Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010
On 14 March 2010 20:24, Thomas Adam tho...@xteddy.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:16:38PM +, Thomas Adam wrote: Hi all, So I am going to raise this now, unlike last year where we only had a few days to come up with something. Alas, this year, it is not to be. Despite my best efforts, I was unsuccessful in submitting an application on time. I am very sorry to have gotten anyone's hopes up on this. As they say: Better luck next time. Sorry all. what happened? i assume you didnt put any effort in this and you let it pass you by? i was looking forward to seeing this grow David
Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 05:07:00PM -0500, des...@verizon.net wrote: Viktor Griph vik...@griph.se writes: 2010/3/7 Thomas Adam tho...@xteddy.org: The poignant things any prospective mentors are going to need to know [3] are covered in question 2 -- which I am happy to fill out, but note that this won't and cannot get off the ground without a *backup* mentor. That's critical, and one of the failings from last year's proposal. So -- anyone from fvwm-workers wanting to step up to that? ?To be clear again -- I am offering to be main point of contact, etc., etc., the role of a backup mentor is to supplement my role should I die, or have no Internet access, etc. ?Hopefully something unlikely! I could probably serve as a backup mentor, but I will be on vacation sometime this summer (I'm not sure of the timeline currently), at which point I would not be able to step in as a mentor, should the needs appear. I'm not ready to volunteer, but the normal way fvwm developers seek help is through the Fvwm-workers mailing list. That doesn't need to change in this case. Perhaps, but on larger projects (as I have seen working on Git, for instance) some applicants prefer the one-to-one approach when developing a given feature for GSOC. I see no reason to discourage that approach if it's more appropriate for *them* -- and my role is to always keep fvwm-workers@ fully informed, etc., as I am sure most people might have assumed anyway. -- Thomas Adam -- It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head. -- Hush The Warmth, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.
Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:16:38PM +, Thomas Adam wrote: Hi all, So I am going to raise this now, unlike last year where we only had a few days to come up with something. Is there anyone here who's thinking of wanting to work on FVWM via GSOC? At this stage, I am not interested in gathering ideas (the TODO file is sufficient for this, as well as the original thread from last year [1]), other than to see how viable it is at this stage. I am of course offering mentoring services and/or main point of contact if no one else has any objections to either of that, of course. I know from working on other projects who've been able to garner GSOC support just how much time it places on mentors -- so whilst I am very willing to do this, I don't want to waste my time either if no one is interested. The ball needs to start rolling on this then. The timeline for the entire thing [0] is pretty clear. End of next week is the deadline for us, as a mentoring organisation to submit applications. This will include a list of tasks, we think, a student could potentially work on. To that end, I would like anyone with a passing interest to do that -- regardless of how stupid an idea might sound, I can easily sieve those ones which are either way outside of FVWM's remit, or those which are just too lengthy, etc. (I am assuming people are going to be screaming COMPOSITE at me, and I have an equally witty phrase I can come back with on that. :P) Thankfully now that we have the wiki, we can host any GSOC-related information there [1] -- without the need to give people CVS access to update some static webpage on fvwm.org (which was always an insane suggestion anyway.) In fact, to that end the page [2] has been created. The poignant things any prospective mentors are going to need to know [3] are covered in question 2 -- which I am happy to fill out, but note that this won't and cannot get off the ground without a *backup* mentor. That's critical, and one of the failings from last year's proposal. So -- anyone from fvwm-workers wanting to step up to that? To be clear again -- I am offering to be main point of contact, etc., etc., the role of a backup mentor is to supplement my role should I die, or have no Internet access, etc. Hopefully something unlikely! I appreciate the timing *couldn't* be worse for next week as I won't be around - so it looks like I will have to coordinate this from public libraries, Internet cafes, lunch breaks at work, etc., etc. Sorry about that, but I will do my best! TIA, -- Thomas Adam [0] http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline [1] http://fvwmwiki.xteddy.org [2] http://fvwmwiki.xteddy.org/GSOC/2010/ [3] http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#applying -- It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head. -- Hush The Warmth, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.
Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010
MK halfcountp...@intergate.com writes: On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:01:15 + Thomas Adam thomas.ada...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am no where near coming up with a list of proposals, so I wouldn't get too enamoured with the TODO list. It's still very early days, but I'll keep your name on my list. I finally got some time to start to poking around in the code a little bit this afternoon. I notice fvwm does not have a devel mailing list -- is this the appropriate place to start asking pesky source code questions? fvwm-work...@fvwm.org
Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:01:15 + Thomas Adam thomas.ada...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am no where near coming up with a list of proposals, so I wouldn't get too enamoured with the TODO list. It's still very early days, but I'll keep your name on my list. Just to make sure, which TODO list are you referring to here: the one that comes with the 2.5.28 source? Or something more recent? -- MK halfcountp...@intergate.com
Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 12:57:17PM -0500, MK wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:01:15 + Thomas Adam thomas.ada...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am no where near coming up with a list of proposals, so I wouldn't get too enamoured with the TODO list. It's still very early days, but I'll keep your name on my list. Just to make sure, which TODO list are you referring to here: the one that comes with the 2.5.28 source? Or something more recent? fvwm/docs/todo-3.0 (Does your MUA/editor allow for wrapping text at ~74 characters? If so, suggest you turn it on, as your reply was all on one long line. ;)) -- Thomas Adam -- It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head. -- Hush The Warmth, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.
Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:53:57AM -0500, MK wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:16:38 + Thomas Adam thomas.ada...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, So I am going to raise this now, unlike last year where we only had a few days to come up with something. Is there anyone here who's thinking of wanting to work on FVWM via GSOC? I had not thought of it specifically, but I do want to apply to GSOC this year, have been programming C obsessively for 2-3 years, and using fvwm for 5-10, altho I've never contemplated the source. I'm starting a FSF internship for the spring (until the end of April) and am fairly busy at the moment, but I will have a look at the TODO list and get back to you early next week. If there's something I'm capable of, I will probably be interested. Well, I am no where near coming up with a list of proposals, so I wouldn't get too enamoured with the TODO list. It's still very early days, but I'll keep your name on my list. This wasn't an invitation to reply off-list, either. Do pleas check in future. -- Thomas Adam -- It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head. -- Hush The Warmth, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.
Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:16:38 + Thomas Adam thomas.ada...@gmail.com sent this information: I am of course offering mentoring services and/or main point of contact if no one else has any objections to either of that, of course. I know from working on other projects who've been able to garner GSOC support just how much time it places on mentors -- so whilst I am very willing to do this, I don't want to waste my time either if no one is interested. -- Thomas Adam What a great opportunity. I wish I knew even the smallest thing about writing code, then I'd give it a larrup. Though time might be a problem. Forget the stipend, just the learning experience would be invaluable. I hope that someone sees and grasps this chance to learn something, and pass it on. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 . Men are born to succeed, not to fail. ...Henry David Thoreau . Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic
