, but even then the time involved is a bit tiresome, and the possibility of getting mis-synchronized (ie, overwriting a newer file by accident) is present. I tried various synchronization schemes between my Powerbook and both Linux and Windows boxen. My goal was to have a USB drive I could plug into any of my computers and start working. I have never achieved that goal. One thing I found irritating was OS X', apparently deliberate, inability to write correctly to other file systems. NTFS supports file creation, modification, POSIX change, and POSIX access date/time stamps, but every time I copied my home directory from OS X to an NTFS removable drive, all files had that date/time for all dates. That made it impossible to use my Lacie drive as my home directory on all systems. As for Linux, OS X refused to interact with anything Linux without 3rd party help. I didn't have time to make it work. I just checked and the Apple site has no information through search under support on linux file systems or Ext3. The whole area of synchronizing my work to make it available on multiple systems is one in which OS X has failed me. -- Ray Parks [EMAIL PROTECTED] IDART Project Lead Voice:505-844-4024 IORTA DepartmentMobile:505-238-9359 http://www.sandia.gov/scada Fax:505-844-9641 http://www.sandia.gov/idart Pager:800-690-5288 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Desktop Laptop Coordination
unison has always been good to me when synchronizing between Windows and Linux, http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/, and I see it's available for OSX, too. But the problem is always getting a bit tired of waiting for the synchronization to complete when I'm in a hurry, so I don't do it. I'm using rsync onto a usb laptop drive for some purposes these days, but even then the time involved is a bit tiresome, and the possibility of getting mis-synchronized (ie, overwriting a newer file by accident) is present. -- rec --On 9/27/06, Robert Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim's post prompted me to see if there was a version of rsync for windows. The two options seem to be:(1) install cygwin - rsync comes as part of the package. (I'm not a great fan of cygwin so I decided against this approach) (2) install microsoft's resource kit tools for MS Server 2003 ( http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffddisplaylang=en ). They include robocopy which isn't a clone of rsync but has pretty good functionality. It seems to have much tighter control of exactly what is getting synchronized than SyncToy does.R On 9/26/06, Tim Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 September 2006 13:20, Owen Densmore wrote: So the question comes up: for FRIAMers having both a laptop and a desktop: what is your strategy for keeping the two in synch?Or do you bother -- instead doing some sorts of things on the desktop, and other stuff on the desktop, with a small intersection.I use rsync for things I want on both - I also ssh to my workstationfrequently for access to stuff I don't really need on my lappy, but needaccess to. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservMeets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's Collegelectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Desktop Laptop Coordination
Generally I just put everything on a server manually, although what I'd like would be a nonlocal filesystem I could mount from either machine. -- Giles Bowkett http://www.gilesgoatboy.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] Desktop Laptop Coordination
Well, its time to get a new mac. I've got a 17 powerbook, so the obvious solution is to get a macbook pro when the next batch comes out. But I'm kinda thinking about a desktop instead. I can keep the powerbook chugging along for another year, maybe two. And get now a killer desktop. So the question comes up: for FRIAMers having both a laptop and a desktop: what is your strategy for keeping the two in synch? Or do you bother -- instead doing some sorts of things on the desktop, and other stuff on the desktop, with a small intersection. A lot of my work is could really benefit by having great performance. For example, here's a prototype applet for studying stadium evacuation: http://www.backspaces.net/models/Stadium/applet/ You can change the settings via the keyboard, and navigate the 3D space via the mouse. To really make it struggle, type f to bring in a real stadium, then 0 to make a 100K agents. I get about 1.4 fps. To really slow it down further, hit s twice which makes the shape be a 3D box. This can crawl along at around .5 fps or so. I went into our local apple shop and it seemed to me that I could double that with the latest hardware, with the desktops doing even better. So just interested what folks do who still have desktops and laptops both. -- Owen Owen Densmore505-988-3787 http://backspaces.net Redfish Group: 505-995-0206 http://redfish.com http://friam.org/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Desktop Laptop Coordination
I just keep stuff I need on an external 80GB WD passport usb drive, which works with 2 desktops and one laptop. And keep all email and calendar on gmail and google calendar. Sometimes I end up with files on the laptop when I need it in the office, but most of the time it works out fine. No elaborate syncing though. On 9/26/06, Tim Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 September 2006 13:20, Owen Densmore wrote: So the question comes up: for FRIAMers having both a laptop and a desktop: what is your strategy for keeping the two in synch? Or do you bother -- instead doing some sorts of things on the desktop, and other stuff on the desktop, with a small intersection. I use rsync for things I want on both - I also ssh to my workstation frequently for access to stuff I don't really need on my lappy, but need access to. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Desktop Laptop Coordination
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 13:20, Owen Densmore wrote: So the question comes up: for FRIAMers having both a laptop and a desktop: what is your strategy for keeping the two in synch? Or do you bother -- instead doing some sorts of things on the desktop, and other stuff on the desktop, with a small intersection. I put code and technical documents in Subversion, and sync via that (via a WebDAV/Subversion apache module). Unlike CVS, Subversion handles renaming of modules without much hassle, and handles binaries. Btw, a few years ago I played around with the Inter-Mezzo filesystem (http://www.inter-mezzo.org). Idea there is to have the kernel keep a transaction record of all reads and writes against a file(system) and store them in a log. Resyncing is then just a matter of replaying the transactions to the target machine (e.g. the desktop). It worked pretty well, but unfortunately it isn't maintained much these days. The developers moved on to work on the Lustre distributed file system. Marcus FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
