Re: [Megillot] The Rise of the Pharisees in Qumran texts

2006-09-26 Thread RUSSELLGMIRKIN




Greg,

Good to see someone who engages on details. Here is the rabbinical 
data with a critical discussion.

m Abot 1.1-4 reads, "(1) Moses received the Torah from Sinai and handed it 
on to Joshua, Joshua to the Elders, the Elders to the Prophets; and the Prophets 
handed it on to the men of the Great Assembly.(2) Simeon the Just was of 
the remnants of the Great Assembly. (3) Antigonus of Sokho received from Simeon 
the Just. (4) Yose b Yo'ezer of Seredah and Yose b Yohanan of Jerusalem received 
from them [sic]."

Critical notes. Simeon the Just is identified (in several studies) 
with Simeon II (c. 200- c. 180 BCE), father of Onias III. M. Hag. 2.2 and 
b. Shab. 14b omit (1)-(3) and there is an argument to be made that the chain of 
Pharisee tradition begins with (4). Yose b Yo'ezer of Seredah and Yose b 
Yohanan of Jerusalem are uncontroversially dated to the 160s BCE, working back 
from the later sequence of "pairs" and based on the halachah of Yose b. Yo'ezer 
which reflects circumstances of that period. The phrase "received from 
them" in (4) is problematic, since the preceding entry in (3) is a single 
individual Antigonus of Socho. This has been explained in 3 ways. 
(a) "Them" refers to both Simeon and Antigonus (doubtful). (b) "Them" 
refers to an earlier pair that has dropped from the list (possible). (c) 
Neusner's suggestion, "them" refers to the men of the Great Assembly, and 
(2)-(3) are interpolations (possible).

From the rabbinical data, we may take it as certain that the Pharisees 
emerged at least as early as the Maccabean War (terminus ad quem) and after the 
time of Simeon the Just (terminus a quo), here supplementing the shaky 
rabbinical tradition with the testimony of b. Sirach (c. 180 BCE), which 
completely lacks inner-Jewish polemics (except perhaps against the Enoch 
literature) or reference to sects and which prominently mentions Simeon the 
Just. We may thus place the rise of the Pharisees in c. 180-165 BCE. 
The mention of Antigonus of Socho as a Pharisee leader supports a date in the 
generation before (4). Note that Talmudic tradition claimed the Sadducees 
were founded by two of his disciples, Sadoq and Boethus, further 
suggestingthe schism with the Sadducees took place in his time.

There are several indications that the first generation of Pharisees were 
linked to the Hellenists. A major indicator is the application of "smooth 
things" language to those Jews who collaborated with Antiochus IV in Dan. 
11. Another is the Greek name of Antigonus of Socho (the first such in 
rabbinical literature). A third indicator is the Talmudic anecdote at Gen. 
R. 65:27 in which Yakim (thought by many,though not by Neusner, to be 
Alcimus) mocked his uncle Yose b. Yo'ezer of Seredah as the latter was being 
taken to be crucified. Yose b. Yo'ezer was noted for his anti-Gentile 
halachah and it has been suggested that he was among the Hasidim envoys 
crucified by Bacchides and Alcimus reported in Maccabees. This suggests a 
rift between Hellenizing Pharisees such as Alcimus and other Pharisees 
supporting the Maccabees such as Yose b. Yo'ezer. The Pharisees who 
participated in the uprising likely repudiated the Hellenizing faction of 
Pharisees. One such individual was certainly Menelaus, who was certainly a 
collaborator with Antiochus IV, and was included in the "smooth things" language 
of Daniel. That Menelaus was succeeded by Alcimus, likely the nephew of 
the Pharisee leader Yose b. Yo'ezer, tends to support his being in the 
(repudiated Hellenist) Pharisee camp, and if Menelaus then his brother Simon the 
temple captain also, who was also famous as a collaborating traitor per 
Maccabees. (This answers your question why these individuals are not 
claimed in Pharisee tradition.)

The purely historical case in favor of Simon the temple captain and 
Menelaus having been involved in the Pharisee schism is that (1) the time is 
what we would expect from rabbinical tradition + Sirach; (2) the "smooth things" 
language in Dan. 11 applicable foremost specifically to Menelaus; (3) their 
opposition to and eventual overthrow of the Oniad dynasty marks them as 
anti-Sadducees and presents a prima facie case for a schism with the Sadducee 
temple; (4) the alternative is that the Pharisee schism left no trace in 
historical sources, which seems highly implausible given the magnitude of this 
event.

