FVWM: Stepping down from next year.
Hello all, This is a very quick note to let you all know that as of next year I will be stepping down as the maintainer of FVWM -- largely this role is a very loose one, but since I seem to be the most vocal and more visibally active developer here, I felt it wise to mention this just in case people wonder where I've gone. I do not have the time anymore to devote to this project. As such, I will still be providing ad-hoc bug-fixes, and general advice, but that's about all. I will not be working on any major features. My last batch of work on this will be to complete module deprecation, even if that's stub code. Dominik Vogt and I are completing work on the Git conversion still, which I am pleased about. These will be done by early next year. As soon as that happens, I shall release FVWM 2.6.4 -- after that, well, that's someone else's problem. :) Thanks all. It's been fun. :) -- Thomas Adam -- Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong. But deep in my heart I know I am not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)
Re: FVWM: Stepping down from next year.
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 07:43:18PM +, Thomas Adam wrote: I do not have the time anymore to devote to this project. As such, I will still be providing ad-hoc bug-fixes, and general advice, but that's about all. I will not be working on any major features. Thank you Thomas, for all your hard and thorough work. We'll miss you. My last batch of work on this will be to complete module deprecation, even if that's stub code. Dominik Vogt and I are completing work on the Git conversion still, which I am pleased about. Hooray for Git! Let's hope that makes it easier for more people to contribute. K.A. -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen http://www.katspace.org / \| \_.--.*/| http://kerravonsen.dreamwidth.org/ v | http://kerravonsen.redbubble.com/ | Melbourne - Victoria - Australia - Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | - Earth - Sol - Milky Way Galaxy - Universe
Re: FVWM: Stepping down from next year.
Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes: Hello all, This is a very quick note to let you all know that as of next year I will be stepping down as the maintainer of FVWM -- largely this role is a very loose one, but since I seem to be the most vocal and more visibally active developer here, I felt it wise to mention this just in case people wonder where I've gone. I do not have the time anymore to devote to this project. As such, I will still be providing ad-hoc bug-fixes, and general advice, but that's about all. I will not be working on any major features. My last batch of work on this will be to complete module deprecation, even if that's stub code. Dominik Vogt and I are completing work on the Git conversion still, which I am pleased about. These will be done by early next year. As soon as that happens, I shall release FVWM 2.6.4 -- after that, well, that's someone else's problem. :) Thanks all. It's been fun. :) This is a thankless job and you are far from the first person to feel burnt out. (I'm guessing.) For my purposes, Fvwm was feature complete after the iconboxes, left menus and window minimizing animation made their appearance. I hope that we'll always have enough interested users to at least keep what's currently working up to date. Thanks for all your efforts. -- Dan Espen
Re: FVWM: Stepping down from next year.
Von: des...@verizon.net Gesendet: 07.11.2011 23:24:00 Having a single maintainer is too much of a burden. I've always been surprised that anyone would take on that role. Yes, that's probably true. I think Thomas is at the end of his power. The permanent attacks against him the last time weren't very cooperative at all ... If someone comes to this list with a great new idea and convinces the few of us that hang around that he's qualified he'll get commit privileges and Fvwm get new capabilities. A great new idea ... there are many ideas but for these ideas we need people who are willing to show them with config examples and accept constructive reviews. We need also a good default config for new users to show what is possible with Fvwm. We started months ago with them. I created a config based on that ideas but it must be tested and need feedback from the community. It's pretty hard to work up any ambition when Fvwm already does everything a person wants. (It does for me.) For me too, but we need more than comments what is bad and should change ... Hopefully we have the mechanisms in place for this project to carry on to serve that niche of users that want total control and don't need GUI's to write configuration files. Thomas started with his wiki for that but it should extend to get a rich pool of information around of Fvwm. Thomas -- What is the exact difference between a 'terminal', a 'shell', a 'tty' and a 'console'? A terminal is at the end of an electric wire, a shell is the home of a turtle, tty is a strange abbreviation and a console is a kind of cabinet. -- Gilles ___ SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=021192
Re: FVWM: Stepping down from next year.
Having a single maintainer is too much of a burden. I've always been surprised that anyone would take on that role. Yes, that's probably true. I think Thomas is at the end of his power. The permanent attacks against him the last time weren't very cooperative at all ... Wait a moment: surely Thomas' decision isn't influenced by a few (one?), at best, misguided individuals' attempts to, at best, help in a bad way? Thomas: please reassure us this is the case?! (Or let us protect you from such trivial undermining so you can carry on!) In fact, if we all call ``encore'' -- would you stay a little longer? ;-)
Re: FVWM: Stepping down from next year.
Hi Thomas, Hello all, This is a very quick note to let you all know that as of next year I will be stepping down as the maintainer of FVWM -- largely this role is a very loose one, but since I seem to be the most vocal and more visibally active developer here, I felt it wise to mention this just in case people wonder where I've gone. Its a very great pitty that you will step down your maintainer role :s But I understand it ... the last time was not very beneficial for you at many points ... I do not have the time anymore to devote to this project. As such, I will still be providing ad-hoc bug-fixes, and general advice, but that's about all. I will not be working on any major features. What is/are your new focal point(s) whether you would say it? Would you be in some cases a mentor to advocate new Fvwm developers? My last batch of work on this will be to complete module deprecation, even if that's stub code. Dominik Vogt and I are completing work on the Git conversion still, which I am pleased about. Moving from CVS to GIT ... what should it deliver if Fvwm will go in a pure maintaining mode? These will be done by early next year. As soon as that happens, I shall release FVWM 2.6.4 -- after that, well, that's someone else's problem. :) Damned ... and what about Fvwm forum? Will you also stop working on that field, too? Thanks all. It's been fun. :) No, it's not funny ... it's a tragedy ... Fvwm will loose a big part of it's heart ;( What about the other developers? Dominik, Dan, Jason, ... ? Will the project vanish into thin air? I can't believe it ... Thomas aka TF -- What is the exact difference between a 'terminal', a 'shell', a 'tty' and a 'console'? A terminal is at the end of an electric wire, a shell is the home of a turtle, tty is a strange abbreviation and a console is a kind of cabinet. -- Gilles ___ SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=021192
Re: FVWM: Stepping down from next year.
Thomas Funk t.f...@web.de writes: Thanks all. It's been fun. :) No, it's not funny ... it's a tragedy ... Fvwm will loose a big part of it's heart ;( What about the other developers? Dominik, Dan, Jason, ... ? Will the project vanish into thin air? I can't believe it ... Years ago we decided that fvwm workers would run the project. For a long time we had 4 or 5 people committing changes every few days. Since then it's been more of a one person at a time situation. Having a single maintainer is too much of a burden. I've always been surprised that anyone would take on that role. If someone comes to this list with a great new idea and convinces the few of us that hang around that he's qualified he'll get commit privileges and Fvwm get new capabilities. It's pretty hard to work up any ambition when Fvwm already does everything a person wants. (It does for me.) Hopefully we have the mechanisms in place for this project to carry on to serve that niche of users that want total control and don't need GUI's to write configuration files. -- Dan Espen
Re: FVWM: Stepping down from next year.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:43 AM, Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org wrote: Hello all, This is a very quick note to let you all know that as of next year I will be stepping down as the maintainer of FVWM -- largely this role is a very loose one, but since I seem to be the most vocal and more visibally active developer here, I felt it wise to mention this just in case people wonder where I've gone. as a beginner, i had learnt from you a lot in a few days after i came here. the only thing i could do is to express my deepest thanks. and a best wish. -- Liu An Institution of modern physics, Shanghai, China
