Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6

2010-02-10 Par sujet Dominique Rousseau
Le Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:48:26AM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer 
[bortzme...@nic.fr] a écrit:
 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:17:01AM +0100,
  Laurent GUINCHARD l...@oleane.net wrote 
  a message of 30 lines which said:
 
  Pour Youtube, moi j'ai pas d'enregistrement DNS .
 
 Normal, cela n'a jamais été sur le portail Web, uniquement sur les
 serveurs de streaming :
 
 % dig  s.ytimg.com
 ...
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 s.ytimg.com.3556IN  CNAME   static.cache.l.google.com.
 static.cache.l.google.com. 256  IN  2a00:1450:4001:2::14

Mais y'a les memes restrictions de on choisit à qui on parle ipv6
parceque moi, par exemple, je n'ai pas de réponse, pour la même requete
que celle que tu fais.

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Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6

2010-02-10 Par sujet Radu-Adrian Feurdean

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:48:26 +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer
bortzme...@nic.fr said:
 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:17:01AM +0100,
  Laurent GUINCHARD l...@oleane.net wrote 
  a message of 30 lines which said:
 
  Pour Youtube, moi j'ai pas d'enregistrement DNS .
 
 Normal, cela n'a jamais été sur le portail Web, uniquement sur les
 serveurs de streaming :

E. non. 

r...@cha0s:~$ host www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com is an alias for youtube-ui.l.google.com.
youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.113
youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.102
youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.101
youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.100
youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.138
youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.139
youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::64
youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::71
youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::65
youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::8a
youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::66
youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::8b
r...@cha0s:~$ 


Par contre, ca marche que depuis ma connexion free, pas depuis mon
boulot, meme si j'ai une connexion v6.

Ca doit etre le meme systeme ou leur DNS retourne des  uniquement
pour des partenaires bien choisis.

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Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6

2010-02-10 Par sujet Artur Pydo
Salut,

Le 10/02/2010 12:04, Radu-Adrian Feurdean a écrit :
 r...@cha0s:~$ host www.youtube.com
 www.youtube.com is an alias for youtube-ui.l.google.com.
 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::64
 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::71
 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::65
 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::8a
 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::66
 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::8b
 
 Par contre, ca marche que depuis ma connexion free, pas depuis mon
 boulot, meme si j'ai une connexion v6.
 
 Ca doit etre le meme systeme ou leur DNS retourne des  uniquement
 pour des partenaires bien choisis.

C'est con, comme j'ai mes propres serveurs DNS sur des liaisons Free je
l'aurait jamais le gogole en IPv6. :/

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Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6

2010-02-10 Par sujet Alexandre Archambault

Le 10 févr. 10 à 12:04, Radu-Adrian Feurdean a écrit :


Ca doit etre le meme systeme ou leur DNS retourne des  uniquement
pour des partenaires bien choisis.


Hummm, neutralité vous disiez ? C'est bien de se pignoler sur ces  
méchants opérateurs qui ne font rien que verrouiller le marché et les  
abonnés finals, mais pendant que ça se rue les étendards à la main  
dans une seule direction, ça passe quand même un peu à côté de  
l'essentiel.


Car le contenu, à la base, il est hors périmètre des opérateurs, non ?

Oui, je sais, on est mercredi (tiens, la sirène du SNA n'a pas hurlé).

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Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6

2010-02-10 Par sujet Mathieu Debieuvre
 Hello FRnOG,

Vu sur une autre liste quelques jours plus tot, je pense que cela repondra
aux interrogations de certains...

Cheers from Australia,
m...@tt

 Original Message   Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Fw:
Youtube-over-IPv6  Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 23:32:42 -0800  From: Maurice Dean
md...@google.com md...@google.com  To: Richard Pruss
r...@cisco.comr...@cisco.com  CC:
Craig Meyers craig.mey...@citec.com.au craig.mey...@citec.com.au,
aus...@ausnog.net

Take a look at http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ for the approach and
rationale, then mail google-i...@google.com, we will respond, although
please understand if it takes a day or two.

