Re: [FRIAM] Historical Software Collection
Apparently, they had a fire. https://blog.archive.org/2013/11/06/scanning-center-fire-please-help-rebuild/ Scanning Center Fire — Please Help Rebuild Posted on November 6, 2013 by brewster Scanning Center Fire Scanning Center with Fire Damage to Left of Main Building This morning at about 3:30 a.m. a fire started at the Internet Archive’s San Francisco scanning center. The good news is that no one was hurt and no data was lost. Our main building was not affected except for damage to one electrical run. This power issue caused us to lose power to some servers for a while. On 10/29/2013 09:31 AM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: https://archive.org/details/historicalsoftware This collection contains selected historically important software packages from the Internet Archive's software archives. Through the use of in-browser emulators, it is possible to try out these items and experiment with using them, without the additional burdens of installing emulator software or tracking down the programs. Many of these software products were the first of their kind, or utilized features and approaches that have been copied or recreated on many programs since. (historic software, vintage software, antique software) -- glen ep ropella -- 971-255-2847 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Historical Software Collection
https://archive.org/details/historicalsoftware This collection contains selected historically important software packages from the Internet Archive's software archives. Through the use of in-browser emulators, it is possible to try out these items and experiment with using them, without the additional burdens of installing emulator software or tracking down the programs. Many of these software products were the first of their kind, or utilized features and approaches that have been copied or recreated on many programs since. (historic software, vintage software, antique software) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com Give good people the power to do good and that power eventually will be in the hands of bad people to do bad. -- Harry Browne FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Historical Software Collection
Wow, that’s cool. It’s a shame that so much software will never see the light of day. Many billions of dollars were spent developing software in the 80s for the DOD as well as Soviet agencies. I’ve heard it argued that the USSR lost the cold war mainly because the USA made them spend so much on defense, and quite a sizable chunk of that was for software. Gary On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:31 AM, glen e. p. ropella g...@tempusdictum.com wrote: https://archive.org/details/historicalsoftware This collection contains selected historically important software packages from the Internet Archive's software archives. Through the use of in-browser emulators, it is possible to try out these items and experiment with using them, without the additional burdens of installing emulator software or tracking down the programs. Many of these software products were the first of their kind, or utilized features and approaches that have been copied or recreated on many programs since. (historic software, vintage software, antique software) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com Give good people the power to do good and that power eventually will be in the hands of bad people to do bad. -- Harry Browne FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Historical Software Collection
For many of the same reasons, I also found this site interesting: http://www.compileonline.com/index.php Compile and Execute your favorite programming languages online, click any of the following to proceed! I honestly had never heard of Malbolge, Factor, and Fantom. Gary Schiltz wrote at 10/29/2013 09:43 AM: Wow, that�s cool. It�s a shame that so much software will never see the light of day. Many billions of dollars were spent developing software in the 80s for the DOD as well as Soviet agencies. I�ve heard it argued that the USSR lost the cold war mainly because the USA made them spend so much on defense, and quite a sizable chunk of that was for software. Gary On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:31 AM, glen e. p. ropella g...@tempusdictum.com wrote: https://archive.org/details/historicalsoftware This collection contains selected historically important software packages from the Internet Archive's software archives. Through the use of in-browser emulators, it is possible to try out these items and experiment with using them, without the additional burdens of installing emulator software or tracking down the programs. Many of these software products were the first of their kind, or utilized features and approaches that have been copied or recreated on many programs since. (historic software, vintage software, antique software) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com If you disclose the solution to the mystery you are simply depriving the other seekers of an important source of energy. -- Conchis, The Magus by John Fowles FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Historical Software Collection
Wow, that’s cool. It’s a shame that so much software will never see the light of day. Many billions of dollars were spent developing software in the 80s for the DOD as well as Soviet agencies. I’ve heard it argued that the USSR lost the cold war mainly because the USA made them spend so much on defense, and quite a sizable chunk of that was for software. Gary Interesting collection, as well as the web-portal emulator for the languages ... One obvious interest is simple nostalgia... many, though not all, of us are old enough to have been there for the systems, the tools (or games mostly in this link's case), and the hope for a better tomorrow that seemed to come along for the ride in early computer/software work. These two links make me think once more of the duality between art and artifact... between the culture and experience of making and using these artifacts (from computer games to spread sheets to ICBM targeting and guidance systems) and the artifacts (body of code, running code/system) themselves. One point of things like the Internet Archive and the Language Emulator Portal would seem to be to not only preserve these artifacts but to make them accessible to a wide range of people (on the off chance that they will somehow be re-used in some way)? Art/Artifact seems related to the duals of Form/Function and Structure/Dynamics ... and in the context of a rapidly evolving (changing/morphing?) environment (most of the artifacts in Glen's examples are order 30 years old, or about the lifetime or career span of most people alive today). This reminds me of the famous Cambrian Radiation of half a billion years ago in the animal/fossil record... in some odd sense, we have a co-incidence in the computer of a new and very rich venue for the creation, mutation, and expression of complex structures and of a fossilization medium. This may in some odd way parallel the belief that the Cambrian Explosion may have been partly driven by the increased calcium concentrations in seawater which simultaneously made it easier for organisms to build skeletal structures (opening a new dimension for exploration of adjacent possibles?) and for those structures to be recorded as fossils. Being down in the pores in the needles on the twigs on the branches of the trees in the forest, I think it will be hard for us to begin to see what kind of explosion, we ourselves are within. I'm not on board with the Singularians (especially of the Kurzweil variety) exactly, but I do think that something spectacular is afoot and am both awed and cowed by the possibilities (cowed by realizing how incredibly inefficient and brutal evolution/natural-selection is). - Steve FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
