Re: .po files of locale zh_TW

2011-04-18 Thread Wei-Lun Chao
Still not accepted in fvwm 2.6.x

 here are .po files of the locale
 zh_TW (Traditional Chinese)
 for fvwm 2.5.12





Re: .po files of locale zh_TW

2011-04-18 Thread Thomas Adam
Hello,

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 03:09:14PM +, Wei-Lun Chao wrote:
 Still not accepted in fvwm 2.6.x
 
  here are .po files of the locale
  zh_TW (Traditional Chinese)
  for fvwm 2.5.12

Can you provide more context, please?  I have no idea what you're talking
about here -- and still not accepted implies someone (not I) was aware of
this issue in the past.  But this is the first I can recall of it.

-- Thomas Adam



fvwm-2.6.0 bug(?)

2011-04-18 Thread Jim Diamond
I am running fvwm 2.6.0 on Slackware64 13.1.

When it starts up it (apparently) runs fvwm-menu-desktop, which
sends out the following complaints:

--
WARNING: '/etc/kde/xdg/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu' does not exist
Unknown 'DefaultLayout':
'HASH(0x139b0c0) 0
 Merge ARRAY(0x139b228) 0
 Merge ARRAY(0x139b2e8) 0
 Separator ARRAY(0x139b360) 0
 Menuname ARRAY(0x139b408) 0
'
Unknown 'Layout':
'HASH(0x139b4c8) 0
 Merge ARRAY(0x139b630) 0
 Menuname ARRAY(0x139b6a8) 0
 Merge ARRAY(0x13768d8) 0
'
Unknown 'Layout':
'HASH(0x13d9040) 0
 Merge ARRAY(0x13d91a8) 0
 Filename ARRAY(0x13d9220) 0
 Filename ARRAY(0x13dbba8) 0
 Separator ARRAY(0x13dbc98) 0
 Filename ARRAY(0x13dbd40) 0
 Filename ARRAY(0x13dbe30) 0
 Filename ARRAY(0x13dbf20) 0
 Merge ARRAY(0x13dc058) 0
 Separator ARRAY(0x13dc0d0) 0
 Menuname ARRAY(0x13dc178) 0
'
DestroyMenu FvwmMenu
AddToMenu FvwmMenu KDE Menu Title
--

I don't see anything in my configuration which is asking fvwm to call
this program.

Should I be getting this without asking for it, or am I doing
something wrong.  (If the latter, my apologies for the noise.)

Thanks.
Jim



Re: fvwm-2.6.0 bug(?)

2011-04-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 02:14:38PM -0300, Jim Diamond wrote:
 I am running fvwm 2.6.0 on Slackware64 13.1.
 
 When it starts up it (apparently) runs fvwm-menu-desktop, which
 sends out the following complaints:
 
 --
 WARNING: '/etc/kde/xdg/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu' does not exist
 Unknown 'DefaultLayout':
 'HASH(0x139b0c0) 0
  Merge ARRAY(0x139b228) 0
  Merge ARRAY(0x139b2e8) 0
  Separator ARRAY(0x139b360) 0
  Menuname ARRAY(0x139b408) 0
 '
 Unknown 'Layout':
 'HASH(0x139b4c8) 0
  Merge ARRAY(0x139b630) 0
  Menuname ARRAY(0x139b6a8) 0
  Merge ARRAY(0x13768d8) 0
 '
 Unknown 'Layout':
 'HASH(0x13d9040) 0
  Merge ARRAY(0x13d91a8) 0
  Filename ARRAY(0x13d9220) 0
  Filename ARRAY(0x13dbba8) 0
  Separator ARRAY(0x13dbc98) 0
  Filename ARRAY(0x13dbd40) 0
  Filename ARRAY(0x13dbe30) 0
  Filename ARRAY(0x13dbf20) 0
  Merge ARRAY(0x13dc058) 0
  Separator ARRAY(0x13dc0d0) 0
  Menuname ARRAY(0x13dc178) 0
 '
 DestroyMenu FvwmMenu
 AddToMenu FvwmMenu KDE Menu Title
 --
 
 I don't see anything in my configuration which is asking fvwm to call
 this program.
 