These foundational arguments are based purely on rabbinical, historical, 
and biblical data. Turning to the Qumran scrolls, I previously summarized 
references that associate the Man of Lies with the rise of the Seekers of Smooth 
Things. The Qumran data regarding the Teacher of Righteousness, Man of 
Lies, and Wicked Priest systematically conform to what 2 Maccabees tells us 
about Onias III, Simon the temple captain, Menelaus, and the events involving 
these three individuals. This convergent data leads to the interesting 
conclusion that the scrolls bear contemporary witness to the 

[Megillot] The Rise of the Pharisees in Qumran texts; TR

2006-09-25 Thread GREG Doudna


Russell,

I have been reading your scenario carefully and fail to follow
you on two points:

a) you cite the Onias III/Menalaus/Simon conflicts of I/II Macc.
and say this suggests the Pharisees started in this context,
first generation post-Simon II. However nothing in rabbinical tradition 
alludes

to that dating directly. I am guessing your argument is that because
a high priest (Simon II) is named, and then the other figures are not
high priests, that that is when the Pharisees departed from the temple
high priest as their leader? But then you seem to have the Pharisees
favoring Simon the temple captain (and Menalaus?),
who do control the temple? I don't follow your logic here.
And even more importantly,

b) you seem to imply that Menalaeus and Simon the temple captain
were Pharisee leaders, the first Pharisee leaders when splitting from
the Sadducees. But why then are Menalaeus and Simon the temple
captain never mentioned favorably by the rabbis--when they are
claiming names from this very time frame? Do you have a
good explanation for this silence?

As you know, I argue in agreement with Michael Wise's 1st century BCE
setting for the major figures of the pesharim, though differing with Wise
on the identifications of the figures.

In my article in the 2005 Lemche Festschrift I give four possible sets
of identifications for TR, WP, Liar, and Lion of Wrath. In all four sets the 
TR

is Hyrcanus II, and in all four sets the figure Manasseh of pNah is
the same as the Liar of pHab/pPs/CD.


1) TR = Hyrcanus II. WP = Aristobulus II. Liar = Aristobulus II.
LW = Pompey.

2) TR = Hyrcanus II. WP = Antigonus Mattathias. Liar = Antigonus Mattathias.
LW = Mark Antony

3) TR = Hyrcanus II. WP = Antigonus Mattathias. Liar = Herod.
LW = Mark Antony

4) TR = Hyrcanus II. WP = Antigonus Mattathias. Liar = Herod.
LW = Octavian

Although in my 2001 4Q Pesher Nahum I argued for #1, in my
later Lemche Festschrift article I gave arguments that could be raised in
favor of #2, #3, and #4.

The connection between the Liar and the SST/Pharisees would
be especially well explained in #3 or #4 with Herod being pivotal
in the Pharisees.

Hyrcanus II makes an excellent TR for the following basic reasons:
(a) extensive argument that the TR was an ex-high priest
(b) TR as an ex-high priest in exile, with partisans
(c) TR as opposed to WP/Liar figures in power.
(d) TR as somehow related to those who composed some of the
Qumran texts, collected them all, and deposited them at the
site of Qumran which, it follows, they must have controlled.

Hyrcanus II fits all of these characteristics admirably, particularly
d, control of the site of Qumran, in the wake of argument
placing Qumran as an extension of the high priest's estate at
Jericho. Even Shani Berrin, defender of the traditional views on
pNah in most cases, has Hyrcanus II as opposed by Pharisees
toward the end of his life.

As for the pesharim and related texts and key figures therein being
1st BCE rather than 2nd BCE, there are these key points:

a) As Wise argued in his JBL article, you have most of the text
copies, and most of the sectarian text compositions being
1st BCE. All the action is 1st BCE. 2nd BCE gets alluded to
a few times in passing--Antiochus in pNah and of course
Antiochus in Daniel, but Daniel is one of the *past* prophets'
texts by the time of the Qumran sectarian texts.

b) why are pesharim which were essentially real-time
prophesy or oracles which quickly became obsolete by
circumstances, preserved in *single copies* a century later,
with apparently no other pre-history or post-history to
these texts? Granted, scenarios could be devised to
account for later copies of 2nd BCE compositions, but
it just is more economical to place the text compositions
in 1st BCE too.

c) The sobriquet-bearing figures in the pesharim as
contemporary to those texts' authors, i.e. the implied
present of the text is the actual present of the authors
of those texts, is just basic. On this the majority of today's
Qumran scholarship is, sorry, just out to lunch, for not seeing this.
Some of the earlier scholars, Carmignac and van der Ploeg
and a few others, got this right.

d) In Pesher Nahum the figure of Manasseh is said to
have a kingly reign, MLKWTW, his reign, which alludes to kingship,
which suggests 1st BCE when kings were reestablished,
and is an argument against pNah, and by extension the
other pesharim, being 2nd BCE before there were kings.

e) In CD the Liar appears associated with themes of
anti-niece marriage. This was one of Eisenman's early
arguments for an anti-Herod theme in the scrolls. Although
his 1st CE datings of scroll allusions are unconvincing
(because there were not even any copies of Qumran texts
in the caves copied as late as 1st CE, is why there are
no 1st CE allusions at all) ... his point on the anti-niece
polemic in CD could fit well with an anti-Herod the Great
polemic in agreement with scenarios #3 or #4 in my
list above.

The biggest change in 

Re: [Megillot] The Rise of the Pharisees in Qumran texts

2006-09-24 Thread RUSSELLGMIRKIN




Slight typo:
4QMMT is IMO best interpreted as an appeal by the Sadducees for the 
  Maccabeans (Hasidim) _NOT_ to adopt Pharisee practices in the newly dedicated 
  temple of 164 BCE.

Russell Gmirkin