 Regards
Maurice

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Richard Pruss r...@cisco.com wrote:

 They are limiting who gets ipv6 responses to networks that have chatted to
 them and are ready to give IPv6 services.

 The reason they do not just respond to any DNS request  with the v6
 response is they are deeply concerned about keeping their bread and butter
 services running smoothly.  That said they seem to have a team which
 is deeply committed to IPv6 transition and working with many SP's to make
 it happen smoothly.

 I would suggest you chat to them.

 - Ric

 On 02/02/2010, at 4:35 PM, Mark Smith wrote:

  On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:13:35 +1000
  Craig Meyers craig.mey...@citec.com.au wrote:
 
 
  I couldn't see any  resolution for www.youtube.com or
  ipv6.youtube.com. Even using google's DNS. (if you're keen see nslookup
  dumps below)
 
  There's  records for ipv6.google.com but not www.google.com
 
  Is the youtube content over ipv6 on a different url?
 
  Google contridicts itself. On the url
  http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/; it quotes that www.google.com
  resolution is an IPv6 address only when using a DNS resolver with
  Google over IPv6.
 
 
  My understanding is that you have to get in contact with them, and
  provide them with your DNS resolver IP addresses. When they then see
  DNS queries from those addresses then they'll serve both As and s.
 
  But on http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html; referring to
  google's DNS resolver - it does not yet support native ipv6 transport.
 
  There's also a network/mac world article on youtube  ipv6:
  http://www.macworld.com/article/146056/2010/02/ipv6_youtube.html
 
  But no reference as to how one accesses the youtube content over ipv6.
  Anyone able to access youtube over ipv6 yet?
 
  -- Craig Meyers
 
  $ nslookup -type= www.youtube.com 8.8.4.4
  Server: 8.8.4.4
  Address:8.8.4.4#53
 
  Non-authoritative answer:
  www.youtube.com canonical name = youtube-ui.l.google.com.
  youtube-ui.l.google.com canonical name = youtube-ui-china.l.google.com.
 
  Authoritative answers can be found from:
  l.google.com
 origin = ns3.google.com
 mail addr = dns-admin.google.com
 serial = 1405655
 refresh = 900
 retry = 900
 expire = 1800
 minimum = 60
 
  $ nslookup -type= ipv6.youtube.com 8.8.4.4
  Server: 8.8.4.4
  Address:8.8.4.4#53
 
  ** server can't find ipv6.youtube.com: NXDOMAIN
 
 
 
  $ nslookup -type= ipv6.google.com 8.8.4.4
  Server: 8.8.4.4
  Address:8.8.4.4#53
 
  Non-authoritative answer:
  ipv6.google.com canonical name = ipv6.l.google.com.
  ipv6.l.google.com   has  address 2001:4860:c004::68
 
  Authoritative answers can be found from:
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net
  [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
  Sent: Friday, 29 January 2010 9:57 AM
  To: aus...@ausnog.net
  Subject: [AusNOG] Fw: Youtube-over-IPv6
 
  FYI
 
 
  Begin forwarded message:
 
  Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:51:58 +0100
  From: Martin Millnert mar...@millnert.se
  To: ipv6-...@lists.cluenet.de
  Subject: Youtube-over-IPv6
 
 
  Hello list,
 
  thought you might want to know:
 
  Google has quite recently enabled their Youtube content servers in the
  Google over IPv6 program, http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ .
 
  I do not want to steal their thunder, but this is great news everybody
  should hear.
 
  The effect of this is clearly visible in our IPv6 graphs at
  http://stats.csbnet.se/public/ipv6/ , or more specifically
  http://stats.csbnet.se/public/ipv6/csbnet-ipv6-traffictypes.html
 
  Regards,
  --
  Martin Millnert mar...@millnert.se
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