 Should I be getting this without asking for it, or am I doing
 something wrong.  (If the latter, my apologies for the noise.)

It's coming from fvwm-menu-desktop which is called from fvwm.c in liey of no
config found, *or* your config doesn't override the builtin menu.

I am not too surprised to see the above, but I don't have the environment
installed to reproduce it, as that would mean KDE being installed.  The
error comes from interpret_menu() -- which it will then spit out the above
as a last resort.

Probably nothing to worry about, it's just this script is perhaps overly
chatty.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: fvwm-2.6.0 bug(?)

2011-04-18 Thread despen
Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 02:14:38PM -0300, Jim Diamond wrote:
 I am running fvwm 2.6.0 on Slackware64 13.1.
 
 When it starts up it (apparently) runs fvwm-menu-desktop, which
 sends out the following complaints:
 
 --
 WARNING: '/etc/kde/xdg/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu' does not exist
 Unknown 'DefaultLayout':
 '
 DestroyMenu FvwmMenu
 AddToMenu FvwmMenu KDE Menu Title
 --
 
 I don't see anything in my configuration which is asking fvwm to call
 this program.
 
 Should I be getting this without asking for it, or am I doing
 something wrong.  (If the latter, my apologies for the noise.)

 It's coming from fvwm-menu-desktop which is called from fvwm.c in liey of no
 config found, *or* your config doesn't override the builtin menu.

There's no way to override the creation of the built in menu.
There probably should be.

Is there a way to defer creation of the menu until it is invoked?

 I am not too surprised to see the above, but I don't have the environment
 installed to reproduce it, as that would mean KDE being installed.  The
 error comes from interpret_menu() -- which it will then spit out the above
 as a last resort.

 Probably nothing to worry about, it's just this script is perhaps overly
 chatty.

I think it's a bug in the kde config files.
We should probably change the menu generation code to be quiet about it
unless a debug or verbose flag is on.

I can do that if you like...



Re: fvwm-2.6.0 bug(?)

2011-04-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 01:46:22PM -0400, des...@verizon.net wrote:
 Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:
 
  On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 02:14:38PM -0300, Jim Diamond wrote:
  I am running fvwm 2.6.0 on Slackware64 13.1.
  
  When it starts up it (apparently) runs fvwm-menu-desktop, which
  sends out the following complaints:
  
  --
  WARNING: '/etc/kde/xdg/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu' does not exist
  Unknown 'DefaultLayout':
  '
  DestroyMenu FvwmMenu
  AddToMenu FvwmMenu KDE Menu Title
  --
  
  I don't see anything in my configuration which is asking fvwm to call
  this program.
  
  Should I be getting this without asking for it, or am I doing
  something wrong.  (If the latter, my apologies for the noise.)
 
  It's coming from fvwm-menu-desktop which is called from fvwm.c in liey of no
  config found, *or* your config doesn't override the builtin menu.
 
 There's no way to override the creation of the built in menu.
 There probably should be.

I meant in terms of recreating FvwmRootMenu, although that's done after the
fact by the time the user's config is read in.

 Is there a way to defer creation of the menu until it is invoked?

Yes -- this is what MissingSubMenuFunction is for.

  I am not too surprised to see the above, but I don't have the environment
  installed to reproduce it, as that would mean KDE being installed.  The
  error comes from interpret_menu() -- which it will then spit out the above
  as a last resort.
 
  Probably nothing to worry about, it's just this script is perhaps overly
  chatty.
 
 I think it's a bug in the kde config files.
 We should probably change the menu generation code to be quiet about it
 unless a debug or verbose flag is on.
 
 I can do that if you like...

Yes please.  Just umm, not another 2.6.2 release just yet though.  :)

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: .po files of locale zh_TW

2011-04-18 Thread Viktor Griph
2011/4/18 Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org:
 Hello,

 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 03:09:14PM +, Wei-Lun Chao wrote:
 Still not accepted in fvwm 2.6.x

  here are .po files of the locale
  zh_TW (Traditional Chinese)
  for fvwm 2.5.12

 Can you provide more context, please?  I have no idea what you're talking
 about here -- and still not accepted implies someone (not I) was aware of
 this issue in the past.  But this is the first I can recall of it.


