Re: Google Summer Of Code 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Viktor Griph
2010/3/7 Thomas Adam tho...@xteddy.org:
 The poignant things any prospective mentors are going to need to know
 [3] are covered in question 2 -- which I am happy to fill out, but note
 that this won't and cannot get off the ground without a *backup* mentor.
 That's critical, and one of the failings from last year's proposal.

 So -- anyone from fvwm-workers wanting to step up to that?  To be clear
 again -- I am offering to be main point of contact, etc., etc., the role
 of a backup mentor is to supplement my role should I die, or have no
 Internet access, etc.  Hopefully something unlikely!


I could probably serve as a backup mentor, but I will be on vacation
sometime this summer (I'm not sure of the timeline currently), at
which point I would not be able to step in as a mentor, should the
needs appear.

/Viktor



Re: Google Summer Of Code 2010

2010-03-08 Thread despen
Viktor Griph vik...@griph.se writes:

 2010/3/7 Thomas Adam tho...@xteddy.org:
 The poignant things any prospective mentors are going to need to know
 [3] are covered in question 2 -- which I am happy to fill out, but note
 that this won't and cannot get off the ground without a *backup* mentor.
 That's critical, and one of the failings from last year's proposal.

 So -- anyone from fvwm-workers wanting to step up to that?  To be clear
 again -- I am offering to be main point of contact, etc., etc., the role
 of a backup mentor is to supplement my role should I die, or have no
 Internet access, etc.  Hopefully something unlikely!


 I could probably serve as a backup mentor, but I will be on vacation
 sometime this summer (I'm not sure of the timeline currently), at
 which point I would not be able to step in as a mentor, should the
 needs appear.

I'm not ready to volunteer, but the normal way fvwm developers seek
help is through the Fvwm-workers mailing list.

That doesn't need to change in this case.



Re: Google Summer Of Code 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:56:16AM +0100, Viktor Griph wrote:
 2010/3/7 Thomas Adam tho...@xteddy.org:
  The poignant things any prospective mentors are going to need to know
  [3] are covered in question 2 -- which I am happy to fill out, but note
  that this won't and cannot get off the ground without a *backup* mentor.
  That's critical, and one of the failings from last year's proposal.
 
  So -- anyone from fvwm-workers wanting to step up to that? ?To be clear
  again -- I am offering to be main point of contact, etc., etc., the role
  of a backup mentor is to supplement my role should I die, or have no
  Internet access, etc. ?Hopefully something unlikely!
 
 
 I could probably serve as a backup mentor, but I will be on vacation
 sometime this summer (I'm not sure of the timeline currently), at
 which point I would not be able to step in as a mentor, should the
 needs appear.

That's fine, Viktor -- things like that are pretty much expected.  It's more
a case of covering our bases than it is an active role.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head.
-- Hush The Warmth, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.



Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 05:07:00PM -0500, des...@verizon.net wrote:
 Viktor Griph vik...@griph.se writes:
 
  2010/3/7 Thomas Adam tho...@xteddy.org:
  The poignant things any prospective mentors are going to need to know
  [3] are covered in question 2 -- which I am happy to fill out, but note
  that this won't and cannot get off the ground without a *backup* mentor.
  That's critical, and one of the failings from last year's proposal.
 
  So -- anyone from fvwm-workers wanting to step up to that? ?To be clear
  again -- I am offering to be main point of contact, etc., etc., the role
  of a backup mentor is to supplement my role should I die, or have no
  Internet access, etc. ?Hopefully something unlikely!
 
 
  I could probably serve as a backup mentor, but I will be on vacation
  sometime this summer (I'm not sure of the timeline currently), at
  which point I would not be able to step in as a mentor, should the
  needs appear.
 
 I'm not ready to volunteer, but the normal way fvwm developers seek
 help is through the Fvwm-workers mailing list.
 
 That doesn't need to change in this case.

Perhaps, but on larger projects (as I have seen working on Git, for
instance) some applicants prefer the one-to-one approach when developing a
given feature for GSOC.

I see no reason to discourage that approach if it's more appropriate for
*them* -- and my role is to always keep fvwm-workers@ fully informed, etc.,
as I am sure most people might have assumed anyway.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head.
-- Hush The Warmth, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.



Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010

2010-03-07 Thread Thomas Adam
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:16:38PM +, Thomas Adam wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 So I am going to raise this now, unlike last year where we only had a few
 days to come up with something.
 
 Is there anyone here who's thinking of wanting to work on FVWM via GSOC?  At
 this stage, I am not interested in gathering ideas (the TODO file is
 sufficient for this, as well as the original thread from last year [1]),
 other than to see how viable it is at this stage.
 
 I am of course offering mentoring services and/or main point of contact if
 no one else has any objections to either of that, of course.  I know from
 working on other projects who've been able to garner GSOC support just how
 much time it places on mentors -- so whilst I am very willing to do this, I
 don't want to waste my time either if no one is interested.

The ball needs to start rolling on this then.

The timeline for the entire thing [0] is pretty clear.  End of next week is
the deadline for us, as a mentoring organisation to submit applications.
This will include a list of tasks, we think, a student could potentially
work on.

To that end, I would like anyone with a passing interest to do that --
regardless of how stupid an idea might sound, I can easily sieve those
ones which are either way outside of FVWM's remit, or those which are just
too lengthy, etc.  (I am assuming people are going to be screaming
COMPOSITE at me, and I have an equally witty phrase I can come back with
on that.  :P)

Thankfully now that we have the wiki, we can host any GSOC-related
information there [1] -- without the need to give people CVS access to
update some static webpage on fvwm.org (which was always an insane
suggestion anyway.)  In fact, to that end the page [2] has been created.

The poignant things any prospective mentors are going to need to know
[3] are covered in question 2 -- which I am happy to fill out, but note
that this won't and cannot get off the ground without a *backup* mentor.
That's critical, and one of the failings from last year's proposal.

So -- anyone from fvwm-workers wanting to step up to that?  To be clear
again -- I am offering to be main point of contact, etc., etc., the role
of a backup mentor is to supplement my role should I die, or have no
Internet access, etc.  Hopefully something unlikely!

I appreciate the timing *couldn't* be worse for next week as I won't be
around - so it looks like I will have to coordinate this from public
libraries, Internet cafes, lunch breaks at work, etc., etc.

Sorry about that, but I will do my best!

TIA,

-- Thomas Adam

[0]  
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline
[1]  http://fvwmwiki.xteddy.org
[2]  http://fvwmwiki.xteddy.org/GSOC/2010/
[3]  
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#applying

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It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head.
-- Hush The Warmth, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.



Re: FVWM: Google Summer Of Code 2010

2010-01-29 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:16:38 + Thomas Adam
thomas.ada...@gmail.com sent this information:


I am of course offering mentoring services and/or main point of
contact if no one else has any objections to either of that, of
course.  I know from working on other projects who've been able to
garner GSOC support just how much time it places on mentors -- so
whilst I am very willing to do this, I don't want to waste my time
either if no one is interested.

-- Thomas Adam

What a great opportunity. I wish I knew even the smallest thing about
writing code, then I'd give it a larrup. Though time might be a
problem. Forget the stipend, just the learning experience would be
invaluable. I hope that someone sees and grasps this chance to learn
something, and pass it on.

Charlie
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