Re: fvwm for Fedora
Hi, Thanks again for responding to my e-mail! On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:06:49 + Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:18:14PM -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hi, I have been looking at the fvwm RPM for fedora and i noticed that the following patches are in there: fvwm-0005-Explicitly-link-against-fontconfig.patch This has long since been fixed in 2.6.X, AFAIK. fvwm-2.5.21-menu-generate.patch Redundant with fvwm-menu-desktop, although work is underway to improve it. fvwm-2.5.30-mimeopen.patch fvwm-2.5.30-more-mouse-buttons.patch fvwm-2.5.30-xdg-open.patch For these, see: http://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02776.html There is also the following: fvwm-xdg-menu.py Redundant? From looking at the archives, it is not clear to me if the last one should be included/excluded? Are any of the above no longer necessary for fvwm-2.6.4? See above. Separately, I also was wondering: do any of these patches conflict with the following more commonly used patches (for Gentoo/ArchLinux)? No. They're not supported. Finally, does anyone here know what is going on wrt Fedora's fvwm? Bugzilla requests there do not seem to have been even checked out for months, sometimes years, and it is not clear whether the WM has any support or not. I'm hoping Jason Tibbitts will respond as he knows a little about what Fedora do, but as far as I am concerned, I only work with what's posted here, upstream. Hence, if you don't report bugs, they won't get fixed. -- Thomas Adam So, I just wanted to be sure: none of the above-mentioned packages are of much use anymore, is that correct? Also, are any of the patches in the ArchLinux/Gentoo builds already included/proposed to be so in fvwm? I wanted to put together a local RPM for fvwm, and I therefore wanted to know. Does Jason Tibbitts have involvement with the Fedora RPM? From what I see there, it appears to be maintained by someone called Peter Lemenkov: however, there has been very little action there for a long time? Many thanks and best wishes, Ranjan
Re: FVWM: Various notes on my experience with FVWM
Hi, On 2012-03-18 21:29:14+, Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 04:40:14PM +0100, Mathieu Bonnet wrote: Style Root NeverFocus? You can't focus the root window. Do you mean MouseFocus? Oops sorry, dunno what I was thinking. I meant on the contrary some sort of pseudo-focus for the root window... I want to be able to unfocus windows by clicking on the root window, for example to avoid any keyboard input in program windows... If not a precise option (and I understand it should be an option, so we can have other mouse shortcuts on the root window without removing the focus from the currently focused window), the possibility to use something like: Mouse 1 R A Focus Currently, it apparently changes to a mode to select a window to focus, probably a generic behavior when using window commands without clicking an actual program window (the focused window does not receive keyboard input anymore, the cursor changes to a cross, clicking a program window gives it focus, or clicking on root window again simply get us back to the beginning, with the focus on the window which had focus before clicking the root window, so it's only half the solution). This while using ClickToFocus. I don't want to use MouseFocus (not even just on the root window if it was possible). In FvwmButtons manual of FVWM 2.6.4: *FvwmButtons: Colorset colorset Tells the module to use colorset colorset for the window background. Refer to the FvwmTheme man page for details about colorsets. How is this unclear? I don't like the reference to FvwmTheme, but... I was saying, and I quoted it, that the manual present this option as only setting the background style (well, technically, it does not say only, but it's obviously confusing), meaning we would have to use the Fore option to set the foreground style, defeating the centralization purpose of the Colorset option. You replied the Colorset option does work for both the background and foreground (technically you didn't, but I suppose that's was you meant), and I replied by quoting the manual. If it does work, then the mention to the background, in the quoted passage, should be removed, or, for even more clarity, it should enumerate everything it applies to, that is, in this case, background and foreground styles. Bye. -- Mathieu Bonnet math...@kawagama.net
Re: FVWM: Various notes on my experience with FVWM
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 02:40:55PM +0100, Mathieu Bonnet wrote: You replied the Colorset option does work for both the background and foreground (technically you didn't, but I suppose that's was you meant), and I replied by quoting the manual. If it does work, then the mention to the background, in the quoted passage, should be removed, or, for even more clarity, it should enumerate everything it applies to, that is, Removing the word background will suffice. But as I said in my very initial reply to this thread, either you or someone else who cares enough and has the time sends me some documentation patches, or they do not get done. -- Thomas Adam -- Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong. But deep in my heart I know I am not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)
