Re: FVWM: A problem in FVWM quit abnormally.

2011-12-02 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 12:55:53PM -0500, des...@verizon.net wrote:
 Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:
 
  I wouldn't bother with the Xorg logs myself either -- just concentrate on
  getting a corefile if FVWM really is crashing, which from your description,
  suggests it is.
 
 I'm curious Tom, what makes you think it's Fvwm and not X?
 Doesn't KDM gain control with either type of crash?

Maybe -- I think it depends how the window manager is started, but I took
the description of the problem to be FVWM's fault rather than X, and I've
seen the same symptoms before where FVWM was involved but couldn't track the
problem down so I'm hoping it is FVWM and not X.

 Personally, I don't use any kind of DM and use Xlogout to hold the
 session so I can easily tell what crashed.

Yes, which is why I still find xconsole invaluable.  :)

-- Thomas Adam



Re: FVWM: A problem in FVWM quit abnormally.

2011-12-02 Thread source liu
 Yes, which is why I still find xconsole invaluable.  :)

could you explain this sentence a little bit? :),  i mean, how invaluable.


when with gdb,  is that mean i should start fvwm with a console rather
than kdm.
and  for expecting the crash,  should i start fvwm with gdb every time
as you metioned above?



 -- Thomas Adam




-- 
Liu An
Institution of modern physics, Shanghai, China



Re: FVWM: A problem in FVWM quit abnormally.

2011-12-02 Thread despen
source liu sourceo...@gmail.com writes:

 Yes, which is why I still find xconsole invaluable.  :)

 could you explain this sentence a little bit? :),  i mean, how invaluable.

In most set ups, it's not easy to tell whether X has crashed or
the window manager has crashed.  You can use an application like
xconsole to hold the session instead of the window manager so that you
can tell the difference.

It's not something for a beginning user through.

To figure out whether X has crashed, take a look at
/var/log/Xorg.0.log.  See if you can find anything that indicates
that it crashed.

-- 
Dan Espen