The file was sent directly to me and Dominik at a time where I myself
at least was very busy, and I didn't notice it was not directed to
fvwm-workers until last year, when I replied and asked for the files
to be resent to fvwm-workers.

/Viktor



Re: fvwm-2.6.0 bug(?)

2011-04-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:10:19PM +0400, Sergey Vlasov wrote:
 actual user configuration.  But there should not be many existing
 configs which depend on the builtin FvwmMenu definition (this feature

There are -- but it won't affect anyone.

 was added just before the 2.6.0 release), and adding explicit

Yes, I know.  :P

 PipeRead 'fvwm-menu-desktop --enable-mini-icons --fvwm-icons' to a
 custom ~/.fvwm/config will fix the problem (and will be required
 anyway if some customization of fvwm-menu-desktop options is desired).

It's all moot if the default menu is destroyed, which in most cases it is,
and if not, well they get the above menu for free.

This change looks OK, although I don't thin we should add
--enable-mini-icons --fvwm-icons just because; it wasn't there before, and
I see no value of adding it in either, as it fixes nothing.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: fvwm-2.6.0 bug(?)

2011-04-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 07:36:06PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
 This change looks OK, although I don't thin we should add
 --enable-mini-icons --fvwm-icons just because; it wasn't there before, and
 I see no value of adding it in either, as it fixes nothing.

My apologies -- I completely misread the change.  :)

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: fvwm-2.6.0 bug(?)

2011-04-18 Thread despen
Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 01:46:22PM -0400, des...@verizon.net wrote:
 Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:
 
  On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 02:14:38PM -0300, Jim Diamond wrote:
 Is there a way to defer creation of the menu until it is invoked?

 Yes -- this is what MissingSubMenuFunction is for.

Aha!

No wonder I couldn't find it.
IMO, it's not really documented.
All the man page has is examples.

That keyword is used in place of a menu-name and triggers
a special function.

Thanks

Hope to get some of this done tonight.



Re: fvwm-2.6.0 bug(?)

2011-04-18 Thread Thomas Adam
Hi,

On 19 April 2011 02:50,  des...@verizon.net wrote:
 Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 01:46:22PM -0400, des...@verizon.net wrote:
 Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

  On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 02:14:38PM -0300, Jim Diamond wrote:
 Is there a way to defer creation of the menu until it is invoked?

 Yes -- this is what MissingSubMenuFunction is for.

 Aha!

 No wonder I couldn't find it.
 IMO, it's not really documented.
 All the man page has is examples.

I'll add it to my TODO list.  :)

 That keyword is used in place of a menu-name and triggers
 a special function.

 Thanks

 Hope to get some of this done tonight.

There's no rush.  :)  It's not like we're about to release a stable
version or anything.  :)

-- Thomas ADam



Re: fvwm-2.6.0 bug(?)

2011-04-18 Thread despen
Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

 Hi,

 On 19 April 2011 02:50,  des...@verizon.net wrote:
 Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 01:46:22PM -0400, des...@verizon.net wrote:
 Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

  On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 02:14:38PM -0300, Jim Diamond wrote:
 Is there a way to defer creation of the menu until it is invoked?

 Yes -- this is what MissingSubMenuFunction is for.

 Aha!

 No wonder I couldn't find it.
 IMO, it's not really documented.
 All the man page has is examples.

 I'll add it to my TODO list.  :)

Didn't mean to put this on you,
just seeking comments.

 That keyword is used in place of a menu-name and triggers
 a special function.

 Thanks

 Hope to get some of this done tonight.

 There's no rush.  :)  It's not like we're about to release a stable
 version or anything.  :)

stable ≠ perfect

:)

I'm not seeing email on the fix for delayed menu building.
I don't think I'll deal with the warning/error message until tomorrow.
Getting late.